Cape May Dyno - what's the plan

[Andrea Mules]

Hey folks!

Can I be annoying and ask if there's a date for the Cape May Dyno this year yet? I'm co-leading the Womens 100 series for WBPHL (a terrible name but the rides are open to all WTF riders) so I want to get Cape May Dyno on my calendar too, and hope there isn't a overlap in dates (the Rapha 100k ride that the WBPHL group is leading a series up to doing is Sept 15th to Tabora, so in my perfect world, Cape May Dyno is Sept 22 or 29).

CJ mentioned that the DC 400K is on the 29th.

so.....tell me what the plan is, friends

thanks!

Andrea

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[Greg Biché]

I would like to second this request. I am currently available for any Friday-night-into-saturday or saturday-night-into-sunday in September. My preference would. be friday into saturday but its not a strong preference. Saturday night is fine too.

Part of the reason I'd like to nail down the date sooner than later is that i might want to book a campsite. Or at the very least make some kind of arrangement for a place to take a shower, store bikes, whatever, so that i (and anyone who wants to join me) can relax and enjoy the beach for a while befofe heading back to AC to catch a train.
Does anyone have a friend or coworker or relative or neighbor with a house down there? can we pay them to let us use it for a day or so?

i havent made any concrete plans yet and i would welcome any suggestions or ideas. Im so excited for the ride!! cant wait

[Gary Wilpizeski]

My vote is the 29th, as the 22nd is Town Hall CX (although I don't know how many people here are racing cross, so if I'm the only one with that scheduling conflict, that's fine), but I could do either.  I'm also open to doing a Friday -> Saturday ride this year as well!

[Andrea Mules]

Also by no means does the ride need to be scheduled around my schedule (which prefers 22 or 29)!

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[CJ Arayata]

My vote is either Friday, 21st into Saturday, 22nd, or Sat 22nd into Sun 23rd. I have zero preference but that weekend works best for me..... DC 300k the weekend before, and DC 400k the weekend after.

Once we decide, can someone take charge with a quick flyer? I want to push out to PA and NJ Rando, and maybe even on ::gasp:: the 'gram.

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[Brendan Detweiler]

David and I are doing GAP / C&O that weekend! Have fun!

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[Charles Sarkioglu]

Hello folks,

I look forward to the pleasure of another incredible overnight ride to the shore with you fine people.  For me, the Saturday into Sunday itinerary works best.  Given the suggested dates, Saturday 9/22 into Sunday 9/23 would be most preferable.  I could be open to a different weekend if suggested. 

Be well,

~Charlie 

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[Nicholas Manta]

Hey y'all,

Ag and I can't do the weekend of the 22nd-23rd so were gonna vote for the 29-30th.  CJ are you planning on doing the DC 400k?

-Nick

[Natalie Felice]

classic mantas 

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[CJ Arayata]

I'd like to do the DC 400 and 600 to get early registration for PBP, but I could theoretically do the 300 and jump straight to the 6. Cape May rules everything around me, plus it'll be way more fun than a 400 anyway...

I'll tally the official votes/emails before we set-set the date.

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[Greg Biché]

either weekend is fine with me. like i said earlier i like Friday into Saturday but Saturday unto Sunday is fine too. i wouldnt wanna ride without my manta biys so i guess my official vote is friday the 28th

[CJ Arayata]

OK, I officially decree that Cape May Dyno will be the weekend of September 28th - 30th.

Now, who has strong preferences for Fri-Sat or Sat-Sun? I am voting for Friday into Saturday, so that way when I zonk out on Saturday I still have a whole day Sunday to roll around.

As it stands:
Fri (Greg, CJ)
Sat (Charlie)
Either (Gary)

Cast your votes now!

[Scott B. Ritner]

I prefer Sat-Sun. I prefer to do my rolling around in advance so I don't have to think about any of it while we ride.

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[Andrea Mules]

I can do either - if it's Friday I just need to know sooner rather than later so I can take off work to sleep all day so I don't cry outside of Wawa at 4am again.

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[Gary Wilpizeski]

I prefer Sat-Sun

On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 11:56:51 AM UTC-4, sritner wrote:

I prefer Sat-Sun. I prefer to do my rolling around in advance so I don't have to think about any of it while we ride.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:54 AM CJ Arayata <charles...@gmail.com> wrote:

OK, I officially decree that Cape May Dyno will be the weekend of September 28th - 30th.

Now, who has strong preferences for Fri-Sat or Sat-Sun? I am voting for Friday into Saturday, so that way when I zonk out on Saturday I still have a whole day Sunday to roll around.

As it stands:
Fri (Greg, CJ)
Sat (Charlie)
Either (Gary)

Cast your votes now!

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[Ross Evans / Brewerytown Bicycles]

I have off Friday/Saturday so that’s my vote

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:59 AM Gary Wilpizeski <gary.wi...@gmail.com> wrote:

I prefer Sat-Sun

On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 11:56:51 AM UTC-4, sritner wrote:

I prefer Sat-Sun. I prefer to do my rolling around in advance so I don't have to think about any of it while we ride.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:54 AM CJ Arayata <charles...@gmail.com> wrote:

OK, I officially decree that Cape May Dyno will be the weekend of September 28th - 30th.

Now, who has strong preferences for Fri-Sat or Sat-Sun? I am voting for Friday into Saturday, so that way when I zonk out on Saturday I still have a whole day Sunday to roll around.

As it stands:
Fri (Greg, CJ)
Sat (Charlie)
Either (Gary)

Cast your votes now!

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[Brendan Detweiler]

Sat-Sun is my vote. We can still hit up velo fest Saturday morning

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[Natalie Felice]

I vote fri-sat!

[Jake Kenney]

Fri-Sat! Will prolly be taking the cape may lewes ferry to see my parents in Rehoboth. Can’t guarantee a ride back from there but it’s a place to stay for a night or two.  

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[Jake Kenney]

Also great beach front camping at cape henlopen in lewes

[CJ Arayata]

Friday evening Grand Départ votes:
Greg

CJ

Ross

Woody

Jake (+ Emily?)

Saturday evening Grand Départ votes:

Charlie

Scott Ritner

Gary

Brendan D.

Looks preeeetty close! I will now defer to the Cape May anciens to make the final call.

I hereby call the following Society members to the stand ::ahem hem::

MANTA, ALEXANDER

MANTA, NICHOLAS

MULES, ANDREA

RACHELL, ZACHARY

STANIS, RYAN

I also want to clarify that there are some people who could do both days but prefer one or the other, vs. people who can only do one of the days due to work or other obligations.

[Greg Biché]

I fall into the category of "has no problem with saturday départ but prefers friday"

and also 

On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 2:30:03 PM UTC-4, Jake Kenney wrote:

Also great beach front camping at cape henlopen in lewes

You have my attention! that sounds really nice. is the ferry expensive? To get back to philly i would most likely ferry back to NJ and ride to Atlantic City. unless of course there's a better way

[Andrea Mules]

My official vote is Saturday 

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[Emily Dodson]

Friday into Saturday! 

[Jake Kenney]

Ferry is ~$10 each way if booked ahead. Dunno if it changes if you get tickets there. 

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[Nick Calcagni]

Friday - no sleep before ride, get to sleep all day Sunday

Saturday - get to sleep all day before ride, no sleep after ride

Tough call.

-Nick

[Ag Manta]

I don't care too much either way. If I had to vote I'd say Saturday into Sunday cause if my days off but I rally could go either way. Maybe just make it a weekend long loop. 

Ag 

[David Karpay]

Saturday

Friday into Saturday! 

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[Nicholas Manta]

Y’all

I have really bad news. Unfortunately, NJ transit is going to shut down the Atlantic City line for 5 months starting September 5 because of personnel and equipment shortages. 

This throws a bit of a wrench in our plans.

Any ideas? Thoughts? I’m dreaming of a North East transit riders union.

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/transportation/2018/08/03/nj-transit-atlantic-city-line-shut-down-5-months/899063002/

[Greg Biché]

fuck.

thanks for that very important news, nick.

well, it's hard not to launch into a lament about how our capitalist hellscape continues to mock social projects like public transit while letting them languish and fail. that sucks.

All i have to say is: I want to declare this the IVth annual iteration of the cape may dyno to be dedicated to the workers of public transportation everywhere. train conductors, bus drivers, ticket-punchers, mechanics, and everyone except for transit police. if u dont like it u can fight my anarchist ass.

Let's develop a new plan! I'm down to ride all the way back to philly if we can find somewhere to camp and rest for a night in between. i think we have enough time to come up with a plan that suits everyone

[Jake Kenney]

I support an out and back weekend adventure. Ride all night, sleep all day, ride all night. 

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[CJ Arayata]

Round trip.

Controle 1: Philadelphia

Controle 2: Cape May

Controle 3: Atlantic City

Controle 4: Philadelphia

Am I kidding or not? Stay tuned.

THANK YOU to Nick for the crucial heads up.

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[Scott B. Ritner]

I'm into it. Bringing my union card... How many red and black bikes can we collect before the end of September?

[Ryan Stanis]

Well crap, thanks Nick for being up

To date on all things train related. I think this earns you 45 extra points in ticket to ride, putting you in a solid lead for the win. 

No thanks to Fucker for diverting funds to more lucrative ventures and lining their pockets all the while making it harder for the worker to make a living.

You know I’ll be going into this ride sleep deprived to begin with, so why not  ride back? NJ ditch naps and Wawa coffee should get us through. 😜🤪🙃😴

R

[CJ Arayata]

Given the lack of train transport, I think at the very least we will need to nail down the start to **Friday, the 28th**. That way, there is maximum flexibility for people who want to ride back, and for those that want to camp/sleep/whatever before making the return trip, there is a bit more time built in to the weekend.

There's still a chance we could look into buses or whatever alternate transportation (McGet renting a charter bus??).

Any major objections to the Friday start?

[Greg Biché]

as a potential alternative to campibg, do you guys think we could rent a house for the weekend? or airb+b? i dont know much about what the prices are like but i bet we could do it for cheep if its split between enuf people

[Gary Wilpizeski]

I like this idea.  Ride Friday Night -> Saturday, get to house/campground/whatever, beach/lounge all day -> ride home Sunday morning.  Sounds prettttaaay nice

[CJ Arayata]

Wow, this sounds wayyy better than a 200+mi ride in one shot, as much as I like ridiculously long brevet distances. Makes it way more accessible too!

I don't see anything in Cape May but I do see some full houses in Wildwood for about $400. Between 10 people, $40 a person?

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[Gary Wilpizeski]

That's pretty reasonable, and I'm sure we could put together a nice route back from Wildwood for Sunday.  Maybe even somewhere a bit further north like Sea Isle or something?

[Jake Kenney]

Free housing in Rehoboth if y’all are okay with an $18 round trip ferry ticket 

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That's pretty reasonable, and I'm sure we could put together a nice route back from Wildwood for Sunday.  Maybe even somewhere a bit further north like Sea Isle or something?

On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 1:16:15 PM UTC-4, CJ Arayata wrote:

Wow, this sounds wayyy better than a 200+mi ride in one shot, as much as I like ridiculously long brevet distances. Makes it way more accessible too!

I don't see anything in Cape May but I do see some full houses in Wildwood for about $400. Between 10 people, $40 a person?

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I like this idea.  Ride Friday Night -> Saturday, get to house/campground/whatever, beach/lounge all day -> ride home Sunday morning.  Sounds prettttaaay nice

On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 12:18:45 PM UTC-4, Greg Biché wrote:

as a potential alternative to campibg, do you guys think we could rent a house for the weekend? or airb+b? i dont know much about what the prices are like but i bet we could do it for cheep if its split between enuf people

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[Andrea Mules]

I'm down with the plan of staying over somewhere before riding back on Sunday.

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[Scott B. Ritner]

I am also down with that plan.

[Greg Biché]

for the record i am still more inclined towards camping but i havent yet really researched the campgroudn options. if they all cost as much per person as renting a house you know im gonna choose the house. i got nothing to prove

[Emily Dodson]

same, got nothing to prove

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for the record i am still more inclined towards camping but i havent yet really researched the campgroudn options. if they all cost as much per person as renting a house you know im gonna choose the house. i got nothing to prove

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[Ryan Stanis]

Ferry ticket sounds way more affordable and fun than a $400 rental. I love any ride involving a ferry. Down for this. I’ll start work on a proper flyer for this Monday (ish) when I’m done house sitting.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:11 PM Emily Dodson <emilyh...@gmail.com> wrote:

same, got nothing to prove

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for the record i am still more inclined towards camping but i havent yet really researched the campgroudn options. if they all cost as much per person as renting a house you know im gonna choose the house. i got nothing to prove

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[CJ Arayata]

Ahemhemhemmmmm

I've been talking to Jake re: incorporating Delaware into the master plan. Here is said master plan:

Friday evening into Saturday:

• 6:30PM meet at La Colombe. Ride until we get to Cape May. Frolic in the sand and take #epic sunrise pictures for the #gram. Wait for the ferry.
  

Saturday:

• Take an early morning ferry to Lewes Beach (first two are 7AM and 8:30AM). Camping available at Cape Henelopen, tent sites are $45 a night for 4 people. Set up camp, etc.
  
• Those who do not want to camp may be able to stay at Jake's parents' place in nearby Rehoboth Beach. 5 spots available. RSVP to jakek...@gmail.com.
  
• Once we've set up for the day and have taken showers, napped, relaxed a bit, etc. we can meet back up and hang on the beach, boardwalk mini golf, eat food, whatever.
  

Sunday:

• Take an early morning ferry (first is 8:45AM) back to Cape May. Ride back to Philadelphia.
  

For outbound route, I want to repeat the same way we did last year: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/25228979?beta=false

For return trip, we could either reverse the new route, or reverse the "classic" route: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/16094384?beta=false

I'm up for either.

Ryan is working diligently on a flyer.

Action points:

• Let me know what ferry time sounds better, 7AM or 8:30AM. Historically, we've gotten to Cape May in plenty of time for 7AM, but we'd still need to get to the actual station and all. Once decided, everyone needs to book their own ferry trip.
• Camp crew is responsible for booking your own site and sorting out money among yourselves; I suspect you'll need at least two sites depending on how many people go.
  

Anything else I am forgetting?

[CJ Arayata]

Whoops, forgot to include relevant links for camping at Cape Henelopen:

https://destateparks.com/Reservations/RVandTentCamping

https://destateparks.com/wwwroot/downloads/camping/2018-CampingRates.pdf

[Scott B. Ritner]

If anyone is interested in going another 36-37 miles from Lewes down to Bethany Beach, DE, I can see if my Aunt and Uncle would have room for a few more non-campers as well. If folks are interested, I'll ask, if not, I'm more than happy to share a campsite with 3 of yous.

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[Charles Sarkioglu]

Being a hopeful member of non-camper crowd, I would be up for extra milage if it means  not camping.  

Charlie

[Andrea Mules]

Gary and I are down for camping. Who else? Once we get a tally for campers, we can figure out how many sites to reserve.

[Greg Biché]

im on board for cramping

[Gary Wilpizeski]

So after looking up reservations online, Cape Henlopen is booked up that weekend, but 8mi south of there is Delaware Seashore State Park, at which there are plenty of sites available, and its still right next to the beach.  More info here

So here's the deal w/ this place:

Tent sites are $35 each, up to 8 people per site, but you can only reserve a minimum of 2 nights, so we'd have to do Friday night -> Saturday so the site is reserved and we can roll in whenever.  Check in is 1PM and check out is 12PM.

Lets try to get a final headcount for camping by end of this week and I'll set up the reservation.

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 11:23:10 AM UTC-4, Andrea Mules wrote:

Gary and I are down for camping. Who else? Once we get a tally for campers, we can figure out how many sites to reserve.

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Being a hopeful member of non-camper crowd, I would be up for extra milage if it means  not camping.  

Charlie

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If anyone is interested in going another 36-37 miles from Lewes down to Bethany Beach, DE, I can see if my Aunt and Uncle would have room for a few more non-campers as well. If folks are interested, I'll ask, if not, I'm more than happy to share a campsite with 3 of yous.

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Whoops, forgot to include relevant links for camping at Cape Henelopen:

https://destateparks.com/Reservations/RVandTentCamping

https://destateparks.com/wwwroot/downloads/camping/2018-CampingRates.pdf

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[James Hultquist-Todd]

I’d be happy with camping.

[Alexander Manta]

I'm down to camp

[Greg Biché]

thanks gary for looking that up. and thanks CJ and everyone else who's been posting here for keeping the momentum going on organizing. ive been distracted but i still really want to do this ride.
Im excited about camping-count me in.

[Jake Kenney]

Heads up with the camping - if they work like other Delaware parks, you can reserve a single night but only within 2 weeks of the date.  Could save some dollars but risk not getting a site.

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thanks gary for looking that up. and thanks CJ and everyone else who's been posting here for keeping the momentum going on organizing. ive been distracted but i still really want to do this ride.
Im excited about camping-count me in.

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[Ryan Stanis]

Down to camp, Felix is too!

[Scott B. Ritner]

Charlie and I are also both down to camp.

[Gary Wilpizeski]

Ok so-

Looks like the headcount is:

Me + Andrea

James

Ag

Greg (+1?)

Ryan + Felix

Sean + Charlie

That's (potentially) 10 people so far, so we'd have to spread out over 2 sites.

Is anyone else interested that hasn't mentioned it yet?

Right now this works out to $140 ($35/night x 2 nights x 2 spots), so $14/person (unless we get more people that want to camp, up to 16 (8/site))

Now a couple questions for everyone.  Jake mentioned that as it gets closer, we might only have to reserve one night rather than two, which would bring the cost down.  As of right now, there's 21 tent sites available for both of those days, which doesn't look like much less than there was when last I looked. Do we:

A) Wait for the cheaper option ($70 total, $7/person) and possibly risk not being able to reserve a spot or

B) Book now and lock in the spots at $14/person

Let me know and I'd be glad to make the reservation!

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Charlie and I are also both down to camp.

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Down to camp, Felix is too!

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Heads up with the camping - if they work like other Delaware parks, you can reserve a single night but only within 2 weeks of the date.  Could save some dollars but risk not getting a site.

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thanks gary for looking that up. and thanks CJ and everyone else who's been posting here for keeping the momentum going on organizing. ive been distracted but i still really want to do this ride.
Im excited about camping-count me in.

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I’m in too, that sounds pretty good to me.

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[Kid Coleco]

Hey guys, this is my first ride and I don’t plan on camping. Who should I get in contact with to make other sleeping arrangements.

Thanks.

Brian 

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[Alexander Manta]

I'm down to play it safe and book now, but I thiinnnk Nick is planning on camping too. Also it might be a good idea to figure out a tent/supplies sharing list so we all don't end up carrying a bunch of stuff when we don't have to.

[Scott B. Ritner]

I definitely agree on the idea of a little google doc to lighten everyone's load a little bit.

[Maggie Min]

I am such a voyeur. I love watching this unfold even though I wont be able to participate. You guys have so much fun!!!!!

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[Greg Biché]

OK! I feel like i need to regularly thank everyone for keeping the momentum going on this, helping make decisions and stuff. Thank you!

Here's what information I have to offer:

I will have no plus one on this trip; Ashley is going to a wedding. So just lil' ol' me.

I vote for booking the site now; $14 a head is fine with me, even with the ferry ticket (which according to this thread is $18 round trip). At $32 plus however much a whole tub of peanut butter costs then I can swing it. I would rather take the risk of waiting only to find that all the sites are booked.

Likewise, Gary, if it helps i am willing to volunteer to book [one of] the site[s] in my name and then people can pay me. let me know ASAP if that's necessary.

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So just to be sure, then, things would go something like this?

we RIDE from roughly dusk on FRIDAY to dawn on SATURDAY. check into camp, drop off our shit, then loaf it up on the beach! take a shower, sleep at camp SATURDAY night and then ride back to Philadelphia sometime on SUNDAY.

Do we know what time check-out is on sunday? would it be best to leave early to avoid the heat? i guess we don't have to decide now. just want to start thinkin' about it.

Guys I am so excited. this is gonna be awesome

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I am ready and willing to share my packing list as soon as I get my shit together.

some of the first questions i can think of:

Has anyone been to the camping area at Delaware Seashore State Park? if you have, are there trees around for a hammock? or is the camping just straight up on the sand? I would rather bring my hammock than my stuffy 1man bivy or my overkill 2man tent. but it's not a huge deal; Looks like the lows for that night will probably be in the low 60s /hi50s. maybe someone has an extra lightweight 1man tent i can borrow? maybe i can string up a hammock to a fence? maybe i can sleep under the stars.

I am more than willing to collaborate on FOOD ! let's cook together! gotta do more research about this campsite; maybe they have charcoal grills or fire pits?

I have a couple of little alcohol stoves and i can bring em all. i don't have much cookware like lightweight pots and pans but i'd love an excuse to buy some. Likewise i will carry as much food as i can because its much more fun for me to share.

Games? i think i have a deck of cards but damn i know some of yall have some good small portable games. throw that shit in yr bag

tunes? like a lil bluetooth speaker?

and finally, WOODY! can i borrow those panniers again? those grey ones. unless you need' em, in which case i will see if i can cram what i need in my small ones. If i need large ones, does anyone have a set of rear/large panniers i can borrow?

That's all i can think of for now. Aw man i am really looking forward to this!!!

-greg

[Andrea Mules]

depending on the answer to the tent vs hammock question (of which I don't know the answer to) you're welcome to borrow my 1 person Hilleberg tent. I've taken it bike touring plenty. It isn't the lightest out there but it isn't obscene either. You're welcome to roll out West to take a peek at it before deciding if you want to borrow it. I believe Gary and I will be bringing our multi person tent for ourselves to camp in. 

Andrea 

[Jake Kenney]

Dang Greg, you're making me wish we were gonna camp with y'all!  Maybe we can all hang at the campground before some of us retreat to the indoors.

Google Doc will be great to organize campers and indoor sleepers. 

So far I think this is indoor crü:

Me, Emily, CJ, Woody, Brian, Charlie?  

There should be room for another 2-3.

For the campers, I have a light 2 person tent and plenty of other gear if anyone needs some loaner stuff.

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Depending on Charlie's decision about camping or not I also have a 2+ person tent to share, or a hammock of my own. I am also considering just bringing a 40 degree bag and sleeping under the stars.

[Scott B. Ritner]

I started a google sheet. Lemme know if it works to share it with the group, or if I have to add folks individually.

so psyched.

[Natalie Felice]

CJ & I also have a 3-person tent (comfortably fits two, but could def squeeze 3) that we could lend out as well, so let us know. 

[Gary Wilpizeski]

Alright, so it seems the consensus is book 2 sites for 2 nights, just in case! and the Camping Crew is:

Me + Andrea

James

Ag + Nick

Greg

Ryan + Felix

Scott (Sorry I called you Sean before by mistake!)

Ross

Am I missing anybody? Either way, we'll have room for 16, so we should be fine.

Just a note for people thinking going the hammock route - They mention pretty adamantly that there is no shade at the campsites, which leads me to believe that hammock-tree options might be hard to come by.

If this sounds kosher to everybody, I'll book both sites tonight, and I'll put out a last call at the end of the week for campers so we don't have to do any more cost-splitting maths via venmo than we have to.

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[Gary Wilpizeski]

So having a look at google maps, it appears that there isn't a single tree anywhere to hang a hammock on haha

Also there are no open fires at this campground

[Alexander Manta]

Might lay out the hammock and put a bug net around me haha.

Also this : https://goo.gl/maps/8PGvuNevnAN2

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[Charles Sarkioglu]

Please add me to the "camping" list, Gary.  I'm planning to share a test with Scott.  Thanks!

[Charles Sarkioglu]

Tent*.  Whatever you whippersnappers call minimal shelters these days.

[Gary Wilpizeski]

Alright everybody, Reservations made!

$35/site x 2 sites x 2 nights = $140

$2/camper x 10 (well, Charlie makes 11, but shhhh) = $20

$4 reservation fee x2 reservations (2x apparently) = $16

$176/11 campers = $16 person

Gotta love a bunch of random fees.  Ugh, oh well.  Maybe if we can find a couple other people to jump on to offset a couple of the fees.

You all can either send me your $16 via venmo (@Gary-Wilpizeski), or google pay / paypal (gary.wi...@gmail.com).  Or just cash money dollars.

Some info:

Check in is at 1PM, but since we technically have the sites Friday too, they'll be empty for us so there shouldn't be a problem.  We just have to be ready to check in at around 1 on Saturday.

Here's a map with our sites highlighted:

And here's a photo of our luxurious accommodations!

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[Charles Sarkioglu]

Sweet!

[David Karpay]

Is it too late to join a campsite? To where do I direct funds?

[Gary Wilpizeski]

Hey David! It is not too late, you can venmo me here - @Gary-Wilpizeski

[Jono Davis]

Yo Gary, room for one more “one more”? I’m gonna make the trip down from CT for what sounds like the greatest dyno ever.

Let me know if there’s room and I’ll venmo ya, or I can try to reserve the next site in that row.

[CJ Arayata]

YES YES YES

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Yo Gary, room for one more “one more”? I’m gonna make the trip down from CT for what sounds like the greatest dyno ever.

Let me know if there’s room and I’ll venmo ya, or I can try to reserve the next site in that row.

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[Gary Wilpizeski]

Yep. This puts us at 13 people out of 16 potential spots for about $13.50/person, so I think I owe a couple of people $2.50?

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I have a lot of reading to catch up on...

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[Greg Biché]

hows the best way on ridewithgps to reverse the trip?

i wanna make a cue sheet for getting home, because i get confused trying to follow directions backwards

[CJ Arayata]

I can reverse the routes and make cues. Greg please remind me next weekend (the 22nd) to do them and I will!

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hows the best way on ridewithgps to reverse the trip?

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[Alexander Manta]

Is the reverse plan to do the V1 route back to Somer's Point and stop at the ol' diner?

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[CJ Arayata]

I think that would be fun, so it ends up being a loop course and not an out-and-back. That being said, I remember in the past few years we run into weird problems trying to ride up through all the shoretowns during the morning (like a running race closing down that one big bridge between there and OC), so I'm not sure what would be best.

[Ryan Stanis]

I say let’s roll the dice and take the v1 route.  Do the ol jersey loop de loop.

[Scott B. Ritner]

Good morning all,

I have to back out of the Dyno because of a family situation. Gary, keep my $16 as a donation to everyone else having a blast! I'll be wishing I was riding with you all.

Charlie, I can bring you any camping gear you need to the shop tomorrow or Thursday. Whichever is better for you.

Finally, if the Rando crew is doing the October 20 Fall NeoClassic 200K and are willing to let me tag along, get in touch off the list please.

I'm bummed, but sometimes this is how it goes.

-s

[Gary Wilpizeski]

Alright Campers - here's an update on where we're at for this weekend!

Weather's looking good so far, temps in the 70s should make for some nice beach weather.

Just called this morning to double check our reservation and that it's ok that we roll in on Saturday morning.

According to the spreadsheet, Nick, Ross, Charlie, Ryan, and Fenix still owe me for the reservation fee.  Paypal/venmo/cash is still fine, obviously.  And just to keep things fair, I've been keeping track of who paid how much so that nobody overpaid as we get more people added onto our crew.  Right now since we have 13 people, its $13.50/person, so I owe a couple of you $2.50 since you paid me a bit more when we had less people.

After a quick look, it appears that there's a Giant supermarket about 7mi south of the campground, so we can get food after we check in if you don't feel like hauling your meals the ~115mi to camp.

Regarding tents, please try to coordinate doubling/tripling up in tents as much as possible.  Technically we're only allowed two tents per site, however the person in the reservation office didn't seem too concerned that we'd have a group (although, it could be someone completely different and way more stringent on Saturday.  The weather might actually be nice enough that sleeping in open air is totally doable (having done this before, it's really enjoyable!))

Regarding gear - can we start coordinating who's bringing what? There's some info on the spreadsheet, but I don't know if anybody's talked to anybody else.

Andrea and I are bringing a jetboil stove, some cookware, and a canopy (aka a tarp and 2 tent poles).  We also have a TON of backpacking gear to loan out if anybody's needs to borrow some.

So regarding the Ferry - looks like a round trip is $18 w/ bicycle. 

Here's the schedule: 

Not sure what everyone's plans are for riding back to Philly, but I'd personally prefer to not be riding all day and get home super late on Sunday, so I'm aiming to take the 10:15am ferry back to Cape May at the latest.

[James Hultquist-Todd]

Thanks Gary, for putting this all together.

I’d rather not bring my tent as it weighs around 10lbs and is pretty big and unwieldy on a bike.

[Andrea Mules]

stoked for this weekend!

Also if anyone needs a pannier or two, let me know. i have a full set of Arkel panniers and will likely only use one if any at all.

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[Greg Biché]

i haven't completely nailed down my shelter scenario; depending on the weather i might just bring a bug net or a bivy. if someone has no shelter and is OK with sharing a tent, i can bring my 2man tent and we can be tent buddies. hit me up.

i don't think i'll need to borrow anything. if i don't find what i need ill reach out ASAP .

im fine with stopping at the giant to buy food, rather than bringing it all along. that will also probably make it easier for us to buy and cook as a group.

if anyone needs to borrow anything specific, better ask soon! i know lots of people have extra gear but theres not a lot of time left

[Jake Kenney]

I have a light 2p tent if anyone needs one. 

There are also a few grocery stores less than a mile off route while passing through Rehoboth. A Fresh Market and Giant if memory serves. 

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[Jono Davis]

Unfortunately I need to pull a Scott and also back out of the Dyno. I'm going on a work trip to Kingdom Trails that weekend though, so don't cry for me.

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[Charles Sarkioglu]

Hey folks,

First Gary, Thanks for doing the organizational legwork on the camping end. 

Regretfully, I haven't any camping gear to share or contribute as I don't have any. However, Scott loaned me his 2 person REI Dome 2 tent even though he will be unable to join us.  Unfortunately, the tent is much larger, heavier, and longer when packed than what seems reasonable for one person to bring on this type of trip. 

Questions:  Does anyone have room in their tent for me (6'2" 220lbs) OR does anyone need to share this tent with me & would anyone be willing to carry some of this tent?  Maybe I'll just not bring the "fly" since it doesn't look like rain anyway.  Ya'll will just have to look away when I get changed in there. 

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[Andrea Mules]

Charlie - I have a 1 person tent you're welcome to borrow if you're interested! I can take some measurements of it when I get home tonight and text them to you to see if that works better. It's a roomy 1 person tent. Not really big enough for 2 folks but I've been very comfortable in it solo with my 55lb dog who stretches out when she sleeps.

[Greg Biché]

hey Charlie-- i have an REI half dome 2plus which, while it isn't ultralight, is reasonable. something like 5lbs all together. u can split it with me, if you want.
i'm especially open to sharing a shelter with someone because my nicest (ie most comfortable and reliable) shelter is that rei 2man tent. but charlie, if you'd rather field options for 1man shelter i totally understand.
in that case i offer half of my tent to anyone who's interested. i don't snore TOO loud!

[Greg Biché]

basically i'm bringing some kind of tent as a backup, in case of bugs and/or rain. ideally im gonna sleep out in the open.