Grand piano lag screws for legs

[richa...@comcast.net]

If anyone has any to spare I would be happy to purchase them. too many movers losing screws! this is driving me crazy. you can contact me off list thanks

Rick Ucci
Uccipiano.com
609-677-0444

[Joseph Garrett]

Richard,
There are so many variations on that theme, I'll need some specs.<G> i.e. there are large screws, (usually F.H.), that anchor legs/lyres. Most are in the #20 - #24 size. Those I have. There are actual Threaded Bolts with various threads. Those I have a few...like Chickering stuff.<G> There are Lag Screws that are similar, (if not identical), to plate screws. I have lots of those.
Best,
Joe


Captain of the Tool Police
Squares R I
gpianoworks.com

[Greg Newell]

We, on these lists, are quick to blame movers for a lot of things. I would suggest, just for giggles, that some of you take a walk in our shoes for once. Pianos we encounter from time to time are often held together seemingly with duct tape and rubber bands. Screws fall out and are swept away. A well meaning "technician" or piano owner will jamb some lag screw ridiculously and improperly sized for the task in any direction that you want to name, i.e. short, fat, long, skinny, wrong thread, etc. It is universally blamed on the mover who like the skilled techs out there have to somehow deal with what's in front of them. I've moved pianos and refused to set them back on legs at the destination because they were unsafe. Screw holes buggered up do not require longer or larger screws, they require proper repair! But then, if the customer says no, I guess that's our fault, right? I've lost count of how many screws I've found driven up into the keyframe or the ubiquitous drywall screws or the like holding legs in place (sort of). Sheesh!

Greg Newell

just a simple associate

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[Larry Fisher RPT]

If anyone has any to spare I would be happy to purchase them. too many movers losing screws!  this is driving me crazy. you can contact me off list thanks

 if Asian, what brand, hex head, allen, square head, flat head, etc.

I have some spares of the Samick type  ..........  3/8ths is the Allen wrench size.

[richa...@comcast.net]

I just did a Kimball grand where the screws that attached to the metal leg 
Cams were sticking up into the keybed and preventing the action from being removed.

Had to back them out, but then the cams were just sort hanging there!

Rick Ucci

Uccipiano.com

609-677-0444

[richa...@comcast.net]

Thanks, but they won't work.

This is an old Estey that Steinway had a hand in, according to the decal on the fallboard that is...
I guess the rebuilder wanted to make some extra cash.

He also redesigned the legs from spade to French Provincial , removed the leg plates and just ran some lag screws in.

Rick Ucci

Uccipiano.com

609-677-0444

[Larry Fisher RPT]

Gosh Rick, that sounds awful scary. The wrong French leg on a grand can spell some serious legal action especially if it's not attached correctly. As the piano gets heavier so should the leg. As the leg gets heavier/heftier so should the attaching hardware. If lags screws are all you need a good hardware store should have what you need. If there's an embedded T-nut in the keybed a matching bolt is all you need .... once again available from a good hardware store. In short, I don't fully understand your need here and so some additional particulars are needed.

As for the piano with the wrong sized cam screws, trace the wrong ones on a piece of paper and go get the right ones for that piano.  You'll thank yourself every time you need to access the action.

Lar

[Greg Newell]

And then there's this.  I got a call yesterday to move a piano who's legs were attached with Liquid Nails construction adhesive. Sheesh.

[paul bruesch]

You need a liquid hammer to R&R them then. I've just been grousing about LN used by previous owners around the house.

[Brian Trout]

Greg, ya gotta follow up with that one!!  You got a call to move the piano with the legs glued on with Liquid Nails.  Then what??? Did you move it?  Are you going to move it?  Are you going to try to fix it right? 

 

Ya can't just leave us hangin'...  LOL!!  :-)

[AMari...@aol.com]

I have one even better!  I got a call for a repair on this Steinway.  Piano was sent to Italy where the new veneer and gold plated gee-gaws were added. The legs do NOT come off.  The piano had to be moved from Italy as is, then in an elevator to the 30th floor.

 

I think they built a really big box!!

 

Any buyers???

 

Arthur

 

 

In a message dated 1/8/2015 7:47:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, pianocr...@gmail.com writes:

And then there's this.  I got a call yesterday to move a piano who's legs were attached with Liquid Nails construction adhesive. Sheesh.

On Jan 7, 2015 12:47 PM, "Larry Fisher RPT" <hoser...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft]

Arthur Who and what city does this piano reside?

Al -

High Point, NC

On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:34 AM, AMarino711 via pianotech <pian...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I have one even better!  I got a call for a repair on this Steinway.  Piano was sent to Italy where the new veneer and gold plated gee-gaws were added. The legs do NOT come off.  The piano had to be moved from Italy as is, then in an elevator to the 30th floor.

 

I think they built a really big box!!

 

Any buyers???

 

Arthur

 

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[Mike Spalding]

Well, Al Who, the fact that his email address, clearly shown in the message header, is AMarino711, might be a clue....

[AMari...@aol.com]

Hi Al... Its in Miami.  I think the local Steinway dealer took it in to sell.

 

Looks kinda festive though!!!

[Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft]

Mike, I didn’t get that message header, but I see his name in your reply. Came to me with just Pianotech Google & no name.. 

Al -

High Point, NC

[Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft]

Thanks Arthur, just curious.

Al -

High Point, NC

[Greg Newell]

Brain et al,

Yes, we will move it. I'm not proud. I can be bought! There will be a great many disclaimers and signatures required, of course. :-)

Greg

[Isaac Sadigursky]

The Pedal lyre does not look like a Steinway !!!!

On Jan 8, 2015, at 8:34 AM, AMarino711 via pianotech wrote:

I have one even better!  I got a call for a repair on this Steinway.  Piano was sent to Italy where the new veneer and gold plated gee-gaws were added. The legs do NOT come off.  The piano had to be moved from Italy as is, then in an elevator to the 30th floor.

 

I think they built a really big box!!

 

Any buyers???

 

Arthur

 

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[Horace Greeley]

Hi, Isaac!

Actually, it looks like an earlier, two-pedal Hamburg. In addition to
the lyre, check the arms and fallboard.

Kind regards.

Horace

On 1/8/2015 7:57 PM, Isaac Sadigursky wrote:
> The Pedal lyre does not look like a Steinway !!!!
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 8:34 AM, AMarino711 via pianotech wrote:
>
>> I have one even better! I got a call for a repair on this Steinway.
>> Piano was sent to Italy where the new veneer and gold plated gee-gaws
>> were added. The legs do NOT come off. The piano had to be moved from
>> Italy as is, then in an elevator to the 30th floor.
>> I think they built a really big box!!
>> Any buyers???
>> Arthur
>> <Untitled.jpg>
>> In a message dated 1/8/2015 7:47:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>> pianocr...@gmail.com <mailto:pianocr...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> And then there's this. I got a call yesterday to move a piano
>> who's legs were attached with Liquid Nails construction adhesive.
>> Sheesh.
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2015 12:47 PM, "Larry Fisher RPT"