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Schneider, Edward (MNIT)

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May 3, 2018, 2:38:03 PM5/3/18
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I thought I'd pass the following along, as I found it illuminating on the currency (or lack of it) in keystore encryption/related matters in the PHINMS versions available, as well as those released and retracted (meaning v. 3.0).  The article's conclusion specifies the release and update levels for Java and Bouncy Castle where the flaws discussed in the article have evidently been addressed.  The JDK used in both PHINMS v. 2.9.00 and 3.0 is (was) JDK 7u80, and the Bouncy Castle version, 1.36--each significantly behind current developments.


http://wp.internetsociety.org/ndss/wp-content/uploads/sites/25/2018/02/ndss2018_02B-1_Focardi_paper.pdf


I have provided the reference to PHINTECH with the request that it be passed to the PHINMS 3.0 developers and to Jannie Williams.  Perhaps they're also aware of the IETF's formal standards release for TLS v. 1.3 in March...


Edward A. Schneider
Information Technology Specialist/Middleware Administration | Application Data Services Unit

Minnesota IT Services | Partnering with Minnesota Department of Health
625 North Robert St.
P.O. Box 64975
St. Paul, MN 55164-0975
O: 651-201-4047
Information Technology for Minnesota Government | mn.gov/mnit


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Hi Edward.S...@state.mn.us,
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Welcome, Edward! Cheers, --Dave L.

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Bruce Riddle

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May 3, 2018, 2:51:48 PM5/3/18
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Hello,
    Monday,  May 1st,  PHIN MS support released to me version 3.1 for testing.  It came up,
talks to SQL 2017.  There is a problem right in that PHIN MS is leaving the payload
decrypted. in the SHARED/Incoming folder.   One thought is that the corresponding
SQL table is not configured correctly.  They were built in 2007.    
   I will provide more detail as testing continues.  Somebody has to be first.

B

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Schneider, Edward (MNIT) <edward.s...@state.mn.us> wrote:
I thought I'd pass the following along, as I found it illuminating on the currency (or lack of it) in keystore encryption/related matters in the PHINMS versions available, as well as those released and retracted (meaning v. 3.0).  The article's conclusion specifies the release and update levels for Java and Bouncy Castle where the flaws discussed in the article have evidently been addressed.  The JDK used in both PHINMS v. 2.9.00 and 3.0 is (was) JDK 7u80, and the Bouncy Castle version, 1.36--each significantly behind current developments.


http://wp.internetsociety.org/ndss/wp-content/uploads/sites/25/2018/02/ndss2018_02B-1_Focardi_paper.pdf


I have provided the reference to PHINTECH with the request that it be passed to the PHINMS 3.0 developers and to Jannie Williams.  Perhaps they're also aware of the IETF's formal standards release for TLS v. 1.3 in March...


Edward A. Schneider
Information Technology Specialist/Middleware Administration | Application Data Services Unit

Minnesota IT Services | Partnering with Minnesota Department of Health
625 North Robert St.
P.O. Box 64975
St. Paul, MN 55164-0975
O: 651-201-4047
Information Technology for Minnesota Government | mn.gov/mnit


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Hi Edward.S...@state.mn.us,
Dave Loyall added you to the PHINMS User Community group.
Message from Dave Loyall

Welcome, Edward! Cheers, --Dave L.

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Schneider, Edward (MNIT)

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May 3, 2018, 3:12:30 PM5/3/18
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Actually, I incremented the JDK update used for the PHINMS versions 2.9.00 and 3.0; I should have written JDK 7u79, the last Java 7 version released to the general public.  (For some obscure reason the PHINMS developers put a ceiling on the Java version initially usable with the PHINMS console, as released for Windows.)


Edward A. Schneider
Information Technology Specialist/Middleware Administration | Application Data Services Unit

Minnesota IT Services | Partnering with Minnesota Department of Health
625 North Robert St.
P.O. Box 64975
St. Paul, MN 55164-0975
O: 651-201-4047
Information Technology for Minnesota Government | mn.gov/mnit


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Schneider, Edward (MNIT)

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May 3, 2018, 3:30:11 PM5/3/18
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One further remark on Java within PHINMS:  the version PHINMS is using won't necessarily show up on the Windows listing of installed programs.  The PHINMS JDK version can be obtained by using a command prompt, cd'ing to the <PHINMS_installation_folder>\jdk\bin, and running the command java.exe  -version.  I suspect that the version 3.1 just released for testing did not change the JDK being used; the reason for retraction of 3.0 had to do with the SQL Server connection pool.  (In any event, good luck to Mr. Riddle in pursuing PHINMS 3.1 testing.)


Edward A. Schneider
Information Technology Specialist/Middleware Administration | Application Data Services Unit

Minnesota IT Services | Partnering with Minnesota Department of Health
625 North Robert St.
P.O. Box 64975
St. Paul, MN 55164-0975
O: 651-201-4047
Information Technology for Minnesota Government | mn.gov/mnit


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