As you know, much of the bundled content included with classic Sonar was licensed from third parties (e.g. TruePianos). Most of those are gone for good. In some cases, the companies behind them don't even exist anymore (e.g. Kjaerhus).
Unless there's some serious revamping, I don't see much good from CbB re-issuing those instruments. Compared with the free and paid offerings in the market atm, both versions of z3t4 are sort of mediocre in terms of features and sound quality. That would be more into keeping with people that want to have access to those for nostalgia reasons.
I have z3ta in my VST folder but CbB isn't picking it up - I've checked excluded plugin but it isn't there either. Any ideas? I've certainly used it before - possibly in Sonar Home Studio - can't remember if I have used it in CbB but I think I have
I renamed all the DLL files z3taplus and Cakewalk scanned them but did not add any new plug ins and they still don't appear sadly. Thanks for the suggestion though! Fortunately I don't use it in any existing projects but would like to have a listen to it again as I recall it was pretty good
I just wanted to say how much I am enjoying using z3ta+ 2...
I've had all of Rene's synths since back in the RGC days and they have always been special creations for me...
We know that he's a genius and his ideas are groundbreaking and inspiring...
But I must say that the new mechanics who worked on z3ta+ 2 have done a wonderful job in both paying homage to the original and bringing some new features to the table and everything is working perfectly for me...
I like the new library system and the GUI layout - both a big improvement on the original...It's easier to "drive" the new model......
The architecture of the synth engine is very similar to the original,but there's some new coding in there and the synth engine sounds better ...Top marks
The new filters and all the extra doo dahs are so cool and once again they sound great....
z3ta+ has always had a great vibe - it's got character and a real "mojo" about it and the new version loses none of that vibe...It's sounds great by itself and it's got attitude in the mix......
z3ta+ 2 makes many other soft synths out there sound soft alright ! Like limp lettuce :)
This synth is really deep and extremely versatile...Loading a few waveforms can transform it into whatever you want it to be - as Francesco showed us with the Virus mod...So cool and so many great possibilities...
Thanks to all involved at Cakewalk for the great work and especially to Rene for the original inspiration...
It's not really fair to compare this to Diva. They use different ways to make sound. Z3ta is a wave table synth and Diva is a virtual analog synth that what I think recreates the circuits of an old analog synthesizer. That takes a lot more processing power. Also you can change the quality in Diva. But I agree with you. Z3ta is an awesome synth.
Z3TA 2's Bank/Program architecture makes adding downloaded programs (.fxp files) and sharing programs easy. Z3TA 2 stores all of it's content in your Cakewalk Content folder. The default location for this is C:\Cakewalk Content\Z3TA 2\Programs
The folder hierarchy is Bank\Type\Program. For example, the keyboard patch 'Electro Clavinet 1 FS' that is included with Z3TA 2 is located in C:\Cakewalk Content\Z3TA 2\Programs\Factory Content\Keyboards
To install a Z3TA 2 preset (.fxp):
I am very new to iOS music and try to spend my bucks wisely. I have lots of apps in my wish list and come across new ones every day. Z3TA+ was just that synth that I came across. YouTube video's look great and sound wonderful. But the synth is getting a little long in the tooth. ( Old ) without a recent update even for AB3. I also hear that with iOS 11 coming at us, some apps might not work. How would I know if this was one of those? Is the developer still around?
Z3TA+ was a great synth until Cakewalk broke the preset export function. (Each time I try to export a preset, the app crashes.) Even worse, they refuse to bother updating it. Believe me, once every 6 or so months, I write Cakewalk a strongly-worded email/Facebook PM, and I get the same canned bullshit response about "we're working on other things but we'll eventually get around to updating z3ta+ for iPad".
@JudgeDredd said:
I am very new to iOS music and try to spend my bucks wisely. I have lots of apps in my wish list and come across new ones every day. Z3TA+ was just that synth that I came across. YouTube video's look great and sound wonderful. But the synth is getting a little long in the tooth. ( Old ) without a recent update even for AB3. I also hear that with iOS 11 coming at us, some apps might not work. How would I know if this was one of those? Is the developer still around?
@jwmmakerofmusic said:
Z3TA+ was a great synth until Cakewalk broke the preset export function. (Each time I try to export a preset, the app crashes.) Even worse, they refuse to bother updating it. Believe me, once every 6 or so months, I write Cakewalk a strongly-worded email/Facebook PM, and I get the same canned bullshit response about "we're working on other things but we'll eventually get around to updating z3ta+ for iPad".
I have been pining for this synth on iOS since I got my iPad. I got into iOS synths after the cakewalk implosion. I do have the original on my comp and it is a beast. Honestly, it's intimidating to me. One of the things that I must conquer. I have been wondering what has happened to the developer Rene, who is tremendous talent and a super guy.
When it comes to modulation, Cakewalk's mighty Z3TA+2 soft synth is ridiculously well equipped, bristling with all the envelopes and LFOs you could possibly need to bring life and mobility to your patches.
Step 8: To make the sub sit better with our throbbing, moving mid-range, we can modulate it too. To do this, go back to modulation Source 4, set it to LFO>LFO 2, with the Destination as Osc 3 Level, and turn the Range to 100%. It will sound terrible, as the sub is completely out of sync with the rhythm of the sound - to fix this, change its Curve type to Bi-Linear+. Now it sounds really cool!
6 wave-shaping oscillators each with dozens of waveforms to choose and assign to them. With these come 3 (A,B,&C) sections of more shaper controls to further twist, mangle and fold each oscillator to mind boggling sound angles. The textures and degrees of options leave me blissfully drooling.
The third and last page is the Effects page. Six advanced modular effects. Varied distortions, 3 Delays with sync, cross, ping/pong, modulations like Stereo Chorus, Flanger, Phaser of different types. A Reverb with big booming sound or subtle room types. A Seven band EQ with several mode types and speaker simulations.
All the FX in the chain can be re-ordered to your liking.
Sonar 's introduction marked a turning point for the company, and PC users. The tide in the US started ebbing away from Logic and Cubase: Logic became Mac only, while Cubase was acquired by Pinnacle, who, it seemed, couldn't quite figure out what to do with it (happily, Steinberg have now found a home with Yamaha). Sonar continued to grow in popularity, and a partnership with Roland provided extra muscle with respect to distribution and product development.
Significantly, Cakewalk also took first place for recording software in the prestigious Music Industry Press Awards (MIPA) at Messe 2005, beating both Apple Logic Pro 7 and Ableton Live 4. This was quite an achievement, given that Sonar wasn't even nominated last year. For those not familiar with MIPA (now in its sixth year), the winners are nominated and chosen by the editors of 58 music magazines from all over the world. Many consider it to be the 'purest' award scheme, as neither reader votes nor advertiser pressure are elements in the voting process.
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