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John Cheney

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Responding to the mention about out of date technology for speeding tickets - the Mesa court system is largely paperless and the city recently implemented a fully electronic ticket system.  I don’t think all cars have it yet.  If you get one of the high tech tickets, the details will be in the court system, and the website is ready to take your money about 15 minutes after the ticket is issued.

 

FYI - I work for city of Mesa.  I have mentioned creating a data repository site inspired by http://data.ca.gov .  Management is not against it, but does not give it any priority because they do not see demand from the public.  I have to admit they are right.  I have not seen any suggestions to the city website  http://mesaaz.gov or the mayor’s iMesa forum  http://iMesa.mesaaz.gov for such a site.   Any suggestions along this line will get farther if there are examples of suggested data and formats, and why it would be useful.

 

 

 

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Mark Ng <ma...@markng.me.uk> Oct 05 09:21AM -0700 ^

 
Yesterdays meeting was a good time to summarise where the various
PHXdata projects are at at the moment. Present were Brian Shaler,
David Gleason, Aaron Kavlie, Nick Martin, Andrew Long, Mike Benner,
myself. Thanks to everyone who attended.
 
Recast:
 
Brian has been waiting for several months for me to do some backend
work on Recast, which I haven't had the time to do. After hearing a
summary of what Recast will do, Mike expressed an interest on working
on the backend with Brian, and they both mentioned the idea of using
node.js to run the backend (node.js will work well for this for us,
because recast doesn't use any of Django's advantages particularly and
Javascript is more universal amongst coders available to work on
PHXData projects). We all agreed this was a great idea. The code will
live in the github repository, where the current start on a django
project is ( https://github.com/phxdata/recast ).
 
TheyWorkForAZ:
 
Some months ago, great progress was made toward making TheyWorkForAZ
fully functional, with the help of my time and the time of Cronkite
School journalism students (among others, Heather Billings, a member
of this list) donated by the school. Currently, a prototype of the
application with old data is online at http://theyworkforaz.us/ - it
needs the following done in order to make it a complete product :
 
Link it up with Sunlight Labs Openstates API product, in order that we
don't need to maintain a scraper, and to make it possible for other
states to use our code for similar ideas
Finish the tracking functionality - at the moment, you can mark
entities (Bills, Represenatives, Senators etc) for tracking, but don't
get emails when these things change.
Improve the geocoding process to increase accuracy around the borders
of districts - at the moment, we warn people when our results might be
inaccurate - this might be okay.
 
If no-one gets to this before me, I'll have significant time to work
on this in December, or at our next hackathon.
 
PHXData website:
 
The PHXdata website is up on github (
https://github.com/phxdata/PHXdata-Website ). Anyone can fork and make
changes which we can pull. If you've made a change that needs to go
onto the site, then fire an email to Brian Shaler, who donates the
server space that it runs on.
 
Data Catalog:
 
Aaron explained to us a little bit more about how the Data Catalog
works - some of us (myself included) had the misconception that it was
a place to upload datasets to, when it's actually a place to show
people where datasets are. If you'd like to add datasets to the
catalog, the best way to do so is to register for an account (
http://catalog.phxdata.org ), and then ask Aaron or someone else with
admin access (soon, me) to set your account to admin access. There's
still a bunch of things to clean up- this project also lives in the
PHXData github repository. Myself and Aaron have access to the server
instance that Andrew Long donated for this project and the boundary
service project, and if you make changes, either of us can pull them
onto the server.
 
Boundary Service:
 
We didn't discuss the boundary service much yesterday, but it's live
with data in it. However, currently, there is no front end added to
the application. Christopher Groskopf (of the Panda Project), one of
the developers who wrote the service, has some front end code that I
believe we could borrow.
 
There were several other interesting unrelated discussions, including,
but not limited to :
 
Techniques and tools AuthorityLabs use in order to deal with large
scale SEO-related datasets, how frustrating it is that speed ticket
payment hasn't entered the 21st century, Malcolm Gladwell and
Spaghetti Sauce, how deep into the wilderness cell service goes and
why we're all not sure that moving to SF is really a great idea.
 
Next months meeting is the same time (First Tuesday, 6:30pm) venue is
to be decided.
 
We're wanting to organise a hackathon within the next few months. I've
suggested a date on the list already, but I'm open to suggestions.
 
Please add anything important I neglected to include.
 
Mark
 
Mark

 

Nick Martin <emailni...@gmail.com> Oct 05 01:08PM -0700 ^

 
Great update, Mark. And great meeting last night, everyone. It renewed my
excitement in the projects we're working on at PHXdata. Thanks to everyone
who came out and made it possible. I'm looking forward to November's meeting
and seeing what happens in the meantime.
 
Nick Martin
 
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Mark Ng <ma...@markng.me.uk> Oct 04 11:46PM -0700 ^

 
Can I get a show of virtual hands for how many might be able to make
it to a hack day on Saturday 5th November?
 
Mark

 

James Fee <jf...@weogeo.com> Oct 05 07:36AM -0700 ^

 
I'd love to come, but I have my son that week.
 
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On Oct 5, 2011, at 1:59 PM, "John Cheney" <John....@mesaaz.gov<mailto:John....@mesaaz.gov>> wrote:

Responding to the mention about out of date technology for speeding tickets - the Mesa court system is largely paperless and the city recently implemented a fully electronic ticket system. I don’t think all cars have it yet. If you get one of the high tech tickets, the details will be in the court system, and the website is ready to take your money about 15 minutes after the ticket is issued.

FYI - I work for city of Mesa. I have mentioned creating a data repository site inspired by <http://data.ca.gov> http://data.ca.gov . Management is not against it, but does not give it any priority because they do not see demand from the public. I have to admit they are right. I have not seen any suggestions to the city website <http://mesaaz.gov> http://mesaaz.gov or the mayor’s iMesa forum <http://iMesa.mesaaz.gov> http://iMesa.mesaaz.gov for such a site. Any suggestions along this line will get farther if there are examples of suggested data and formats, and why it would be useful.



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* October PHXdata summary [2 Updates]
* PHXData Hack Day [2 Updates]
Topic: October PHXdata summary<http://groups.google.com/group/phxdata/t/894395fd67207fe6>
Mark Ng <<mailto:ma...@markng.me.uk>ma...@markng.me.uk<mailto:ma...@markng.me.uk>> Oct 05 09:21AM -0700 ^

Yesterdays meeting was a good time to summarise where the various
PHXdata projects are at at the moment. Present were Brian Shaler,
David Gleason, Aaron Kavlie, Nick Martin, Andrew Long, Mike Benner,
myself. Thanks to everyone who attended.

Recast:

Brian has been waiting for several months for me to do some backend
work on Recast, which I haven't had the time to do. After hearing a
summary of what Recast will do, Mike expressed an interest on working
on the backend with Brian, and they both mentioned the idea of using
node.js to run the backend (node.js will work well for this for us,
because recast doesn't use any of Django's advantages particularly and
Javascript is more universal amongst coders available to work on
PHXData projects). We all agreed this was a great idea. The code will
live in the github repository, where the current start on a django
project is ( <https://github.com/phxdata/recast> https://github.com/phxdata/recast ).

TheyWorkForAZ:

Some months ago, great progress was made toward making TheyWorkForAZ
fully functional, with the help of my time and the time of Cronkite
School journalism students (among others, Heather Billings, a member
of this list) donated by the school. Currently, a prototype of the
application with old data is online at <http://theyworkforaz.us/> http://theyworkforaz.us/ - it
needs the following done in order to make it a complete product :

Link it up with Sunlight Labs Openstates API product, in order that we
don't need to maintain a scraper, and to make it possible for other
states to use our code for similar ideas
Finish the tracking functionality - at the moment, you can mark
entities (Bills, Represenatives, Senators etc) for tracking, but don't
get emails when these things change.
Improve the geocoding process to increase accuracy around the borders
of districts - at the moment, we warn people when our results might be
inaccurate - this might be okay.

If no-one gets to this before me, I'll have significant time to work
on this in December, or at our next hackathon.

PHXData website:

The PHXdata website is up on github (
<https://github.com/phxdata/PHXdata-Website>https://github.com/phxdata/PHXdata-Website ). Anyone can fork and make
changes which we can pull. If you've made a change that needs to go
onto the site, then fire an email to Brian Shaler, who donates the
server space that it runs on.

Data Catalog:

Aaron explained to us a little bit more about how the Data Catalog
works - some of us (myself included) had the misconception that it was
a place to upload datasets to, when it's actually a place to show
people where datasets are. If you'd like to add datasets to the
catalog, the best way to do so is to register for an account (
<http://catalog.phxdata.org>http://catalog.phxdata.org ), and then ask Aaron or someone else with
Nick Martin <<mailto:emailni...@gmail.com>emailni...@gmail.com<mailto:emailni...@gmail.com>> Oct 05 01:08PM -0700 ^

Great update, Mark. And great meeting last night, everyone. It renewed my
excitement in the projects we're working on at PHXdata. Thanks to everyone
who came out and made it possible. I'm looking forward to November's meeting
and seeing what happens in the meantime.

Nick Martin

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Topic: PHXData Hack Day<http://groups.google.com/group/phxdata/t/7beadf333c370b4c>
Mark Ng <<mailto:ma...@markng.me.uk>ma...@markng.me.uk<mailto:ma...@markng.me.uk>> Oct 04 11:46PM -0700 ^

Can I get a show of virtual hands for how many might be able to make
it to a hack day on Saturday 5th November?

Mark


James Fee <<mailto:jf...@weogeo.com>jf...@weogeo.com<mailto:jf...@weogeo.com>> Oct 05 07:36AM -0700 ^

I'd love to come, but I have my son that week.

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