Needed Simplification in PIE Scheme

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ken p

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Oct 30, 2013, 1:15:14 PM10/30/13
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Each consonant when combined with vowels produces fifteen basic sounds.
Why not assign one diacritic symbol  per sound regardless of what letter it is along with schwa and silent letters? 
IPA: ə  ɑ: i  ɪː u uː æ e ai au o au: ən/ əm əh

Please give PIE Scheme examples showing one diacritic symbol per sound? 



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Ziyuan Yao

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Oct 30, 2013, 8:04:32 PM10/30/13
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No.


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ken p

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Oct 31, 2013, 3:49:42 PM10/31/13
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Then you may go through cycle of spellings reform forums who may not  agree on sounds or symbols.


On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:04:32 PM UTC-5, Ziyuan Yao wrote:
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On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:15 AM, ken p <drk...@gmail.com> wrote:
Each consonant when combined with vowels produces fifteen basic sounds.
Why not assign one diacritic symbol  per sound regardless of what letter it is along with schwa and silent letters? 
IPA: ə  ɑ: i  ɪː u uː æ e ai au o au: ən/ əm əh

Please give PIE Scheme examples showing one diacritic symbol per sound? 



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Jim Batley

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Mar 21, 2018, 12:23:51 PM3/21/18
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Happy to find your suggestion for improvement. Before I found PIE, I  envisioned using extra small numerals plus some easily distinguishable extra small caps and other special characters in the descender space beneath the baseline to give the non-default sound of the letter or associated diphthong. Arrow symbols would join other letters in the diphthong. Centered dot for silent letters. Vertical bars, full, partial, and broken, would indicate syllable boundaries and accent. The advantage over PIE would be the use of familiar symbols with established sort orders for lookup help tables, and the keeping of symbols in one space below the baseline. Could be implemented through a transformation of PIE logic and special font development. PIE looks good to me and I  encourage friends to use it.
Would appreciate feedback. My younger ESL friends often need encouragement.
I do not know that spelling reform is the full answer. Text to speech software can provide the true sound of text in context as would be spoken by a highly literate or highly intelligible speaker. Such sound could be coded below the text for presentation to those who desire it. The familiar printed form would be kept throughout. Spelling reform is a somewhat different issue than the issue of connecting for those who desire it the written and the spoken language.

Ziyuan Yao

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Mar 23, 2020, 12:49:03 PM3/23/20
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Hi,

Didn't use Google Groups for a long time and only found your message just now. I'm sure as the concept of PIE becomes more widely known, more schemes including ones like yours will come into being; many people suggest using IPA symbols too. As for text to speech, it's not perfect just like machine translation isn't, and the user has to be aware of that.
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