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[Steve McDougall]

Is there a reason we wouldn't increase this PHP version higher? I'm all for backwards compatibility and understand people can't always be on the "latest and greatest" versions, but 7.1 seems a tad outdated to me.

As an aside, PSR-17 is one of my most appreciated so thanks for your work on this.

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Steve McDougall

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PSR-17 Explicit Nullable

Woody Gilk <woody...@gmail.com>: Apr 15 07:11AM -0500 As editor of PSR-17, I hereby call a vote to:   1. Change the minimum required version of PHP to 7.1 for PSR-17. 2. Add explicit nullable types to PSR-17 interfaces. 3. Tag a new release v1.1.0 of psr/http-factory with changes (1) and (2).   The relevant PRs are:   https://github.com/php-fig/fig-standards/pull/1321 https://github.com/php-fig/http-factory/pull/17   Thank you,   -- Woody Gilk (he/him) https://www.shadowhand.com

Alessandro Lai <alessand...@gmail.com>: Apr 15 06:02AM -0700 To clarify, this is the same as an Errata vote: https://www.php-fig.org/bylaws/voting-protocol/#errata-vote, which follows the Approval Vote procedures of: - only Core Committee members vote - 50% quorum - 2/3 majority required   Il giorno lunedì 15 aprile 2024 alle 14:12:24 UTC+2 woody...@gmail.com ha scritto:

Matteo Beccati <matteo....@gmail.com>: Apr 15 03:10PM +0200 +1     thanks for the quick follow up!     -- -- Matteo Beccati   Development & Consulting - http://www.beccati.com/

Ken Guest <ken....@gmail.com>: Apr 15 06:19AM -0700 and it's a +1 from me :-)   On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 2:11:00 PM UTC+1 Matteo Beccati wrote:

Vincent de Lau <vin...@delau.nl>: Apr 15 06:28AM -0700 +1 from me as well.   I would not mind a small rationale in the errata why it is `?string` and not `string|null`.   On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 3:19:43 PM UTC+2 Ken Guest wrote:

Matteo Beccati <mat...@beccati.com>: Apr 15 03:40PM +0200 Hi Vincent,Il 15/04/2024 15:28, Vincent de Lau ha scritto:> I would not mind a small rationale in the errata why it is `?string` and > not `string|null`.   That would mean raising the required version to 8.0, when union types were introduced.     Cheers -- Matteo Beccati   Development & Consulting - http://www.beccati.com/

Korvin Szanto <korvin...@gmail.com>: Apr 15 06:40AM -0700 +1

Woody Gilk <woody...@gmail.com>: Apr 15 09:00AM -0500 > > not `string|null`.   > That would mean raising the required version to 8.0, when union types > were introduced.   Which we can do, but it would be a *major* (2.0) version change. This is an incremental step with a *minor* (1.1) version change.     -- Woody Gilk (he/him) https://www.shadowhand.com

Alessandro Chitolina <alek...@gmail.com>: Apr 15 07:32AM -0700 +1   Il giorno lunedì 15 aprile 2024 alle 16:00:50 UTC+2 Woody Gilk ha scritto:   On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 8:40 AM Matteo Beccati <mat...@beccati.com> wrote:   Hi Vincent,Il 15/04/2024 15:28, Vincent de Lau ha scritto:> I would not mind a small rationale in the errata why it is `?string` and > not `string|null`.   That would mean raising the required version to 8.0, when union types were introduced.     Which we can do, but it would be a *major* (2.0) version change. This is an incremental step with a *minor* (1.1) version change.     It would be a minor change even if bumping to PHP 8+ and switching to "string|null" union type as long as "= null" is in place. This change would not break any existing API as the implementations with "string $x = null" are still accepted even if the interface declares it as "string|null"       -- Woody Gilk (he/him) https://www.shadowhand.com         Cheers -- Matteo Beccati   Development & Consulting - http://www.beccati.com/   -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to php-fig+u...@googlegroups.com.   To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/723dba4f-ab7f-4dab-a63d-73951da3798d%40beccati.com .

"Larry Garfield" <la...@garfieldtech.com>: Apr 15 03:22PM +1   (Please don't discuss in this thread, folks.)   -- Larry Garfield la...@garfieldtech.com   On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, at 12:11 PM, Woody Gilk wrote:

Chuck Burgess <demon...@gmail.com>: Apr 15 10:27AM -0500 +1 CRB

Jaap van Otterdijk <ja...@ijaap.nl>: Apr 15 11:34AM -0700 +1 Jaapio   Op maandag 15 april 2024 om 17:27:29 UTC+2 schreef Chuck Burgess:

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[Larry Garfield]

On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, at 3:04 PM, Steve McDougall wrote:
> Is there a reason we wouldn't increase this PHP version higher? I'm all
> for backwards compatibility and understand people can't always be on
> the "latest and greatest" versions, but 7.1 seems a tad outdated to me.
>
> As an aside, PSR-17 is one of my most appreciated so thanks for your
> work on this.

Mainly that there's no benefit in this case to a newer version. If the interface had places where a union type or `mixed` would be helpful, for instance, then it would make sense to go all the way to 8.0 and use them. (We did that for a few other updated PSRs.) If the optimal set of language features for the particular RFC can be satisfied by 7.1, then there's no real benefit to forcing it higher just-because.

--Larry Garfield