[Vote] Require Aura project to replace its representative

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Samantha Quiñones

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Jul 28, 2016, 7:56:52 PM7/28/16
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All,

The discussion period having concluded, I am now opening a vote on the matter of the proposal to require the Aura project to name a new voting representative.

The discussion thread is available here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/php-fig/w38tCU4mdgU/R1oyiIMuAAAJ

To summarize, I am opening this vote at the request of a number of voting representatives who have asked that this matter be taken up under the Voting Representatives section of the Membership Bylaw, the full text of which is located here: http://www.php-fig.org/bylaws/membership/#voting-representatives. The relevant section of the bylaw is as follows:

"If, in the judgement of PHP-FIG, a Voting Representative is acting inappropriately and to the detriment of PHP-FIG's ability to meet its objectives, a vote may be taken to request a replacement Voting Representative in accordance with the Voting Protocol bylaw or to expel the Member Project where replacing a Voting Representative is not possible."

A vote of +1 is a vote for requiring the Aura project to name a new voting representative.

A vote of -1 is a vote against requiring the Aura project to name a new voting representative.

If the motion passes, the current voting representative (Paul M. Jones) will be removed as the listed voting representative for the Aura project. The Aura project may then name a new representative in the usual fashion. If the project fails to name a new representative, it is subject to expulsion under the bylaws.

If the motion fails, the Aura project will not be required to name a new representative.

This vote will proceed according the Voting Protocol and will close on 11-August-2011 at 23:59 UTC.

To further clarify, this vote is not a vote to ban Paul M. Jones from participation in the FIG, only to request the Aura project to name a new voting representative. Further, this vote is not about whether you like or dislike Paul, but if you believe that he has acted in a way detrimental to the FIG.

I want to make it explicitly and unequivocally clear that the purpose of this thread is for qualified voting members to vote on the matter at hand. This is a very sensitive issue and I will not tolerate discussion or flaming in this thread. I ask that all participants please respect Paul's dignity, as well as the dignity of the FIG, and refrain from personal attacks or other disruptive or divisive behavior. There are human beings involved in absolutely every step of this process and I further ask you to give one another the benefit of the doubt and operate from the assumption that others are working as hard for the success and advancement of the FIG as you are.

If you have any questions about this vote, please direct them to info [at] php-fig.org.

Thank you for your participation,
Samantha Quiñones, Secretary

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Jul 28, 2016, 8:39:49 PM7/28/16
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:+1: from The League

Larry Garfield

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+1

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Adam Culp

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Jul 28, 2016, 9:31:44 PM7/28/16
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-1

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Jordi Boggiano

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Jul 29, 2016, 12:31:13 AM7/29/16
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+1 for Composer

Ryan Thompson

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Jul 29, 2016, 1:45:13 AM7/29/16
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+1 PyroCMS

Marc Alexander

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+1 phpBB

Michiel Rook

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-1

Alexander Makarov

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Jul 29, 2016, 9:12:45 AM7/29/16
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-1 from Yii.
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Michael Cullum

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Jul 29, 2016, 9:54:52 AM7/29/16
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Judd,

Voting is for project representatives of member projects only as per the voting protocol[1] and only votes, not discussion or opinion polling, should take place in this thread.

Thanks,
Michael Cullum
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On 29 July 2016 at 14:48, Judd Bundy <datas...@gmail.com> wrote:
-1

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Paul Dragoonis

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Jul 29, 2016, 10:42:37 AM7/29/16
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Matteo Beccati

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Jul 29, 2016, 10:46:38 AM7/29/16
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Hi,

-1 from Revive Adserver
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Judd Bundy

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Jul 29, 2016, 10:51:17 AM7/29/16
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I noticed and deleted my post immediately, it couldn't have been there for more than 20 seconds. Sorry about any inconvenience.

Robert Hafner

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Jul 29, 2016, 12:43:48 PM7/29/16
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-1

Since every time I vote against “the cabal” I get yelled at on Twitter and in private messages, I feel I’m forced to throw some reason up. To be frank, Paul is not even close to being the most disruptive member, and the manipulation that happens behind the scenes of this organization instead of out in the open is, to me, far worse than Paul’s inability to keep his foot out of his mouth. The direct and malicious- but off list- actions of certain members of this group make me wonder why we haven’t nominated *them* for removal after literally years of bad behavior that has directly prevented people from working on PSRs. This awful double standard, combined with the fact that a large amount of this effort (including lobbying efforts that are occurring off of this list) is being done by people who have left this group or where never part of it, makes this whole thing seem like a bad joke.


Rob

Robert Hafner

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Jul 29, 2016, 1:14:35 PM7/29/16
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It was pointed out to me that I forgot to add that this is on behalf of the Stash project.

-1 from Stash.

Rob

André R.

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Jul 29, 2016, 1:25:25 PM7/29/16
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+1 from eZ


Best,
André

Andres Gutierrez

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-1 from Phalcon

Chuck Burgess

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Jul 29, 2016, 6:34:27 PM7/29/16
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-1 from PEAR


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Jeroen De Dauw

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Jul 29, 2016, 7:37:40 PM7/29/16
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-1 from SMW and Wikibase

Michiel Rook

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Jul 30, 2016, 4:54:19 AM7/30/16
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To clarify: -1 from Phing

Shefik

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-1 from Zikula
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Dracony

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Jul 30, 2016, 7:22:16 AM7/30/16
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-1 from PHPixie

So happy this ends finally

On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 1:56:52 AM UTC+2, Samantha Quiñones wrote:

Leo Feyer

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Damian Mooyman

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-1 SilverStripe

Matthew Weier O'Phinney

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+0 from Zend Framework.
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Chris Tankersley

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+0, Sculpin

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Not that matters, but my personal vote is -1.


Jason Coward

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+0 from Slim Framework

Nate Abele

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-1 Lithium

Ben Marks

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+0 Magento

Lukas Kahwe Smith

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-1 from Jackalope
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Korvin Szanto

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Aug 2, 2016, 1:34:27 PM8/2/16
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Looks like this vote is not going to pass, but I feel like I should cast my vote regardless and +0 feels like an easy way out.

+1 concrete5

To me the issue is that Paul does not acknowledge that his behavior is detrimental, I have no reason to believe that he is going to make any attempt to be more civil and amicable in the future. 
My vote would be a -1 if I had seen Paul respond with something like "Well I didn't feel like I was being inappropriate, but I see how you could feel that way. I'll try to be more considerate in the future."

Thanks,
Korvin

Robert Deutz

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-1 for Joomla

Robert

Bernhard Rusch

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+0 Pimcore

Fabien Potencier

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+1 Symfony

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Larry E. Masters

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-1 CakePHP

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Cees-Jan Kiewiet

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+1 ReactPHP

A little explanation for this vote has to be given as my name was on 'the list'. While if (and won't in it's current state by the looks of it) this vote passes Paul is removed as voting member. He will however still a member of the mailing list he is (very) active on in his own way. Which is perceived as a problem at moments. For my personally it was overwhelming at times, hence the reason I had a chat with the secretaries. After discussing this vote internally within the project we felt that this whole situation could have handled better by a lot of the involved parties. Hence the +1 signaling that we as the FIG can do better than current embarrassing drama.

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Michael Cullum

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Aug 12, 2016, 7:05:25 PM8/12/16
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Hi all,

Thanks to all who voted. The voting has closed and the vote to require a change in Aura's representative has not passed.

Quorum was reached with 29 voters; there were 9 votes in favour, 16 against.

Pimcore, your vote was not included as precedent dictates that the voting members from the beginning of a vote are eligible but not those who join in the voting period; apologies for not communicating this to you at the time you posted your vote.

Voting stats:

Number of Non-Voters8
Positive Votes9
Negative Votes16
Abstain Votes4
Voters29
Total Number of Members37 (Aura not included)
Quorum Number12
Quorum MetYes
Percentage Voted78%
Percentage of Voters Positive31%
Percentage of Voters Negative55%
Percentage of Members Voted Positive24%
Percentage of Members Voted Negative43%
Sponsor/Vote StarterSamantha Quiñones
Secretary/TallierMichael Cullum
Finish Date11/08/2016
Passing (Over 50% of cast votes & Quorum)No
Over 50% of Members Voted PositiveNo
Final ResultFail

View the full voting tally here.

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