Issue 248 in piccolo2d: hosting piccolo2d.org

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CC: heue...@gmail.com, willismo...@gmail.com, allain.lalonde
Labels: Priority-Medium Type-Other Effort-Low Component-Website Usability

New issue 248 by mr0...@mro.name: hosting piccolo2d.org
http://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

Will has been generously donating piccolo2d.org hosting (plus .net
and .com) for ~5 years now and wants to step back.

As I think the piccolo2d.org is a good landing page IMO we should keep it.

The current website requires a webserver serving static files. The server
runs a cronjob doing svn updates every 4h.
No php/db/etc. needed. See
https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/wiki/WebSiteHowTo#Deployment

Alternative: simply redirect http://piccolo2d.org/ to
https://piccolo2d.googlecode.com/svn/site/index.html

What do you guys think?

Anybody stepping forward to host it? Renewal will be due 2014-06-14.


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Comment #1 on issue 248 by heue...@gmail.com: hosting piccolo2d.org
http://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

If I remember correctly we wanted to host piccolo2d.org site content from
google code svn but either checking it all into svn was too slow and/or
there wasn't enough space available from google code for the repository to
allow it.

The fact that the site is available at

https://piccolo2d.googlecode.com/svn/site/learn/index.html

is new to me (or perhaps I have forgotten); why not just implement the
redirect?

[picc...@googlecode.com]

Comment #2 on issue 248 by mr0...@mro.name: hosting piccolo2d.org
http://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

there's 3 (maybe minor) downsides to the redirect

- lengthy urls in the address bar when browsing piccolo2d.org,
- directory links don't resolve to index.html but list the directory,
- no more 'staging' area ;-)

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Comment #4 on issue 248 by erwin.mu...@gmail.com: hosting piccolo2d.org
http://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

Hello,
I was using Piccolo2D in some of my private projects and currently I'm
working on a commercial software that will use Piccolo2D to show a simple
graphical scene.

I have a Linux VSP on linode.com in London, that is currently serving two
web sites.
- www.anr-institute.com
- www.mueller-public.de

I would be willing to pay for the piccolo2d.org domain and setup the
documentation of piccolo2d on my server.

Are you willing to update the Piccolo2D documentation on
piccolo2d.org/index.html ?
Or are you going to use code.google.com Wiki for the documentation?
Do you want to change the documentation to a Wiki (like Mediawiki) or do
you want to continue to use static HTML files?

Regards, Erwin.

[picc...@googlecode.com]

Updates:
Status: Accepted
Labels: -Type-Other -Effort-Low Type-Task Effort-Medium Priority-Critical

Comment #5 on issue 248 by heue...@gmail.com: hosting piccolo2d.org
http://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

Hello Erwin,

Sorry for not following up on this sooner. If you are still willing to
host the documentation, the Piccolo2D project would be happy to take you up
on your offer.

Unfortunately I don't actually know the details of how the rsync was set
up, I just committed documentation to the svn repository and it showed up
on www.piccolo2d.org. This wiki page is the best we have to go on

https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/wiki/WebSiteHowTo#Deployment

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Comment #6 on issue 248 by mr0...@mro.name: hosting piccolo2d.org
http://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

There just never was a rsync.

However, as mentioned on
https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/wiki/WebSiteHowTo#Deployment, a cron
job running on the webserver doing a svn update every 4h.

Does the description on the wiki page need clarification?

The piccolo2d.org served as a landing page with all the infrequently
changing content and pointed here (google code) for all 'dynamic' stuff -
code, wiki, issues, tarballs.

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Comment #7 on issue 248 by mr0...@mro.name: hosting piccolo2d.org
https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

piccolo2d.org went to japan on september 6th:

Domain Name:PICCOLO2D.ORG
Domain ID: D173857600-LROR
Creation Date: 2014-09-06T14:30:16Z
Updated Date: 2014-09-15T10:55:34Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2015-09-06T14:30:16Z
Sponsoring Registrar:UDomainName.com LLC (R1571-LROR)
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 931
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited
Registrant ID:a9n8gb68okr6drgv
Registrant Name:Naohiro Arita
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: Kouhoku-ku Shinyokohama 2-15-10 5F CIMALINK
Registrant City:Yokohama-shi
Registrant State/Province:KANAGAWA-KEN
Registrant Postal Code:2220033
Registrant Country:JP
Registrant Phone:+81.08012594885
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:arim...@hotmail.com
Admin ID:a9n8gb68okr6drgv
Admin Name:Naohiro Arita
Admin Organization:
Admin Street: Kouhoku-ku Shinyokohama 2-15-10 5F CIMALINK
Admin City:Yokohama-shi
Admin State/Province:KANAGAWA-KEN
Admin Postal Code:2220033
Admin Country:JP
Admin Phone:+81.08012594885
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:arim...@hotmail.com
Tech ID:a9n8gb68okr6drgv
Tech Name:Naohiro Arita
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: Kouhoku-ku Shinyokohama 2-15-10 5F CIMALINK
Tech City:Yokohama-shi
Tech State/Province:KANAGAWA-KEN
Tech Postal Code:2220033
Tech Country:JP
Tech Phone:+81.08012594885
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:arim...@hotmail.com

Kinda sad.

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Comment #9 on issue 248 by heue...@gmail.com: hosting piccolo2d.org
https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

I'm afraid WontFix applies across the board at this point.

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Comment #10 on issue 248 by mr0...@mro.name: hosting piccolo2d.org
https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

P.S.: piccolo2d.net went to a domain grabber in switzerland who wants to
press USD 900 and piccolo2d.com went to China.

As they're all gone (forever and due to lack of care, I may add) I set up
an unofficial mirror on a subdomain of mine at http://piccolo2d.mro.name.
The procedure of updating remains as it ever was.

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Comment #11 on issue 248 by mr0...@mro.name: hosting piccolo2d.org
https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

P.P.S.: I changed some of the references to .org now pointing to .mro.name.
See r1264 and r1265 and 'Links' in the 'Administer' section.

However, please consider http://piccolo2d.mro.name a mere emergency refuge
so as we have a location to point to at all. I don't claim ownership nor do
I promise long-term hosting.

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Comment #12 on issue 248 by heue...@gmail.com: hosting piccolo2d.org
https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

@mr0738 thank you for stepping up with a workaround.

[picc...@googlecode.com]

Updates:
Status: Started
Owner: mr0...@mro.name

Comment #13 on issue 248 by mr0...@mro.name: hosting piccolo2d.org
https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

I see very little publishing activity by the new owner of
http://piccolo2d.org.

Maybe it's worth while to contact him and tell him about our grief having
lost the domain and kindly ask him to - if he ever wants to get rid of it -
consider handing it over to one of us in case.

What do you guys think? And if so, anybody who could help translate to
japanese? Or polish the english version?

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Comment #14 on issue 248 by heue...@gmail.com: hosting piccolo2d.org
https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/issues/detail?id=248

Sounds good to me; I'll start an email thread.