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Jim Kriebel

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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http://web.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/05/23/magazine/SHIS23.htm


Cold front. It's all over for WPHL weatherguy Craig "Ironman" Weber.

Weber, who worked 114 days in a row after Julie Bologna left in July, was
told last week by management to look elsewhere, he confirmed yesterday. He
has no contract.

"I can't say much because my wife [Amanda] is five months pregnant and
I've got to keep working," says Weber, 47, who joined Channel 17 as a
part-timer in '96 after four years at KYW.

WB17 News at 10 news boss Rich Scott yesterday had no comment on Weber.
'PHL sources say the call came down from new general manager Leslie Glenn,
and may be the harbinger of more changes.

***********************************************************

Man - the guy works 114 days in a row and gets dumped? What the heck is
Channel 17 thinking?

Jim

Dave J.

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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<kriebel-2305...@netnews.upenn.edu> on Tue, 23 May 2000 08:26:20 -0400,

where kri...@nospam.obgyn.upenn.edu said:
>
>"I can't say much because my wife [Amanda] is five months pregnant and
>I've got to keep working," says Weber, 47, who joined Channel 17 as a
>part-timer in '96 after four years at KYW.
>
At least he had some quality time at home. :-)
Expecting a baby and looking for a new job -- at the same time? Wow! Big
challenges. Wish the guy good luck. I think his record of working 114 days in a
row will do more for him than any potentially snide comment someone at WB17
could possibly make during a reference check.

-dave

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hillary israeli

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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On 23 May 2000 23:18:06 -0700,<scoo...@newsguy.com> wrote:
*Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article
*<kriebel-2305...@netnews.upenn.edu> on Tue, 23 May 2000 08:26:20 -0400,
*where kri...@nospam.obgyn.upenn.edu said:
*>
*>"I can't say much because my wife [Amanda] is five months pregnant and
*>I've got to keep working," says Weber, 47, who joined Channel 17 as a
*>part-timer in '96 after four years at KYW.
*>
* At least he had some quality time at home. :-)
*Expecting a baby and looking for a new job -- at the same time? Wow! Big
*challenges. Wish the guy good luck. I think his record of working 114 days in a

I would like to say for the record that while I'm sure it is stressful to
look for work when your wife is pregnant, I personally believe it is far
more stressful to look for work when you yourself are pregnant. Take it
from one who has been there!

-h.

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Ssscold

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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Of course, the firing of Craig Weber raises the question of why news programs
even employ weather people. For years, Rob Jennings read the weather himself
during Action News weekend broadcasts. It was the same forecast as a weather
person would have given, only shorter, more to the point, and without all the
nonsense.

Liftwayts

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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I wonder what's up with this guy. He worked at KYW, doing the prime a.m. shows
and didn't last there. Then, he went to Channel 17 (seems there was a stop
between 3 and 17, but I could be wrong) and worked his way up from "weekends"
to "weeknights", only to be let go.
I can't help but wonder if the guy is difficult to work with.
I know I sent the guy an email several months back saying how I enjoyed his
work and style and asked a few questions only to be ignored. He never did
answer his email...which I have a problem with. These people should be expected
to have to answer their mail from viewers, not ignore it.
Anyway, guess we'll never find out the real reason Weber was let go.

Tviewr

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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>I sent the guy an email several months back saying how I enjoyed his
>work and style and asked a few questions only to be ignored. He never did
>answer his email...which I have a problem with. These people should be
>expected
>to have to answer their mail from viewers, not ignore it.

You can not possibly expect someone to respond to EVERY bit of unsolicited
email they receive. The guy isn't a major celebrity who can hire someone to do
it. Answering all email would probably be a full time job in itself. I guess he
should answer EVERY unsolicited letter he receives by regular mail, also.


L J Gould

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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Come on. How much e-mail from viewers do you think Weber gets? I would
bet less than 10 a day. That's peanuts. He could answer his mail.

Gould

Dave J.

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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<slrn8inrop....@unix3.netaxs.com> on 24 May 2000 15:02:50 GMT, where

hil...@hillary.net said:
>
>* At least he had some quality time at home. :-)
>*Expecting a baby and looking for a new job -- at the same time? Wow! Big
>*challenges. Wish the guy good luck. I think his record of working 114 days in a
>
>I would like to say for the record that while I'm sure it is stressful to
>look for work when your wife is pregnant, I personally believe it is far
>more stressful to look for work when you yourself are pregnant. Take it
>from one who has been there!
>
Is there something about the guy we should know, Hillary? Is he pregnant, as
well? ;-)

Dave J.

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<20000524190158...@ng-ce1.aol.com> on 24 May 2000 23:01:58 GMT,
where lift...@aol.com said:
>

>I know I sent the guy an email several months back saying how I enjoyed his


>work and style and asked a few questions only to be ignored. He never did
>answer his email...which I have a problem with. These people should be expected
>to have to answer their mail from viewers, not ignore it.

He may not have had access to the email account. It could have gone to a main
email account that was managed from the front office. That happens at some
companies. It's wrong, you're never told that, and a lot of people get the wrong
impression. Send a link to all the email accounts on the City of Philadelphia
site. Most of those accounts are receiving mail and the person has no idea how
to access the email. Tax dollars hard at work. The Free Library of Philadelphia
is horrible in this regard.

>Anyway, guess we'll never find out the real reason Weber was let go.

Probably not, unless he loosens his lips when he has a new job.

-dave

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RJ455

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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>I would
>bet less than 10 a day. That's peanuts. He could answer his mail.

Hey, it's not like he asked for people to correspond with him. Would it be nice
if he answered, sure, but we don't know what was going on in his life at that
time that he might not have been able to respond. I know there are times that I
read my mail, mean to get back to someone, and forget.
As far as you GUESSING he receives less than 10, do you know for sure or are
you arbitrarily pulling a number out of your a$$.


Bill Connors

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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It's true that he is one hard-working guy. I read where his hometown was in
Texas and that he used to fly home on weekends to see his family. Also read
that he's a black belt in karate. Maybe they're looking for a hometown
person, Craig Weber seemed competent enough delivering the forecast.
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hillary israeli

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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On 24 May 2000 23:40:07 -0700,<scoo...@newsguy.com> wrote:
*Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article
*<slrn8inrop....@unix3.netaxs.com> on 24 May 2000 15:02:50 GMT, where
*hil...@hillary.net said:
*>
*>* At least he had some quality time at home. :-)
*>*Expecting a baby and looking for a new job -- at the same time? Wow! Big
*>*challenges. Wish the guy good luck. I think his record of working 114 days in a
*>
*>I would like to say for the record that while I'm sure it is stressful to
*>look for work when your wife is pregnant, I personally believe it is far
*>more stressful to look for work when you yourself are pregnant. Take it
*>from one who has been there!
*>
*Is there something about the guy we should know, Hillary? Is he pregnant, as
*well? ;-)

Not as far as I know. It's just that well - I feel more sympathetic
towards the wife!

L J Gould

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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Don't worry about me guessing. I don't give a shit how many e-mails he
gets from viewers, he should answer his mail. He's only doing the
weather for 5 GD minutes a day. What else does the man have to do but
answer e-mail? For what they were paying him, he ought to come to your
house and pull your head outta your ass.

Gould

RJ455

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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>Don't worry about me guessing.

No need to worry, morons are not high on my list to worry about.

> I don't give a shit how many e-mails he
>gets from viewers, he should answer his mail.

Hey ghoul(d), I hate to break this to you, but what you think doesn't really
matter to a whole lot of people, myself included.

>He's only doing the
>weather for 5 GD minutes a day. What else does the man have to do but
>answer e-mail?

Maybe WB17 will release a copy of his contract and we can see exactly what they
were paying him for. Want to make a bet that answering mail was NOT in the
contract?

>For what they were paying him, he ought >to come to your
>house and pull your head outta your ass.

It's not my head up my ass, it's my foot up yours.

P.S. Why not try anger management, I have never met someone more qualified for
these classes?

Liftwayts

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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Hey Gould...I'm with you dude, the guy should answer his email!
He's a looser as far as I'm concerned. The way I feel, if I am taking the time
to write the guy, he SHOULD have give the courtesy of a reply.
I have to say, the news director, think his name is Rich Scott, always has
answered my emails (have only ever sent 2) and is a really nice guy! Matter of
fact, HE was the one who GAVE ME Webers email address because in my last email,
I mentioned/asked something regarding Weber and I was told to write Weber
directly with my compliment/question.
Like a said, Weber is a looser is far as I'm concerned. I have a real problem
with these TV-types, with their big salaries, who rudely ignore mail/email...

L J Gould

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Maybe you ought to take your own advice. You're
the one that got hostile in the first place. Your the one that wants to
put your foot up my ass. I know I got nothing to fear from you. I'd chew
you up and spit you out you little sis.

Gould

Bill Connors

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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I've noticed something about a lot of these newsgroup discussions. Sooner or
later they deteriorate into personal attacks and ultimately wind up on a
tangent. It must be something in our water!

L J Gould <lj...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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L J Gould

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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And what's in our water? Fluoride, Chlorine, Activated Carbon, Ferric
Chloride, Ferrous Sulfate, Ammonia, Lime, Zinc Orthophosphate, Potassium
Permanganate and probably a few more I can't remember. The Zinc
Orthophosphate made me do it. I can't speak for anyone else.

Gould

RJ455

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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> I know I got nothing to fear from you.

Ghoul(d), the only thing I fear from you is if you would bleed on me after I
wiped the street up with you.

Big deal, the guy didn't respond to an email and some people make it out to be
the crime of the century. Now that he is gone, what are you going to whine
about now, or are you going to gloat in someone's misfortune because of some
perceived snub? Get a life.

RJ455

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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> The way I feel, if I am taking the time
>to write the guy, he SHOULD have give the courtesy of a reply.

Hey, isn't this the same mentality as those hollywood stalkers?

>Matter of
>fact, HE was the one who GAVE ME Webers email address because in my last
>email,
>I mentioned/asked something regarding Weber and I was told to write Weber
>directly with my compliment/question.

Maybe Weber thought you were the lunatic you appear to be.

> I have a real problem
>with these TV-types, with their big salaries, who rudely ignore mail/email...

If you found some real friends maybe then you wouldn't be harrassing strangers.
Then again, I can see why you don't have real friends to correspond with.

RJ455

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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>It's just that well - I feel more sympathetic
>towards the wife!

Why, what happened to her?

hillary israeli

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On 26 May 2000 00:54:44 GMT,<rj...@aol.com.gov.org> wrote:
*>It's just that well - I feel more sympathetic
*>towards the wife!
*
*Why, what happened to her?

Her husband lost his job and she's pregnant. She's probably feeling the
stress more than he is! Heck, I can't even watch a Gap commercial without
bursting into tears. I practically had an emotional breakdown at the
Phillies game on Sunday - first because of joy over the grand slam, and
then because of anger at Jeff Brantley's pitching. If minor things like
this can destroy me (as well as most of the other pregnant women I've
known) I can't imagine how I would feel if my husband got fired.

Newsanchor3

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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>Her husband lost his job and she's pregnant. She's probably feeling the
>stress more than he is!

Isn't it funny that some women want all of the equal rights, but let something
go wrong, and we should pity the woman but not the man. You are right, he's
probably at the bar drinking up the last of his paycheck while she is worried
how they will pay the rent. Give me a break. Like he isn't feeling the pressure
of losing his job knowing that his wife is pregnant and he has obligations to
meet. I wouldn't want to give him a stress test right now. I feel sorry for
both of them, for I am sure that they are both feeling a lot of stress
nowadays.

Jake


Bill Connors

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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Look out Jake
Don't try arguing with a pregnant woman. Run now and save yourself!!!!

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Liftwayts

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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You're such a jack ass...you don't know me from adam.
Whatever...

hillary israeli

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On 26 May 2000 03:47:23 GMT,<newsa...@aol.com> wrote:
*>Her husband lost his job and she's pregnant. She's probably feeling the
*>stress more than he is!
*
*Isn't it funny that some women want all of the equal rights, but let something
*go wrong, and we should pity the woman but not the man. You are right, he's
*probably at the bar drinking up the last of his paycheck while she is worried
*how they will pay the rent. Give me a break. Like he isn't feeling the pressure
*of losing his job knowing that his wife is pregnant and he has obligations to
*meet. I wouldn't want to give him a stress test right now. I feel sorry for
*both of them, for I am sure that they are both feeling a lot of stress
*nowadays.

You're being unfair, and reading into my post things which were not said.
I'd never dream of saying one should always pity the woman and not the
man. But pregnant women are physiologically different from non-pregnant
women and from men, and the pregnancy hormones have HUGE effects on
emotional state. I'm not expecting you to understand, as I certainly never
understood it before either! If she were not pregnant, I would think the
stress would be worse for the husband who lost the job. But since she is
pregnant and therefore physiologically prone to wild swings of emotion,
she's probably feeling it more. Take a look at the
hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis some time, you'll see what I mean.

L J Gould

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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I see you know nothing about TV news personalities. It is no misfortune
for him to lose his weather job at 17. The guy lost his job at 3 then I
saw him on channel 9 in NY the very next week. Then the next thing you
know he was at 17. This is a fact of life for these people. If they get
to stay awhile all the better for them. This goes on all the time. If he
was any good he'd stick for a while. Don't cry any tears for Craig
Weber. The guy should answer his e-mail.
Maybe he's a sissy ass like you and can't take being abused. Get over
it.
Wipe the street up? What a laugh. Hahahahahaha

Gould

Ssscold

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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<< It is no misfortune
for him to lose his weather job >>


Well, well, aren't you one bad-ass motherf...... If you ever lose your job
someday, I only hope someone tells you it's no misfortune.

Is it expected in his industry? Absolutely. But if you think that makes it
any easier to accept, or that it enables you not to worry about how you're
going to pay your bills, I think it's you who's a little out of touch with
reality.

Getting fired hurts, period. Wondering how you're going to pay your bills is
very real, period. Get with it, fella.

Dave J.

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<slrn8irlrv....@unix3.netaxs.com> on 26 May 2000 01:46:39 GMT, where

hil...@hillary.net said:
>
>*Why, what happened to her?
>
>Her husband lost his job and she's pregnant. She's probably feeling the
>stress more than he is! Heck, I can't even watch a Gap commercial without
>bursting into tears. I practically had an emotional breakdown at the
>Phillies game on Sunday - first because of joy over the grand slam, and
>then because of anger at Jeff Brantley's pitching. If minor things like
>this can destroy me (as well as most of the other pregnant women I've
>known) I can't imagine how I would feel if my husband got fired.
>
>-h.
Glad my ex was never like that during any of her three pregnancies.

-d

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Dave J.

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<slrn8iq7oi....@unix3.netaxs.com> on 25 May 2000 12:39:46 GMT, where

hil...@hillary.net said:
>*Is there something about the guy we should know, Hillary? Is he pregnant, as
>*well? ;-)
>
>Not as far as I know. It's just that well - I feel more sympathetic
>towards the wife!
>
>-h.
Oh! OK. hehe ... just making sure.

L J Gould

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May 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/27/00
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I think mr. SSscold you are not in touch with today's business
environment. Folks jump from job to job to job all the time. As it turns
out one typically can make more money by doing just this. In the end Mr.
Weber may wind up being fortunate that 17 dumped his sorry butt. He may
get something better. He may not. It's not the end of the world. People
lose their jobs everyday. That is, the average blue collar guy loses his
job everyday and he just picks himself up and goes forward. He doesn't
have the golden parachute. You need not worry about Mr. Weber. He will
be just fine. Save your concern for the people that truly need your
concern. Mr Weber is not one of them.

Gould

Ssscold

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May 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/27/00
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<< You need not worry about Mr. Weber. He will
be just fine. >>


How very nice of you to decide for people that losing their job is a positive
thing and that of all people to whom it happens, Weber is one for whom we
shouldn't feel sorry. Must be nice up there on the mountain, making all these
decisions.

<< I think mr. SSscold you are not in touch with today's business
environment. >>

Yeah, I guess I must be really out of touch: I'm self-employed (which you can
interpret as "can't find or keep a job") and I have companies - including
Fortune 500 companies - coming to me and asking me to take on projects for
them.

Yeah, really out of touch.

L J Gould

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May 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/27/00
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Will you cry if it all goes away? Or will you just pick yourself up and
go forward looking at life in the positive way we all know we should?
Whether Mr Weber will or will not ever work again is neither here nor
there to me. You and a few others on this group seem quite concerned
about his future. Maybe instead of talking you could start a Craig Weber
fund. After all his wife *is* pregnant. God only knows what will come of
this poor unfortunate child.
The question was, should he answer the unsolicited e-mail of his
viewers? I say yes. You may think otherwise. I think it makes for good
PR. Just like Mr Mendte participates in this group. It is good for him
for the most part. I'm sure he particiaptes because he likes to but it
doesn't hurt him professionally to do so. It wouldn't hurt Craig Weber
either.

Gould

Ssscold

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May 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/27/00
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<< You and a few others on this group seem quite concerned
about his future. >>


I don't give a damn about Weber's future. What concerns me is some bloodless
idiot like you coming in here and acting like losing your job is nothing - or
even a good thing. Where do you get off?

<< The question was, should he answer the unsolicited e-mail of his
viewers? >>

Is that the question? No, it's not: the question is your arrogance in
declaring his loss of a job "no big deal." Lose your job and then turn around
and tell me it's no big deal.


<< Just like Mr Mendte participates in this group. >>


Sorry, but Larry Mendte doesn't really "participate" in this newsgroup: he
responds, almost always defensively, when the company for which he works comes
under attack. He never initiates, never participates, never joins; all he does
is respond. Don't get so star-crossed that you can't see this distinction.

L J Gould

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May 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/27/00
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No need to show your lack of education. I haven't come in here and done
anything. I was here long before you showed up "here". If you don't like
what I have to say don't read. I'm no more an idiot than you are. You're
a smart person. I read here. I have my opinions. You have yours. We're
not investigating the JFK assination in this group. The facts and only
the facts m'am. Newsgroups are full of opinions. I read yours everyday.

I have lost jobs. Yes, initially it is traumatic but it is by no means
the end of the world. I know people that worked at the same job for 30
years and lost their job. That's misfortune. A weather guy losing a gig;
where he needs to put in 5 minutes on air and maybe a few hours at best
off air and gets paid more than a guy that works 8 hours per day bustin'
it; isn't going to break my heart. It matters not how many times you
tell me I should care. I don't. Get real, people lose all kinds of
things. A job is on the bottom of the list. Lose your wife or your
child/children or your mother or father. These are real loses. That's
what is wrong with America today. Everything is considered a traumatic
experience. Everything isn't. Losing your job, especially a gravy job
like being a weather man, isn't the end. It can be a beginning. These
people are like salesman, they get kicked out of one house and they make
a big sale in the next. It's the nature of the job.
As for Mr Mendte, as I said, it's good PR. I call it participation you
don't. He didn't hurt his standing with me "participating" in this
group. He could be like Craig Weber and say nothing at all.

Gould

Me

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"Bill Connors" <cra...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I've noticed something about a lot of these newsgroup discussions. Sooner
or
> later they deteriorate into personal attacks and ultimately wind up on a
> tangent. It must be something in our water!

Yup, its the impersonal nature of this medium that brings
out such hostility. Some people think they're hot shit just
because they can insult other people without seeing those
people face-to-face.

Joel M. Eichen

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"Me" <sr...@home.com> wrote:

Other people hit the SEND button, without thinking! It happens in real
life too, but you have a chance to redeem yourself before all hell
breaks loose!


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