Hdsp Digiface

[Wesley Godinez]

Igot a problem. Earlier my computer was installed with one pci card with Digiface and another card with Multiface. For a couple a weeks ago I remove one pci card and the Digiface breakout box cause a friend of my needed it for some project. I have not use the computer since then, When I started the computer yesterday Hammerfall DSP settings recognize the Multiface as a Digiface.

I have uninstalled the software and have a cold reboot. Same problem.

Again I uninstall the software and deleted follow files from Windows directory.

It has to be a HW issue. I change the FW cable and tested the cables with a cable tester. Cables was OK. I also tested the Multiface on my Laptop with cardbus and it still recognize the Multiface as Digiface.

Strange cause I only remove the second PCI card for the Digiface from the computer. Everyting works before that.

Is there any way to reflash or reset the firmware in the Multiface? Not in the PCI card or cardbus.

I've a Multiface I (Nuendo) with a black PCI card and the first pcmcia card with flat connector. I can't find the rev. number any place. Any id where I find it.

If I understate right. There is different Flashfile for ver. 1.8. If I`d flash with wrong FW can that be a problem ala mine?

I have the same issue. Sometimes it is seen as rpm or digiface.

Sometimes it is correctly seen as multiface but half of the time I have problems on the inputs, that show sound coming on totalmix fx even when nothing is pluged in.

I use it with a pcie rme card, and a rme power unit i had with my old pcmcia hammerfall.

Recently I discovered that un plug and plug again the card resolved temporary the problem.

I will try a new cable (I already changed it with and old one)... but in case it solves nothing, does it make sense and is it possible to repair an old multiface of early 2000's? I was happy with it...

The transceivers at both ends might be partially broken. We had customers exchanging these chips and regaining full functionality, but those were technically skilled. I don't know the exact value/price for such an old Multiface, but repair might be higher than that. Contact your local distributor to find out.

to 1) this is only applicable for the Digiface, as the RayDAT is a pure digital card without ADDA section

to 2) RayDAT is directly connected to PCIe which is an advantage, Multiface had a PCI card connected (like a firewire card) but ran its own protocol over it.

When using a pure digital card like the RayDAT then you need to add the time for A/D and D/A conversion of the device which you connect via ADAT. RME documents this in their handbook in the section "Latency and Monitoring". The Latencies differ with sample frequency. The values below are all at 44.1 kHz.

To answer your question which of the two is better in terms of the i.e. "total latency", like shown in the calculations above, one would need to know which Preamp and/or AD/DA converter you plan to connect to the RayDAT. And then its should be a RME device, because other vendors do not communicate so open the technical data as RME does in their handbooks.

And you need of course a running Multiface solution to be able to read the RTT reported by the driver.

No, but it depends on what you call a difference.

On my PC I usually work at 128 samples, 64 is also workable on my system but latency wise I can play fine up to 256. So at 64 or 128 I don't mind a difference of 0.1 or 0.5ms. So unless you specify what you are looking for (and maybe why), it is tough to answer.

I see! Well that is a really difficult one. Could be a number of things.

-Your system is not powerful enough for your load

-not tweaked enough

-wrong hardware (some mobo's will never work right at super low buffers)

-Some VSTi and VSTfx don't like low buffers (for example Hreverb load drops enormously at 1024)

-And very maybe PCI vs PCIe will make a difference but I would not expect it. Only try it if you can return it.

If it works ok at 128 keep it at that and make sure none of your plugins add extra latency, which the daw will compensate and will thus add latency to the live playing too.

I assumed windows, which needs to be tweaked a little. And since you have a hdspe card (I missed the E) the raydat will make zero difference.

And it is worth looking into the plugins you use. For example some Kontakt scripts don't like really low latency. Some pianos need 8 or more voices per note. For live you can choose with some care and reduce the load. Unless you mean live in the studio then my advice makes no sense...

I don't know how efficient logic is with live low latency. You could try reaper, it is free to try.

If there are things you can disable while playing, like sympathetic string resonance (if it has this) maybe the onboard reverb and other non essentials, it might work better and you can enable again after recording. And keep an eye on the plugin. Maybe it indicates disk overs or something else.

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