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Aug 8, 2023, 2:36:50 AM8/8/23
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I use the nextcloud cloud and no matter what settings I try, I don't see the desired effect. I choose photos not older than 10 days and not newer than 10 and select the moments option. I would like to display photos from a period of 20 days around the current date from previous years or the current one. However, I get a presentation of all possible dates no matter what percentage of previous photos I choose. There are a lot of photos, about 400 GB. From the date range I choose, there are several thousand of them every day (at least that's what the memories application in nextcloud shows). What am I doing wrong? What do I not understand?

Martin Vysny

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Aug 11, 2023, 4:22:40 AM8/11/23
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Hi,

sorry - the "moments" feature is quite confusing. Please make sure to have the "Filter On Date" preference enabled, otherwise the entire moments settings are ignored. I'll improve the message to explicitly state this.

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I use the nextcloud cloud and no matter what settings I try, I don't see the desired effect. I choose photos not older than 10 days and not newer than 10 and select the moments option. I would like to display photos from a period of 20 days around the current date from previous years or the current one. However, I get a presentation of all possible dates no matter what percentage of previous photos I choose. There are a lot of photos, about 400 GB. From the date range I choose, there are several thousand of them every day (at least that's what the memories application in nextcloud shows). What am I doing wrong? What do I not understand? --
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Aug 15, 2023, 3:30:28 AM8/15/23
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When i enabled "Filter on Date" option stideshow doesn't show any of my photos and it just presents "please purchase" scrolling all the time. I will gladly do it if only I get the desired effect :-)

Martin Vysny

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Aug 16, 2023, 4:15:20 AM8/16/23
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Whoops, that means that all photos were filtered away - sorry about that :-D

That means that PhotoCloud is not able to retrieve the photo upload date from the underlying filesystem (NextCloud Cloud), for some reason. To verify this, I'll show the "FS Last Modified" date in the photo details, which is the date considered when filtering for Moments.

After the next version of PhotoCloud is released, could you please take a look whether the "FS Last Modified" field shows some sensible data?

Andrzej Blukis

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Aug 16, 2023, 6:22:04 AM8/16/23
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Yes, of course i will check that.

16 sie 2023 10:15:21 Martin Vysny <mar...@vysny.me>:

Martin Vysny

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Aug 17, 2023, 4:47:08 AM8/17/23
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The new PhotoCloud is out, please upgrade and try it out :)

Andrzej Blukis

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Aug 18, 2023, 11:37:11 AM8/18/23
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Where is it? I can't find any update on google play.

17 sie 2023 10:47:06 Martin Vysny <mar...@vysny.me>:

The new PhotoCloud is out, please upgrade and try it out :)

On 16.8.2023 13.21, Andrzej Blukis wrote:
Yes, of course i will check that.

16 sie 2023 10:15:21 Martin Vysny <mar...@vysny.me>:

Whoops, that means that all photos were filtered away - sorry about that :-D

That means that PhotoCloud is not able to retrieve the photo upload date from the underlying filesystem (NextCloud Cloud), for some reason. To verify this, I'll show the "FS Last Modified" date in the photo details, which is the date considered when filtering for Moments.

After the next version of PhotoCloud is released, could you please take a look whether the "FS Last Modified" field shows some sensible data?

On 15.8.2023 10.30, A B wrote:
When i enabled "Filter on Date" option stideshow doesn't show any of my photos and it just presents "please purchase" scrolling all the time. I will gladly do it if only I get the desired effect :-)

piątek, 11 sierpnia 2023 o 10:22:40 UTC+2 Martin Vysny napisał(a):

Hi,

sorry - the "moments" feature is quite confusing. Please make sure to have the "Filter On Date" preference enabled, otherwise the entire moments settings are ignored. I'll improve the message to explicitly state this.

On 8.8.2023 9.36, A B wrote:
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Martin Vysny

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Aug 19, 2023, 4:09:22 AM8/19/23
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You're right, something is wrong, Google Play only offers an ancient version of Photocloud, for some reason. Let me check.

Martin Vysny

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Aug 19, 2023, 4:14:27 AM8/19/23
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My Google Play Console shows that the last active version is 1.14.6 released two days ago. However, Google Play only shows some ancient version (1.11) which I keep alive for ancient androids. Investigating.

Martin Vysny

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Aug 20, 2023, 3:02:51 AM8/20/23
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1.15.0 is finally on Google Play, please try it out.

Andrzej Blukis

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Aug 20, 2023, 10:46:48 AM8/20/23
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Yes. I updated and checked. In photo details I get something like this in attachement in every photo. So when i turn on filter function no image apear instead "please purchase" still.

20 sie 2023 09:02:49 Martin Vysny <mar...@vysny.me>:

1.15.0 is finally on Google Play, please try it out.

On 18.8.2023 18.37, Andrzej Blukis wrote:
Where is it? I can't find any update on google play.

17 sie 2023 10:47:06 Martin Vysny <mar...@vysny.me>:

The new PhotoCloud is out, please upgrade and try it out :)

On 16.8.2023 13.21, Andrzej Blukis wrote:
Yes, of course i will check that.

16 sie 2023 10:15:21 Martin Vysny <mar...@vysny.me>:

Whoops, that means that all photos were filtered away - sorry about that :-D

That means that PhotoCloud is not able to retrieve the photo upload date from the underlying filesystem (NextCloud Cloud), for some reason. To verify this, I'll show the "FS Last Modified" date in the photo details, which is the date considered when filtering for Moments.

After the next version of PhotoCloud is released, could you please take a look whether the "FS Last Modified" field shows some sensible data?

On 15.8.2023 10.30, A B wrote:
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Martin Vysny

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Aug 21, 2023, 2:07:10 AM8/21/23
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Damn, that means that the Owncloud client returns 0 as the "Last Modified" date, which means that the NextCloud client can not retrieve the "Last Modified" date properly, which means that the "Moments" functionality won't work unfortunately.

PhotoCloud works in a way that EXIF parsing happens much later on than the "Moments" filtering; that means that "Moments" can only take "Last Modified" as offered by the filesystem, which in this case is not calculated properly by the NextCloud client. I can't upgrade the client since I've patched the current one to also accept self-signed certificates, and porting that is a non-trivial task, not worth the time.

I've modified the code to try to read the "modifiedTimestamp" also, in addition to "creationTimestamp", but I have no high hopes of this actually working.

Meanwhile, unfortuantely there's no other way but to  disable the "Moments" functionality.

Andrzej Blukis

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Aug 21, 2023, 3:13:46 AM8/21/23
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Real shame.  And isn't there some API to extract exif information from apps like nextcloud memories?  Nextcloud itself also stores this information somewhere because it offers something like "in this Day" (https://..../nextcloud/index.php/apps/photos/thisday) . Is there no chance to somehow extract these  information?

21 sie 2023 08:07:08 Martin Vysny <mar...@vysny.me>:

Damn, that means that the Owncloud client returns 0 as the "Last Modified" date, which means that the NextCloud client can not retrieve the "Last Modified" date properly, which means that the "Moments" functionality won't work unfortunately.

PhotoCloud works in a way that EXIF parsing happens much later on than the "Moments" filtering; that means that "Moments" can only take "Last Modified" as offered by the filesystem, which in this case is not calculated properly by the NextCloud client. I can't upgrade the client since I've patched the current one to also accept self-signed certificates, and porting that is a non-trivial task, not worth the time.

I've modified the code to try to read the "modifiedTimestamp" also, in addition to "creationTimestamp", but I have no high hopes of this actually working.

Meanwhile, unfortuantely there's no other way but to  disable the "Moments" functionality.

On 20.8.2023 17.46, Andrzej Blukis wrote:

Yes. I updated and checked. In photo details I get something like this in attachement in every photo. So when i turn on filter function no image apear instead "please purchase" still.

20 sie 2023 09:02:49 Martin Vysny <mar...@vysny.me>:

1.15.0 is finally on Google Play, please try it out.

On 18.8.2023 18.37, Andrzej Blukis wrote:
Where is it? I can't find any update on google play.

17 sie 2023 10:47:06 Martin Vysny <mar...@vysny.me>:

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