Re: [pianotech] Steinway Carnage

[Joe Garrett]

Regi,

I wouldn't touch that with a 9foot pole! It's toast imo. Especially because it's a Steinway. That company is doing it's very best to discourage rebuilders in regards to their brand. A bunch of jerks imo.

I have fixed/rebuilt pianos with worse structural damage than that. They are still functioning as real pianos.<G> Would I pay $20k for the hulk? Not no, hell no!

Best,

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Regi Hedahl
Sent: May 21, 2021 8:58 PM
To: pianotech
Subject: [pianotech] Steinway Carnage

This mid 70's Steinway D was in the process of being transported on its side and toppled over onto its lid.  I was called in to assess the damage and see what it would take to fix it.  The piano fell badly out of tune from the fall and the dampers quit working.  I did not find any cracks in the plate.  However, what I did find was a cracked rim and the fall forced the plate and pinblock up about 3/8".  There are also numerous cracks where the stretcher bar meets the arm on both sides.  Can this all be glued and clamped back together?  Or is the structural integrity beyond feasible repair?  I've heard that a core Steinway D is worth about $20,000.  For those who rebuild Steinway D's, would you even pay anything for a piano like this?  Or is the damage beyond the core value?  Is it just a parts piano now?

-Regi

The fall forced the plate up and forced the damper guide rail along with it.  Someone tried to get the dampers working again by inserting felt strips between the damper guide rail and soundboard.

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Regi

I would "total" the piano. It needs to be repaired, including resetting the pinblock and case. Once you've got the palte out you might find other problems. 

I hope the movers and/or the customer were fully insured. 

Wim

PS. I'm not going to, but I would give you $15,000

[Terry Farrell]

Regi - I’d take Wim up on his non-offer. I don’t think that I’d even take this former piano for free. It would be really, really tough to figure out how to get glue into where glue was needed and then to position clamps. 

Terry Farrell

On May 22, 2021, at 1:22 AM, tnrwim via pianotech <pian...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Regi

I would "total" the piano. It needs to be repaired, including resetting the pinblock and case. Once you've got the palte out you might find other problems. 

I hope the movers and/or the customer were fully insured. 

Wim

PS. I'm not going to, but I would give you $15,000

-----Original Message-----
From: Regi Hedahl <piano...@gmail.com>
To: pianotech <pian...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2021 5:58 pm
Subject: [pianotech] Steinway Carnage

This mid 70's Steinway D was in the process of being transported on its side and toppled over onto its lid.  I was called in to assess the damage and see what it would take to fix it.  The piano fell badly out of tune from the fall and the dampers quit working.  I did not find any cracks in the plate.  However, what I did find was a cracked rim and the fall forced the plate and pinblock up about 3/8".  There are also numerous cracks where the stretcher bar meets the arm on both sides.  Can this all be glued and clamped back together?  Or is the structural integrity beyond feasible repair?  I've heard that a core Steinway D is worth about $20,000.  For those who rebuild Steinway D's, would you even pay anything for a piano like this?  Or is the damage beyond the core value?  Is it just a parts piano now?

-Regi

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[Regi Hedahl]

Wim,

Unfortunately, the movers were not insured nor bonded.  I suspect that they won't recover very much (if any) from this loss.

Regi

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[Joe Garrett]

Regi,

I forgot to ask: How many flights of stairs did the piano crash down? With that much damage, the piano construction was really faulty or that piano really fell from a high precipice, imo.

As Terry said, very difficult to put it back together.

Best,

Joe

[Regi Hedahl]

Joe,

The piano did not crash down from a flight of stairs.  From what I've been told, the piano was tipped onto a skidboard and strapped down.  As the crew was lifting the skidboard and piano off the ground to shove a dolly under the skidboard, things got out of hand and the piano tipped over onto its lid.

-Regi

[John]

I agree with Joe, 1970’s S&S are the WORSE. 👀 Teflon bushings?

-cheers

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[Joe Garrett]

Even if it was converted, the workmanship of that era was abyssmal! Key sets from Pratt Read that defied logic. Suspect factory quality was rampant. I wouldn't give more than  $1k for that hulk!

Best,

Joe

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Subject: Re: [pianotech] Steinway Carnage

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