Help !!!!!!!!!!!!any Single woman left in this town?
treatedterribly
every person in the park is full of men. Out near Lansdale and in Kof P
the numbers are a tad better but whats with this town and area? Who
controls the pet standards? I mean immigration figures.? Doesn't this
spell more crime for future?
Krista L Pohl
treatedterribly (pleasan...@webtv.net) wrote:
: Every car I look at , every line I am in, every person I see jogging,
David Steuber
-> I am a single woman.
I'm within walking distance of West Chester State University. Some
students rent in my building. Oddly enough, I don't seem to get to
meet any of them.
Damn shyness at work here.
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SAJ7580C2 | a hoploholic.
"O, reason not the need!"
-- King Lear
Parts that positively cannot be assembled in improper order will be.
MizGriz
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out and be shy together!
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David Steuber <tras...@david-steuber.com> wrote in message
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David Steuber
-> Well, Dave, I'm (relatively speaking) in your neighborhood! Shyness keeps
-> me in the castle<ggg> 90% of the time. Give a shout some time and we'll go
-> out and be shy together!
Wow! That sounds like an invitation or something.
Do you know where the Iron Hill Brewery is? (Gay and High, what an
intersection :)
And for all those eavesdroppers, I have my very own lame web page:
My hair is a little shorter right now. I take hedge trimmers to it
from time to time. I also haven't been maintaining the site lately.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
SAJ7580C2 | a hoploholic.
"O, reason not the need!"
-- King Lear
Fortune's graffito of the week (or maybe even month):
Don't Write On Walls!
(and underneath)
You want I should type?
Krista L Pohl
with.
-Krista
The Tetrad
>I will help you find a girlfriend, if you find me a great guy to hang out
Look! Krista is back! :-) We'll make David S. behave from now on so that
you'll keep posting! :-)
Dinara, the garlic QUEEN*
Sustainable agriculture takes root with your support! <*>
*1999 Philadelphia Harvest Show results:
Horticultural Excellence Award for Baskets: Garlic Basket featuring 11 Varieties
Horticultural Excellence Award for Vegetables & Fruits: Garlic, Single Variety
"If you understand the uses of garlic, you understand 50% of all herbal medicine."
--Stephen Foster
Ray Greenberg
wrote:
>I will help you find a girlfriend, if you find me a great guy to hang out
>with.
>
>-Krista
Or, YOU could be his girlfriend.
Ray Greenberg
The Tetrad
>Or, YOU could be his girlfriend.
Ray! What did we all agree about *not* scaring Krista off again! ;-)
And some folks wonder why we don't get any new blood around here! ;-)
Krista L Pohl
-Krista
Krista L Pohl
So, you think you need a girlfriend? Will you take anyone, or do
you have preferences?
I am going to share a little something with you, and I hope that it
will help. I used to think that I needed a boyfriend. I am a college
student, so it appears to me that everyone has someone, and I don't.
Then, I realized, that I have me. Everyone else who thinks that they
have found someone great doesn't have me. That is their loss. I am a
young, so I figure that I will find someone some day. And, if I don't,
then I guess that it wasn't in the cards for me. But, I spend so much
time enjoying life-learning, family, friends, that I hardly ever notice
when that I don't have a boyfriend.
So, my advice is to enjoy things that make you happy, and if you
look happy, girls will come to you. Most of my friends don't agree with
my philosophy, and they think that I am picky (this could be true.)
However, out of all of them, single or attached, I am the happiest and
always have a smile on my face! :-)
-Krista
PS: If you need a friend, I am here to chat.
David Steuber
-> Don't worry, I wasn't scared away. I am still here!
Hello, Krista!
Do you like scary movies? ;-)
I _still_ want to know why girls act so startled when they nearly bump
into me when walking around a corner. It really gets a guy down when
they yelp.
I was in college once. No, twice. I still have nightmares about
failing history. I hated early morning classes.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
SAJ7580C2 | a hoploholic.
"O, reason not the need!"
-- King Lear
H. L. Mencken suffers from the hallucination that he is H. L.
Mencken -- there is no cure for a disease of that magnitude.
-- Maxwell Bodenheim
David Steuber
-> I will help you find a girlfriend, if you find me a great guy to hang out
-> with.
Please define 'great'.
Look! I have my own domain! Weee!
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
SAJ7580C2 | a hoploholic.
"O, reason not the need!"
-- King Lear
The truth is what is; what should be is a dirty lie.
-- Lenny Bruce
David Steuber
-> Look! Krista is back! :-) We'll make David S. behave from now on so that
-> you'll keep posting! :-)
I knew I shouldn't have given out my phone number! ;-)
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
SAJ7580C2 | a hoploholic.
"O, reason not the need!"
-- King Lear
Slowly and surely the unix crept up on the Nintendo user ...
Cheezits
> kp...@red.seas.upenn.edu (Krista L Pohl) writes:
> -> I will help you find a girlfriend, if you find me a great guy to hang out
> -> with.
> Please define 'great'.
And then he provides his own definition:
> http://www.david-steuber.com
>
> Look! I have my own domain! Weee!
The things some people will do for geek points!
> David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
> SAJ7580C2 | a hoploholic.
Okay, I give up. What's a hoploholic?
Sue
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David K.
<chee...@netaxs.com> writes:
>On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, David Steuber wrote:
>> kp...@red.seas.upenn.edu (Krista L Pohl) writes:
>> -> I will help you find a girlfriend, if you find me a great guy to hang
>out
>> -> with.
>> Please define 'great'.
>
>And then he provides his own definition:
But for his purposes Krista's definition may be more important. I must
admit that if any woman gave a definition of a "great guy" that I seemed
to meet better than most other guys, then I would certainly contact her
(unless, of course, she was equally close to my definition of "nightmare
woman from hell").
But I guess that is a big problem with using vague terms such as "great
guy" -- only your closest friends would have any idea of what you are
talking about. Turning things around, most of the women that my friends
describe as "hot babes" don't much interest me, while they for the most
part completely fail to notice the women who prompt in me the thought
of "Stop drooling before she realizes what a pig you are!" ;)
David "Kaviyd"
Reading mail from me in a Usenet group does not grant you the
right to send me unsolicited commercial e-mail. All senders of
unsolicited commercial e-mail will be reported to their postmasters
as Usenet abusers.
LdyGuique
I can only speak for myself; however, for me, a "great guy" has to be older,
have a great sense of humor (to the point of irritation), flexibility,
tolerance, quick wits, deep thoughts--and oh yeah, gropey hands with the
desire to followthrough. I don't really care about looks all that much, but
twinkling eyes that reveal the person and a ready smile help a lot. In
otherwords -- a warm, fun, sensual man.
LdyG
"David K." <kav...@aol.comxyzzy> wrote in message
news:19991204152718...@ngol06.aol.com...
David Steuber
-> > Please define 'great'.
->
-> And then he provides his own definition:
Not a definition, just some info that might reveal something about me,
or not.
-> The things some people will do for geek points!
Yeah. I run Linux too :-)
-> Okay, I give up. What's a hoploholic?
That is a complicated question. There are actually two different
answers, depending on your point of view. I will give both.
The politically correct definition is 'gun nut', ie someone who owns
more than zero guns. The media, statists, and just plain naive like
to vilify such persons for simply exercising a Constitutionaly
protected individual right.
The real definition is 'gun collector'. I enjoy shooting and seem to
spend more money on ammunition than food.
I follow some other forums on usenet. One of them is rec.guns. It is
another friendly newsgroup like this one. The difference is, people
talk about gun related stuff instead of personal related stuff. That
news group is moderated, so spam is non-existant. Off topic posts get
directed elsewhere, most commonly talk.politics.guns, a very busy and
not so friendly news group.
A couple of derogative terms have sprung up on t.p.g. One is
'gunloon' that is often used to refer to people like me. The other is
'hoplophobe' to refer to anti-gun people. I do not know the
derivation of the root, but I decided to exercise my own political
license, as well as levity, and coined the word 'hoploholic'.
Now don't be scared ;-)
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
SAJ7580C2 | a hoploholic.
"O, reason not the need!"
-- King Lear
Remember that whatever misfortune may be your lot, it could only be
worse in Cleveland.
-- National Lampoon, "Deteriorata"
David Steuber
-> I can only speak for myself; however, for me, a "great guy" has to be older,
-> have a great sense of humor (to the point of irritation), flexibility,
-> tolerance, quick wits, deep thoughts--and oh yeah, gropey hands with the
-> desire to followthrough. I don't really care about looks all that much, but
-> twinkling eyes that reveal the person and a ready smile help a lot. In
-> otherwords -- a warm, fun, sensual man.
Well, I am young. At least I like to think that I am. I know that I
am younger than you. I do have humor. Some people do find it
irritating. I am very flexible and tolerant. My wits are of variable
speed, including 'quick', 'slow', 'frappe'. They also have various
brightness levels ranging from dim to not so dim. I also have those
thought things, but they don't have a depth gauge.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
SAJ7580C2 | a hoploholic.
"O, reason not the need!"
-- King Lear
Magnocartic, adj.:
Any automobile that, when left unattended, attracts shopping
carts.
-- Sniglets, "Rich Hall & Friends"
LdyGuique
> "LdyGuique" <LdyG...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>
> Well, I am young. At least I like to think that I am. I know that I
> am younger than you. I do have humor. Some people do find it
> irritating. I am very flexible and tolerant. My wits are of variable
> speed, including 'quick', 'slow', 'frappe'. They also have various
> brightness levels ranging from dim to not so dim. I also have those
> thought things, but they don't have a depth gauge.
>
the blinking eyes, then nod -- jerk -- nod --then a soft snore escapes them.
When one gets really good at it, they slip into a coma. Genuine mastering of
the craft is noticeable when one can put an entire roomful of people to
sleep. This does require time and effort, though, and is not for the
faint-hearted.
This requires a careful balancing of humor and exceedingly boring topics
and/or ideas. If one starts crackin' wise at the wrong moment, "they" wake
up! And, you have to start all over again. The trick is telling jokes in
such a manner that no one realizes that they are funny. It helps to use
obscure literary, technical, and/or spiritual references. It takes a deft
touch to mix all three into one conversation; however, the impact is
immediately apparent. At the very least, people start murmuring things like,
"Yeah ..wellll....ummmm...." as they edge away from you.
Keep trying, a strong Unix-based conversation is definitely a plus!
LdyG :))
The Tetrad
>The real definition is 'gun collector'. I enjoy shooting and seem to
>spend more money on ammunition than food.
Oh, great! All we need is for David S and my cousin Ed to decide to have a
GTG at a local gun range. ;-)
The only reason my cousin Ed doesn't spend more on ammunition than food is
that he loves MREs too much! ;-)
I don't even want to know if you have an Uzi, too. . . but if you have have
any hunting bows, I have a nice spot here in Phoenixville with ENTIRELY too
many deer that need to be culled!
(Now, a vension dinner GTG, I could be talked into. . . ;-))
Don Melvin
wrote:
>
>Oh, great! All we need is for David S and my cousin Ed to decide to have a
>GTG at a local gun range. ;-)
Sounds like a fine idea to me! Count me in, too.
dste...@my-deja.com
garl...@pond.com (The Tetrad) wrote:
> Oh, great! All we need is for David S and my cousin Ed to decide to
have a
> GTG at a local gun range. ;-)
What does Ed like to shoot? I've been looking for a good outdoor range.
Atglen sounds like it may be the best in the area, but it is a bit of a
drive. But I am looking for something that allows long range shooting.
> I don't even want to know if you have an Uzi, too. . . but if you have
have
> any hunting bows, I have a nice spot here in Phoenixville with
ENTIRELY too
> many deer that need to be culled!
Actually, I _don't_ own anything made by UZI. I don't have any machine
guns. Those are for people with more money than I have. I do have a
suppressor that fits the AR-15/M-16. It works quite well. With the .22
adaptor made by Ciener, I can fire subsonic .22LR ammo without makeing
any noise beyond the action cycling and the bullet hiting the can.
I don't have any hunting bows either. Nor have I done any hunting. I
wouldn't know the first thing about dressing out a deer. I am hoping to
find someone to show me the ways of killing those beasts and preparing
them for eating.
> (Now, a vension dinner GTG, I could be talked into. . . ;-))
Me too! :-)
I saw a dead deer on the Blue Route on my way to work this morning. I
don't think we would want to cook that up though.
David Steuber on Deja.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Helix72
Guns don't kill people.
Bullets do.
Lord forgive me.
MizGriz
nut, collector, owner, and otherwise is a definite turn-off and no-way in my
book. Doesn't mean y'all aren't great people but it is a very BIG issue
with me. Interesting.
--
Bambi L. Geist, MLS
VerbatiWord
Transcribing the world a word at a time.
Don Melvin <d...@new-millennium.com> wrote in message
news:rpjm4ssjd6fbnis5h...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 06 Dec 1999 02:42:11 GMT, garl...@pond.com (The Tetrad)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Oh, great! All we need is for David S and my cousin Ed to decide to have
a
> >GTG at a local gun range. ;-)
>
Piero Sassu
enforcement officer.
Legal and proper ownership and usage of firearms is not the problem in
this country. The root of the problem is improper or lack of training,
illegal ownership and usage, etc. We have more "gun laws" on the books
than ever but they are not enforced. Mandatory sentencing guidelines are
thrown away like dirty diapers because we just don't have the room in
prisons for these people. It is very, very expensive to house people in
prison these days and the general public doesn't want to pay for new
prisons and support personnel.
We have a bigger problem with automobiles. Over 60,000 people are killed
every year by automobiles, that is more than the entire number of
soldiers killed during the Vietnam War. I don't see people "protesting"
to ban cars, reason being..."we need cars", or at least that is how it
is justified. The second amendment guarantees the people the right to
bear arms, (about the third sentence so don't flame me about the
militia, that is the first sentence). The ninth amendment states that
our other amendments shall not be "screwed" with. This constitution is
in place to protect the people from the tiereny of government among
other things. Not perfect, but it still protects all of us equally! A
lot of people have died protecting that important document.
I have been hunting, shooting and collecting since I was 12 years old. I
have shot compitition, taught hundreds of police, civilians and even
"children" gun safety, shooting and hunting. The unfortunate thing about
the sport is that is dying a slow death, that will be a great loss to
this country!
Piero
Don Melvin
wrote:
>OK, all you guys just showed me I probably really *am* way too picky.....gun
>nut, collector, owner, and otherwise is a definite turn-off and no-way in my
>book. Doesn't mean y'all aren't great people but it is a very BIG issue
>with me. Interesting.
Funny, it's one of my very big issues, too. :-)
The Tetrad
>What does Ed like to shoot? I've been looking for a good outdoor range.
>Atglen sounds like it may be the best in the area, but it is a bit of a
>drive. But I am looking for something that allows long range shooting.
I have no clue. All I know is that he is the proud owner of the O'Neill
family gun collection (passed down to him by his father) and he has added to
it through the years. When Ed is too old, the collection will be passed on to
Austin, his nephew (unless Brianna wants it, but I think she'll have too much
sense! ;-))
I printed out your message and will ask Ed about it when he gets home. I
suppose you go to all the gun shows in KoP, too. (The best days of Ed's life
are when the Valley Forge Convention Center is hosting both a gun show AND a
Trek convention.) You are both scary people and I am only thankful that I am
not related to *you*, too! ;-D
>Actually, I _don't_ own anything made by UZI. I don't have any machine
>guns. Those are for people with more money than I have.
Didn't get to travel overseas with the US Army, eh? That's how Ed got his.
> I do have a
>suppressor that fits the AR-15/M-16. It works quite well. With the .22
>adaptor made by Ciener, I can fire subsonic .22LR ammo without makeing
>any noise beyond the action cycling and the bullet hiting the can.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! Techie Gun Talk! (It's bad enough I hear
this stuff at home! ;-)) I'll show this paragraph to Ed and see what he says
-- I have only the faintest clue as to what you are talking about! ;-P
>I don't have any hunting bows either. Nor have I done any hunting.
My, my, we've been a suburbanite all our lives, haven't we? ;-) The only
reasons I ever learned to shoot was:
1) My dad would have coniption fits every time he saw a Western on TV where
there was terrible peril, so someone would throw the female lead a gun and
she'd look helpless and say "But I don't know how to shoot!" so the hero would
have to save her. "*YOU* are going to learn to shoot!" my dad would yell, (I
think I was about 3 when he first said this) "so that this never happens to
you!"
2) So that I could go hunting with family/friends, etc. Unfortunately, I was
a better shot than my high school boyfriend, so he wouldn't take me deer
hunting (rite of passage in Western PA! ;-))
> I
>wouldn't know the first thing about dressing out a deer.
It's not that hard. You just gut it out, let it hang a day or so, and then
take it to the butcher. There's a sweet little old Italian guy at my church
who dresses out deer for church members.
> I am hoping to
>find someone to show me the ways of killing those beasts and preparing
>them for eating.
Learn to bow-hunt (since we can't take guns to Fairview) and we'll talk.
>> (Now, a vension dinner GTG, I could be talked into. . . ;-))
>I saw a dead deer on the Blue Route on my way to work this morning. I
>don't think we would want to cook that up though.
Gosh, you *are* a suburbanite! ;-) I've eaten road-kill -- there are certain
signs that tell you if it's worth putting in your trunk or not.
(I *don't* believe I'm having this conversation! :-0)
Ray Greenberg
wrote:
>Didn't get to travel overseas with the US Army, eh? That's how Ed got his.
They...they let him KEEP it?!
Ray Greenberg
dste...@my-deja.com
Don Melvin <d...@new-millennium.com> wrote:
> Funny, it's one of my very big issues, too. :-)
So, are you for or against civil rights?
dste...@my-deja.com
garl...@pond.com (The Tetrad) wrote:
> dste...@my-deja.com wrote:
I
> suppose you go to all the gun shows in KoP, too. (The best days of
Ed's life
> are when the Valley Forge Convention Center is hosting both a gun show
AND a
> Trek convention.) You are both scary people and I am only thankful
that I am
> not related to *you*, too! ;-D
Scary? Aww Gosh! :-)
I've never been to a gun show, but I have gone to Dr Who conventions.
> My, my, we've been a suburbanite all our lives, haven't we? ;-)
For all intents and purposes, yes.
> > I
> >wouldn't know the first thing about dressing out a deer.
>
> It's not that hard. You just gut it out, let it hang a day or so, and
then
> take it to the butcher.
Is that all there is too it?
> >I saw a dead deer on the Blue Route on my way to work this morning.
I
> >don't think we would want to cook that up though.
>
> Gosh, you *are* a suburbanite! ;-) I've eaten road-kill -- there are
certain
> signs that tell you if it's worth putting in your trunk or not.
>
> (I *don't* believe I'm having this conversation! :-0)
My my. I'm the scary one, but you've eaten road kill! Now it that
isn't ironic then one of us is a red neck!
Are you reading this on a working computer that is sitting on top of a
broken computer? :-)
dste...@my-deja.com
Piero Sassu <n3...@worldlynx.net> wrote:
> I see a "gun" debate is brewing and I have to jump in, as a law
> enforcement officer.
I'll just add that everyone should take an NRA or equivilent gun safety
course, get a carry permit, and, if possible, get a nice gun to carry.
The more people who have permits, the better protected the right will
be. Having the permit doesn't require carry.
I wonder how things would have turned out if that reporter at the Wawa
was carrying. A gun usually beats a knife.
Cheezits
> <chee...@netaxs.com> writes:
> >On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, David Steuber wrote:
> >And then he provides his own definition:
Well, that's even more true for her own purposes. But I just had to give
him a hard time. :-) Everyone had their own definition.
> But I guess that is a big problem with using vague terms such as "great
> guy" -- only your closest friends would have any idea of what you are
> talking about.
Sometimes, not even them. On the other hand, anyone with access to
Dejanews can figure out what my definition is, because I used to post
personal ads every so often.
> Turning things around, most of the women that my friends
> describe as "hot babes" don't much interest me, while they for the most
> part completely fail to notice the women who prompt in me the thought
> of "Stop drooling before she realizes what a pig you are!" ;)
No accounting for taste!
Sue (no accounting for mine either)
Ray Greenberg
>My my. I'm the scary one, but you've eaten road kill! Now it that
>isn't ironic then one of us is a red neck!
>
>Are you reading this on a working computer that is sitting on top of a
>broken computer? :-)
Bet it's up on blocks. And in the front yard. :^)
Ray Greenberg
Ray Greenberg
>In article <qaio4s01r2fcshcip...@4ax.com>,
> Don Melvin <d...@new-millennium.com> wrote:
>
>> Funny, it's one of my very big issues, too. :-)
>
>So, are you for or against civil rights?
FIGHT!! FIGHT!!
I've got 5 bucks on Don!! :^)
Ray Greenberg
The Tetrad
>They...they let him KEEP it?!
Hey, Ed was the staff sergent for a nuclear demolition unit -- be happy that
nothing they ever retrieved ended up in the "US Army Surplus" Bin! ;-)
The Tetrad
>Scary? Aww Gosh! :-)
>
>I've never been to a gun show, but I have gone to Dr Who conventions.
Trek conventions are better -- at least they used to be. (Of course, Trek
used to be better than it is now -- and B5/Crusade rules, but with JMS on the
Net, who needs conventions? ;-))
>> >wouldn't know the first thing about dressing out a deer.
>>
>> It's not that hard. You just gut it out, let it hang a day or so, and
>then
>> take it to the butcher.
>
>Is that all there is too it?
Yep. It's very easy.
>My my. I'm the scary one, but you've eaten road kill! Now it that
>isn't ironic then one of us is a red neck!
Pooh. It's called "being frugal" rather than being a red neck. In Western PA
(and for those living next to Valley Forge National Park), it's not unusual at
all. Not PA Dutch, are you? ;-)
>Are you reading this on a working computer that is sitting on top of a
>broken computer? :-)
Oh please -- I paid off one of my techie friends to get the NEW computer going
by giving him the pieces of the old, broken one. It's the ultimate
milleniumal way of being frugal! ;-D
BTW, Ed's going to e-mail you directly about his gun preferences when he gets
the chance -- it's Christmas and he's in retail so his life is completely
crazy right now (stop snickering, Sam! ;-))
Wyat...@erols.com
I'll up the ante,10 bucks on Don
Piero Sassu
>
> In article <384BF613...@worldlynx.net>,
> Piero Sassu <n3...@worldlynx.net> wrote:
> > I see a "gun" debate is brewing and I have to jump in, as a law
> > enforcement officer.
>
> I'll just add that everyone should take an NRA or equivilent gun safety
> course, get a carry permit, and, if possible, get a nice gun to carry.
>
> The more people who have permits, the better protected the right will
> be. Having the permit doesn't require carry.
>
> I wonder how things would have turned out if that reporter at the Wawa
> was carrying. A gun usually beats a knife.
The final score would have been Good Guys 1, Bad Guys 0
The Tetrad
guns. . . .
>The final score would have been Good Guys 1, Bad Guys 0
That's it! The next time there's a gun show at the Valley Forge Convention
Center, I will post all the info so that you guys can go meet my cousin Ed
there and have a WONDERFUL time together. I think it will all do you a world
of good.
And I hope there's a quilting show at the same time so that Sue, the Lady G
and I can go off and have fun, too!
Don Melvin
>
>So, are you for or against civil rights?
>
"Civil rights" is one of those ambiguous terms that I don't think has
a consistant meaning.
I believe in the Constitution including the Bill of Rights. I just
wish observing them wasn't so subject to political and public whims.
I believe in equal rights.
I don't believe in hate crime laws, I believe that if someone
initiates harm against someone else I believe they should be punished
and we have many laws that already do that if they were just applied.
I believe in equal pay for equal work but I don't believe in minimum
wage laws. Some jobs are only worth $3 / hr.
I believe in charity but not welfare, though I do believe in
assistance for the medically unable and in public support for training
programs.
I'm pro-choice (and have marched for it), but I'm anti-abortion. If
anyone needs clarification on that, let me know and I'll elaborate.
I believe Ben Franklin was right when he said that those who are
willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither.
Anything else?
Jafd26
> Mandatory sentencing guidelines are
thrown away like dirty diapers because we just don't have the room in
prisons for these people. It is very, very expensive to house people in
prison these days and the general public doesn't want to pay for new
prisons and support personnel.
>
True. Thing is, there already are 1,300,000 citizens of the USA serving prison
sentences already - a number that's tripled in the past 20 years.
That's about 1 American in 220 behind bars - a ratio up there with Stalin's
Russia, Hitler's Germany, and apartheid South Africa - 5 to 10 times the
percentage of prisoners in the rest of the 'first world'.
The general public doesn't want to pay for health care, education, housing, of
decnt jobs, either.
Yours, John Desmond - jafd26@aoldotcom
The Tetrad
>Who indeed? I've got all the B5 episodes taped.
Oooo! I have to remember which ones I missed -- I know there are one or two!
Ed's been catching the repeats on TNT on Saturday mornings at 8. I've seen
the whole series (barring one or two) twice now and it's *still* awesome!
> I'm wishing they will come out on DVD.
You, JMS and my brother. You're all weenies! ;-)
>Got some of the movies. Unfortunatly, I
>haven't caught any of Crusade :-(.
Find it -- if you can. Crusade was amazing. I am *so* ticked at TNT for
canceling it -- these guys have no vision and no understanding of storytelling
*at all*! There was an ep on the topic of forgiveness that just blew me away
(and since I've *studied* theology, that's *very* hard to do!). But those
hacks at TNT were so freaked out by the subject matter that they told JMS
(sight unseen!) to "action it up." Thank goodness he refused.
I've learned more about how to write about spiritual/ethical/religous matters
from JMS and the writers of "Northern Exposure" (my other all-time favorite TV
show) than anyone else. Now, like Roger, if I could only force myself to sit
down and put pen to paper! ;-)
>I'm not even real Dutch. Didn't Jay Leno make some jokes about eating
>road kill?
Don't know -- I'm in agriculture -- *none* of us stay up late enough to catch
late night TV. (Although my mom loves Ted Koppel so much that she'll take a
nap and then get up to see him at night. If you knew my mother, you'd find
this completely hilarious! ;-))
Ray Greenberg
wrote:
>Find it -- if you can. Crusade was amazing. I am *so* ticked at TNT for
>canceling it -- these guys have no vision and no understanding of storytelling
>*at all*! There was an ep on the topic of forgiveness that just blew me away
>(and since I've *studied* theology, that's *very* hard to do!). But those
>hacks at TNT were so freaked out by the subject matter that they told JMS
>(sight unseen!) to "action it up." Thank goodness he refused.
While I practically worshipped B5 (except for the *VERY* disappointing
ending, which, because it was shot the year before, ignored all
developments of the lasat year), I never got into Crusade. Part of it
was that I always forgot to watch it when it was on (having fallen out
of the habit of tuning in B5 every--whatever time slot TNT kept moving
it around to); but also, I couldn't *stand* Galen. I'm sorry, but
Peter Woodward just made the character so--HAPPY all the time.
Nothing phased him. He seemed so SMUG.
Oh, and also, I didn't like the fact that they had the Dureena Nafeel
with ridges on her forehead in "A Call to Arms" and then dropped them
in the series. Very bad continuity. (All right, I KNOW that Delenn's
appearance changed between the B5 pilot and the series, but that was a
PILOT!!)
Ray Greenberg
The Tetrad
>While I practically worshipped B5 (except for the *VERY* disappointing
>ending, which, because it was shot the year before, ignored all
>developments of the lasat year),
David K. and I agreed that the gap between "Objects At Rest" and "Sleeping in
Light" was just too big -- there needed to be some explanation of what
happened to Centari Prime in the interval. Witness all the folks that ended
up asking JMS if Vir had a Keeper, for instance. . .
> I never got into Crusade. Part of it
>was that I always forgot to watch it when it was on (having fallen out
>of the habit of tuning in B5 every--whatever time slot TNT kept moving
>it around to); but also, I couldn't *stand* Galen. I'm sorry, but
>Peter Woodward just made the character so--HAPPY all the time.
>Nothing phased him. He seemed so SMUG.
I think a lot of that was the mixed-up order that TNT made JMS show the series
in -- he admitted that there was supposed to be more variation to Galen and
when you saw the later eps, it all made sense. The first 5 eps that JMS
wanted to show were *awesome* -- the TNT-aired first 7 were really too much
alike.
I think if TNT would air the eps again (as I wish they would because I missed
a few) in JMS' order, everything would make more sense.
>Oh, and also, I didn't like the fact that they had the Dureena Nafeel
>with ridges on her forehead in "A Call to Arms" and then dropped them
>in the series. Very bad continuity. (All right, I KNOW that Delenn's
>appearance changed between the B5 pilot and the series, but that was a
>PILOT!!)
"A Call to Arms" was a pilot, also --- it's considered the pilot for Crusade.
I don't know why they changed her ridges -- maybe they kept falling off with
all the physical stuff she had to do -- she was always squeezing herself into
small spaces and it may have just been too hard to keep the ridges on. . .
David Steuber
-> Anything else?
I think you've covered things pretty well. You'll get no criticism
from me.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
SAJ7580C2 | a hoploholic.
"O, reason not the need!"
-- King Lear
The light at the end of the tunnel is the headlight of an approaching
train.
David Steuber
-> Trek conventions are better -- at least they used to be. (Of course, Trek
-> used to be better than it is now -- and B5/Crusade rules, but with JMS on the
-> Net, who needs conventions? ;-))
Who indeed? I've got all the B5 episodes taped. I'm wishing they
will come out on DVD. Got some of the movies. Unfortunatly, I
haven't caught any of Crusade :-(.
-> Pooh. It's called "being frugal" rather than being a red neck. In Western PA
-> (and for those living next to Valley Forge National Park), it's not unusual at
-> all. Not PA Dutch, are you? ;-)
I'm not even real Dutch. Didn't Jay Leno make some jokes about eating
road kill?
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
SAJ7580C2 | a hoploholic.
"O, reason not the need!"
-- King Lear
Things are more like they used to be than they are now.
Peter Marvit
disappointed with Crusade. The first four years of B5 were superb overall,
and I completely agree the final episode was a collosal
disappointment. However, despite updated SFX, I found the Crusade series
to fall short of many of the high standards and expectations created by
B5.
If prodded, I'd be happy to make a detailed set of critiques, but I don't
wish to bore the great audience here. Yes, I know about most/all of the
TNT problems with Crusade and attempted to make allowances. Even with
production and scheduling issues, the underlying writing, acting,
continuity, etc. just was sub-par.
Mind you, I still watched the series and was generally
entertained. However, I put it in the same category as Earth 2, "Above,
Beyond, Over, Through" (or whatever that series was called), SG-1, and a
host of other second-tier Sci-Fi series. B5 as a whole, IMHO, set a gold
standard. However, to give a recent example, I would choose to watch
Farscape over Crusade.
-Peter "wishes to watch more quality TV" Marvit
: Dr. Peter Marvit <mar...@psych.upenn.edu>, Psychology Dept, Univ. of Penn :
: 3815 Walnut St., Philadelphia, PA 19104 w:215/898-3460 fax:215/898-3460 :
David Steuber
-> Piero Sassu <n3...@worldlynx.net> writes:
->
-> > Mandatory sentencing guidelines are
-> thrown away like dirty diapers because we just don't have the room in
-> prisons for these people. It is very, very expensive to house people in
-> prison these days and the general public doesn't want to pay for new
-> prisons and support personnel.
-> >
->
-> True. Thing is, there already are 1,300,000 citizens of the USA serving prison
-> sentences already - a number that's tripled in the past 20 years.
->
-> That's about 1 American in 220 behind bars - a ratio up there with Stalin's
-> Russia, Hitler's Germany, and apartheid South Africa - 5 to 10 times the
-> percentage of prisoners in the rest of the 'first world'.
->
-> The general public doesn't want to pay for health care, education, housing, of
-> decnt jobs, either.
And this is yours, curtesy of "The War On Drugs".
Just think, if drugs were legalized and treated like tobacco, the
government could collect huge revenues to pay for health care and
such. Also, the profit motive for street dealers would be yanked out
from under them as proper pharmaceutical companies could manufacture
and sell OTC under FDA guidelines. Why see a street thug when you can
go to the corner drug store?
It's a win-win situation. The only problem is, all those people who
support the drug war will have to admit that they are wrong.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
SAJ7580C2 | a hoploholic.
"O, reason not the need!"
-- King Lear
"Wagner's music is better than it sounds."
-- Mark Twain
b3ls...@gmail.com
> Guns don't kill people.
>
> Bullets do.
>
> Lord forgive me.
actually bullets don't either it's lag that does... and the projectiles.