To those of you who grew up in the Philly area, what
are your favorite restaurants in the Philly area that are
no longer in business?
In no particular order, a few of my favorites are:
Geno's, the fast food chain. I used to love their Sirloiner
burger. It had a very meaty flavor and it was always made
fresh. A friend of the family used to be a district manager
for Geno's. He would sometimes bring home a batch of
raw Sirloineer burgers and barbecue them for us. That
was some good eating!
When I was a kid growing up in the Northeast, there used
to be an Italian restaurant called "Italian Takeout" which
was on Bustleton Ave. It went out of business after it moved
to much bigger quarters. My mom would sometimes let us
order pizza or a steak from there. Their pizza was always
delivered hot and bubbly. I used to like their cheesesteaks
too. They would be delivered in a cardboard box along with
a serving of fries. The cheese would stick to the top of the
box sometimes.
There used to be a Jewish deli style restaurant on Philmont
Ave. in the far Northeast where my parents would take my
sister and I to eat frequently. I am not sure how long ago that
Barson's closed, but there's another similar restaurant by the
same name in NJ where Routes 70 and Kings Highway meet
that's quite good. I am not sure if these two places are related
in any way.
I also have fond memories of Horn & Hardarts at Large St.
and Cottmon Ave. That was a cafetaria type restaurant, not an
automat and they had the best cherry pie!
When I was little, I seem to recall that my mom used to take me
on the el down town and we would sometimes eat at a deli
called Bains, which I guess is the forerunner of the Bains delis
that are found in some food courts now. This Bains a cafeteria
type restaurant where you would stand in line and point to what
you want, then for each item, as I recall, the customer was given
a ticket. The tickets were then added up at the cash register at
the end of the line. Does anyone remember this place?
I also used to love getting a quick bite to eat at the Levis' hotdogs
on 6th Street near South when I lived down town some ten years ago.
Its a shame that place closed up. When I was a kid, Levis' opened
up a restaurant in the northeast near the Budco Orleans movies. That
place did a booming business. If I remember correctly, its an ice
cream store now.
Right across the street from that northeast Levis's was, for a short
time, a branch of Pat's Steaks of South Philly fame. That place was
terrible! Now, in the Roosevelt Mall, there's a Jim's Steaks which
is quite good. They even sell french fries, which is unlike the original
Jim's on South Street.
So what are your favorite old time Philly restaurants?
I remember the old Bain's very well. Bain's seemed like paradise, with
every deli item imaginable lined up in front of you. When the first mall
stand opened, it was a big disappointment - I don't think the menu had a
tenth of the selections the cafeteria offered. Now, of course, the mall
stands are all that is left, and I still haven't found another deli in
Philadelphia that can match the Bain's I remember.
I also went to Levis' many times and enjoyed their hot dogs, but I never
understood - or tried - the hot dog and fishcake combo for which they were
famous.
One of my favorite Philadelphia restaurants of all time was Frankie
Bradley's. I went there for years, and usually ate prime rib, which was
terrific there. I knew the restaurant was in trouble the last time I went
there and asked for prime rib, and was informed that they no longer had
prime rib on nights when the Forrest Theatre was dark. The restaurant
closed just a few months after that. Its space was later occupied briefly
by Hesch's, an attempt by Harry Jay Katz to recreate a New York Jewish
restaurant of days gone by; it didn't survive long, but it was fun while it
lasted.
Lunch at Arthur's Steak House (where Susanna Foo is now) was always a
treat. Their steak sandwich was nothing like a cheesesteak - it was simply
a steak served between two slices of bread.
Howard Rosenthal
Me wrote:
> To those of you who grew up in the Philly area, what
> are your favorite restaurants in the Philly area that are
> no longer in business?
>
> In no particular order, a few of my favorites are:
>
> ...There used to be a Jewish deli style restaurant on Philmont
> Ave. in the far Northeast where my parents would take my
> sister and I to eat frequently. I am not sure how long ago that
> Barson's closed, but there's another similar restaurant by the
> same name in NJ where Routes 70 and Kings Highway meet
> that's quite good.
>
> ...When I was little, I seem to recall that my mom used to take me
> on the el down town and we would sometimes eat at a deli
> called Bains, which I guess is the forerunner of the Bains delis
> that are found in some food courts now.
>
> ...I also used to love getting a quick bite to eat at the Levis' hotdogs
But what I really miss, even though it's not quite "old time" is Wildflowers on
4th Street just north of South Street. They absolutely had the best lobster
bisque I ever had (sorry, Georges) and that salad bar and breads...and the
duck with elderberry vinegar & ginger... I always wanted to know where
their head chef went...
Just for the record, they were Gino's, named after footballer Gino Marchetti.
Geno's was the restaurant in the 1600 block of Walnut.
Jimoran
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As for other old haunts, how about the Jewish vegetarian restaurant, The
Blintza, at Broad and Spruce? I ate there daily when working a summer office
job in the early 70's Great fake burgers w/ gravy. There wasn't a waiter
there under 85.
We also used to go to the John Bartram Hotel for Sunday dinners. Anyone
remember where? I think it was on south Broad.
Fortunately, my mom was a great menu collector. How about: The Coach
Inn, Ft. Washington: Da Vinci's on Walnut St.; The Open Hearth; Melrose
Park; Pete Retzlaff's Riverboat Room (somewhere on City Line?); and The Cock
and Bull in Lahaska.
Paul Meschter, Ex Officio, Culinary Society of Philadelphia
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In article <pWxw5.27895$AW2.4...@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com>, "Me"
<sr...@home.com> wrote:
> Hardly anyone posts anything in phl.food any more.
> That's too bad because the foodie scene in Philly offers
> much to talk about. As such, I thought I would start a
> new thread here.
>
> To those of you who grew up in the Philly area, what
> are your favorite restaurants in the Philly area that are
> no longer in business?
>
> In no particular order, a few of my favorites are:
>
> Geno's, the fast food chain. I used to love their Sirloiner
> burger. It had a very meaty flavor and it was always made
> fresh. A friend of the family used to be a district manager
> for Geno's. He would sometimes bring home a batch of
> raw Sirloineer burgers and barbecue them for us. That
> was some good eating!
>
> When I was a kid growing up in the Northeast, there used
> to be an Italian restaurant called "Italian Takeout" which
> was on Bustleton Ave. It went out of business after it moved
> to much bigger quarters. My mom would sometimes let us
> order pizza or a steak from there. Their pizza was always
> delivered hot and bubbly. I used to like their cheesesteaks
> too. They would be delivered in a cardboard box along with
> a serving of fries. The cheese would stick to the top of the
> box sometimes.
>
> There used to be a Jewish deli style restaurant on Philmont
> Ave. in the far Northeast where my parents would take my
> sister and I to eat frequently. I am not sure how long ago that
> Barson's closed, but there's another similar restaurant by the
> same name in NJ where Routes 70 and Kings Highway meet
> that's quite good. I am not sure if these two places are related
> in any way.
>
> I also have fond memories of Horn & Hardarts at Large St.
> and Cottmon Ave. That was a cafetaria type restaurant, not an
> automat and they had the best cherry pie!
>
> When I was little, I seem to recall that my mom used to take me
> on the el down town and we would sometimes eat at a deli
> called Bains, which I guess is the forerunner of the Bains delis
> that are found in some food courts now. This Bains a cafeteria
> type restaurant where you would stand in line and point to what
> you want, then for each item, as I recall, the customer was given
> a ticket. The tickets were then added up at the cash register at
> the end of the line. Does anyone remember this place?
>
> I also used to love getting a quick bite to eat at the Levis' hotdogs
> on 6th Street near South when I lived down town some ten years ago.
Does anyone remember Linton's Diner on Stenton Avenue? I remember going to
the Gaiety Restaurant on 15th Street with my Grandfather. They made an
excellent burger and great deli sandwichs. My family always went to the
hotel Tremont in Lansdale that had fabulous french food. I remember the
chef coming out to speak to the patrons of his restaurant. This was way
before the restaurant revival in the 70's.
Paul Meschter
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In article <39C3668F...@earthlink.net>, Judy Wilson
Howard Rosenthal
Ilona Morris
Oh right! I forgot about the Open Hearth. There used to be an Open Hearth
on Holm Circle on the Roosevelt Boulevard in the Northeast that was quite
good for steaks. My parents used to take my sister and me there frequently
for lunch or dinner. Now, I think that site is occupied by a Rite Aid.
I remember Linton's, but I don't remember it being on Stenton Avenue? Was
there more than one Linton's?
> The Gino's Giant which McDonalds ripped
> off as the Big Mac
Long before there was a Gino's Giant there was a Big Boy. HoJo's sold a
tripple decker too.
I worked new product development for McD's back in the late 60's and was in on
the development of the Big Mac - helped develop the secret sauce, came up with
the collar that kept the Big Mac from being crushed when wrapped with the foil,
and controlled/scheduled it's market by market introduction. The franchisee in
Pittsburgh started selling it (semi-authorized by McD's) as the Blue Ribbon
Burger. It did extremely well, so the corp took it over. I'm of the opinion
it was more the Big Boy that influenced McD's Big Mac (and, probably, the
Gino's Giant).
However, for a long time Gino's kicked McD's ass in terms of average store
sales. Back in the late 60's at least Gino's had the highest volume sales of
any fast food restaurant. Scared McD's enough to pretty much keep them out of
Gino's prime markets.
My final stop in my corporate career was as Account Supervisor for the Gino's
account - brought me to Philadelphia in the mid/late '70's. Seeing how much
Gino's had changed was a real shock. By then it was a losing battle. Too bad,
because at one time they were a great chain and owned the Philadelphia and
Baltimore ADI's.
Holly Moore
http://www.HollyEats.Com.
Karen
Judy Wilson (jswil...@earthlink.net) wrote:
: Does anyone remember Linton's Diner on Stenton Avenue? I remember going to
: the Gaiety Restaurant on 15th Street with my Grandfather. They made an
: excellent burger and great deli sandwichs. My family always went to the
: hotel Tremont in Lansdale that had fabulous french food. I remember the
: chef coming out to speak to the patrons of his restaurant. This was way
: before the restaurant revival in the 70's.
--
Karen Rile
kr...@dept.english.upenn.edu
Howard Rosenthal
>I worked new product development for McD's back in the late 60's and was in
>on
>the development of the Big Mac - helped develop the secret sauce, came up
>with
>the collar that kept the Big Mac from being crushed when wrapped with the
>foil,
>and controlled/scheduled it's market by market introduction. I'm of the
opinion
>it was more the Big Boy that influenced McD's Big Mac (and, probably, the
>Gino's Giant).
Holly, I wondered how long it would take for you to respond? :)
The diner on Cheltenham Avenue is Littleton's and it is still there. It is not
the same as the one that was on Stenton. There was a shooting there last year.
Judy
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DA66 <da...@aol.complete> wrote in message
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> >Dwayne Conyers suggested:
> >
> >> The Gino's Giant which McDonalds ripped
> >> off as the Big Mac
>
> >I worked new product development for McD's back in the late 60's and was
in
> >on
> >the development of the Big Mac - helped develop the secret sauce, came up
> >with
> >the collar that kept the Big Mac from being crushed when wrapped with the
> >foil,
> >and controlled/scheduled it's market by market introduction. I'm of the
> opinion
> >it was more the Big Boy that influenced McD's Big Mac (and, probably, the
> >Gino's Giant).
>
-bebopper
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:33:55 -0400, Ruth Savitz
<pose...@flashcom.net> wrote:
>I vaguely remember some 'rat hair (or other rat bit) in the burger" story
>contributing to Gino's downfall. Anyone else remember this, or is this a
>60's-induced pseudo-memory?
>
>Holly Moore wrote:
>
The story about Gino's that I remember is that in a bucket of chicken there was
a dead mouse or rat. I think I still have 2 coupons for 50 cents off the Gino
Giant. I think the date is 1976.
-bebopper
--dan
Aud (au...@home.com) wrote:
: Must've been the same story going around about all Gino's, since I recall
: DA66 wrote:
--
Karen Rile
kr...@dept.english.upenn.edu
Sounds like a localized slant on a very old urban legend:
http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/sleuth/legends/legend5.htm
Paige
DA66 wrote:
> >I vaguely remember some 'rat hair (or other rat bit) in the burger" story
> >contributing to Gino's downfall. Anyone else remember this, or is this a
> >60's-induced pseudo-memory?
>
> The story about Gino's that I remember is that in a bucket of chicken there was
> a dead mouse or rat. I think I still have 2 coupons for 50 cents off the Gino
> Giant. I think the date is 1976.
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In article <39C554E3...@flashcom.net>, Ruth Savitz
<pose...@flashcom.net> wrote:
> I vaguely remember some 'rat hair (or other rat bit) in the burger" story
> contributing to Gino's downfall. Anyone else remember this, or is this a
> 60's-induced pseudo-memory?
>
-bebopper
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:40:13 -0400, "Paul Meschter" <pm...@fast.net>
wrote:
>Aside from all the urban legend (my recollection was a fried rat in a Pgh.
>McDonalds in 1972),I still remember Gino's fondly and miss what used to be
>the best "fast food' around. Where was the first one? When did the last one
>close? How did it get the name Gino's? Did it deserve the same fate as
>Burger Chef and Hardee's? (Don't think so.) Holly Moore, have your archives
>available? Paul
>
>----------
>In article <39C554E3...@flashcom.net>, Ruth Savitz
><pose...@flashcom.net> wrote:
>
>
>> I vaguely remember some 'rat hair (or other rat bit) in the burger" story
>> contributing to Gino's downfall. Anyone else remember this, or is this a
>> 60's-induced pseudo-memory?
>>
>> Holly Moore wrote:
>>
More details in Thursday's Inquirer, though we might post the obit
sooner at www.inquirer.com
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
http://web.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/09/20/food/
If that doesn't work, check Thursday's Inquirer.
First Gino's - I think, but am not sure, that Gino's got it's start in
Baltimore.
The Name: It is named after former Baltimore Colts defensive great Gino
Marchetti
Last Gino's - Again, I think Mariott bought the Gino's chain with the intention
of making them into Roy Rodger's. Then Hardee's bought them from Marriott.
But it's all kinda hazy.
Fate - Gino's was slow in reinvesting and didn't seem to be able to keep their
restaurants as sparkling clean as McDonald's "USED" to. For a long time they
were also stingy with the advertising / marketing bucks. They also tied up too
much captial in the Rustler Steakhouse chain. All in all, Gino's pretty much
sealed its own fate.
Holly Moore
http://www.HollyEats.Com
Okay, I'm reading this having just returned home from the corner
pub at my new home in North London. I'm about to go to bed. But
it need be said that this saddens me more than anything since I
left home (grew up in Center City, graduated Penn in May.) He was
as much 'Philadelphia' as any individual I knew of growing up
downtown. As much if not far more so than a handful of Steins
and Starrs. I only went to LLdG 3 times: first, a magnificent date
with a girl I won't ever forget, second a marvelous family dinner
that was as memorable than as any of our evenings at Le Bec Fin
and maybe even La Truffe (RIP) and third a graduation dinner
when a friend from Penn desparately called 10 hours before the
fact begging for a rec for a restaurant that was open and ready
to take a party without reservations. Her family, from DC, still
makes the trip up here every now and then, two years later, to
catch a meal at LLdG, they enjoyed it so much. That's testimony.
Sorry for the ramble. RIP Giuseppe. His places have a special
place in my heart and my mind which I won't soon, if ever, forget.
Tom
darren
-bebopper
> It WAS Dewey's. Where Xando is now at 15th and Locust.
>
Wasn't a scene from 'Witness' shot there?
Jim
mkl...@phillynews.com wrote:
> The irascible Giuseppe of La Locanda del Ghiottone and Il Cantuccio
> died early Tuesday morning of a heart attack. He was 51. Family and
> friends intend to keep the restaurants open, though they're closed now.
>
> More details in Thursday's Inquirer, though we might post the obit
> sooner at www.inquirer.com
>
> mkl...@phillynews.com wrote:
> : The irascible Giuseppe of La Locanda del Ghiottone and Il Cantuccio
> : died yesterday of a heart attack. He was 51. Family and
> : friends intend to keep the restaurants open, though they're closed now.
>
>
> Okay, I'm reading this having just returned home from the corner
> pub at my new home in North London. I'm about to go to bed. But
> it need be said that this saddens me more than anything since I
> left home (grew up in Center City, graduated Penn in May.) He was
> as much 'Philadelphia' as any individual I knew of growing up
> downtown. As much if not far more so than a handful of Steins
> and Starrs. I only went to LLdG 3 times: first, a magnificent date
> with a girl I won't ever forget, second a marvelous family dinner
> that was as memorable than as any of our evenings at Le Bec Fin
> and maybe even La Truffe (RIP) and third a graduation dinner
> when a friend from Penn desparately called 10 hours before the
> fact begging for a rec for a restaurant that was open and ready
> to take a party without reservations. Her family, from DC, still
> makes the trip up here every now and then, two years later, to
> catch a meal at LLdG, they enjoyed it so much. That's testimony.
>
> Sorry for the ramble. RIP Giuseppe. His places have a special
> place in my heart and my mind which I won't soon, if ever, forget.
>
My sentiments exactly. The other sad and shocking fact is he was only
51. I'll be 51 in 2 months.
--
Karen Byrd
Charlie B.
Me wrote:
>
> "Judy Wilson" <jswil...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:39C3668F...@earthlink.net...
> >
> > Does anyone remember Linton's Diner on Stenton Avenue? I remember going
> to
> > the Gaiety Restaurant on 15th Street with my Grandfather. They made an
> > excellent burger and great deli sandwichs. My family always went to the
> > hotel Tremont in Lansdale that had fabulous french food. I remember the
> > chef coming out to speak to the patrons of his restaurant. This was way
> > before the restaurant revival in the 70's.
>
> I remember Linton's, but I don't remember it being on Stenton Avenue? Was
> there more than one Linton's?
Aud wrote:
>
> Must've been the same story going around about all Gino's, since I recall
> the same story about one in Wayne (fried rat parts).
>
> DA66 wrote:
>
> > >I vaguely remember some 'rat hair (or other rat bit) in the burger" story
> > >contributing to Gino's downfall. Anyone else remember this, or is this a
> > >60's-induced pseudo-memory?
> >
The Big Mac was invented in Uniontown, PA.
> The Big Mac was invented in Uniontown, PA.
Actually the Blue Ribbon burger and not the Big Mac would have been invented
there if that's the first place the Pittsburgh franchisee (Tom Delagatti or
something like that) started testing double decker hamburgers.
It became the Big Mac when McDonald's corporate took it over.
Holly Moore
http://www.HollyEats.Com
That's what they claim. Actually Mc D's had a parade a few years back to
celebrate the anniversary.