Insanity

[Chris Stanoch]

Bill how's it going with insanity.  i'm starting to get a little more serious about it and am still aiming early jan to get going.

[Bill Braverman]

Still going. I bet it would be going better if i were doing the diet, or eating close to "right".  I have been skipping the recovery day on Thursdays and using that day to catch up because i am usually one day behind at that point.

I took the "fit test" on day 1 and 15 and there is definitely improvement. I am not looking forward to month 2, and may just do month 1 over again if it kicks my ass to much.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Chris Stanoch <csta...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bill how's it going with insanity.  i'm starting to get a little more serious about it and am still aiming early jan to get going.

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[Jack Robitzski]

Straight up, no clarifying questions:  P90X or Insanity?

[Shane Cashdollar]

if you gotta ask....

[Chris Stanoch]

yeah that was my thinking behind waiting until jan was the diet.  there's no question diet is half the battle, if not more.  with xmas, new years, random holiday parties it's nearly impossible not to eat like a slob and drink yourself silly. 

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Bill Braverman <bill.br...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Bill Braverman]

i never did p90x. but it really depends on your goals.

I feel p90x is better for getting all around jacked and insanity is definitely better for improving cardio, shedding weight, and getting a 6 pack.

That said, insanity.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Jack Robitzski <robi...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Chris Stanoch]

depends on what you are going for.  P90 will build muscle, insanity will lean you out.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Jack Robitzski <robi...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Brad Ash]

Woah woah, keep that shit on philea...@googlegroups.com

[Chris Stanoch]

bill what's the difficulty level on the workouts?

[Bill Braverman]

they are all doable. so moderate. it just depends on how many breaks you take and if you try to keep up 100% on all the exercises.

for example, there is one that is a squat thrust with 8 pushups. by the time i get into the second time through it i am just getting into a pushup position by the time he is at the 4th pushup. so what do you do, go for the 8 pushups and fall behind, or just cut out the 4 and try to keep up?

[Brad Ash]

How's this going Bill? Anyone else getting cut in the winter months? I finally got back into running after taking a month off. Yesterday, I ran outside in 10 degree weather and I'm glad I turned around when I did because even with gloves on, my fingers were numb to the point I could barely open the door with my key when I got home. It took about 10 minutes of trying to warm them up to regain color and feeling so..... fuuuuuuuck that! I gotta find some hardcore gloves because I don't know how long I can deal with treadmill + basketball-only Sportscenter as the NFL season wraps up. 

[Bill Braverman]

I have not done shit since the week before Xmas. If i start anything back up, it will be this monday.

Working out outside = crazy.

[Brad Ash]

If Rocky hadn't trained in Siberia, he never would have defeated Drago

[Bill Braverman]

Thanks BZ, i guess i can cross that one off my list of "to watch"

[Eric Zeidler]

There are still people running outside in shorts in CT. It was like 8 degrees out yesterday. I don't understand how they still have legs.

 

I've been hitting the gym probably 3-4 times a week since finishing P90X, alternating between weights and treadmill. Not sure if I have hit enough weights to get cool yet (guessing no).

[Brad Ash]

Guillaume is the only one who can judge that

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[Chip]

its not just the weights though... i believe its a combination of weights and bowl smoking

[Chris Stanoch]

I'm thinking about starting this up on monday

Sent from my iPhone

[Chip Boyd]

Aren't you having a baby on Monday?

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From: Chris Stanoch
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Subject: Re: Insanity

[Bill Braverman]

i started back up today. i wanted to die.

i lost some endurance and #s since my last "fit test" but still a little better than the first time i took it.

[Jack Robitzski]

I came closest to starting this this morning than I have in a long time... but I couldn't peel myself out of bed.  I need someone to to talk make fun of me for it...

Stanoch, I assume you started up this morning as planned?  Nothing happened between when you said that and now to change your mind right?

[Brad Ash]

How much does that baby weigh? Who needs weights when you've got an increasingly difficult baby press

[Jack Robitzski]

I do that with my kid... baby lifts.  Now that he's getting older though he can usually wrestle out of it

[Eric Zeidler]

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it would take a seriously life-changing event to prevent Stanoch from starting up Insanity today.

[Bill Braverman]

Is it cool if we call that life changing event Chalupa Batman?

[Jack Robitzski]

That's a given

[Brad Ash]

Looks like he actually named the baby Zach (but not Parise)

[Bill Braverman]

chump move not going with Martin as the middle name.

[Brad Ash]

or Zach Tony Horton Stanoch

[Shane Cashdollar]

plus ZJ was less than 7lbs.  Needs to immediately hit the gym or he's going to be the next coxswain for Rutgers women crew.

[Jack Robitzski]

Did the Insanity fit test this morning NBD

I won't lie, there were times that I laid flat on the floor for a few seconds

[Bill Braverman]

Good work. Let's get those stats.

[Brad Ash]

What do I have to do to do this? Are the vids up on Bill's video emporium?

[Jack Robitzski]

So far I've done the fit test twice and this morning I did Plyometric Cardio.  Aaaand wow -- I really think it might be a good idea to have emergency medical personnel on site and at the ready from now on.

[Eric Zeidler]

Does Lil' Jack try to climb on you while you're doing these workouts? It was always rough trying to do plyo or yoga when Emmy was awake and she only weighed like 20 pounds.

[Jack Robitzski]

The only way I can do these workouts is before he even gets up (the 6-7am block)

[Chris Stanoch]

All right im officially ready to get going on this...Jack how far are you into this now?

[Jack Robitzski]

Technically, 2 days.

[Brad Ash]

You're really having trouble reading email lately aren't you?

[Chris Stanoch]

He started 8 days ago, just wanted to be sure.  Now trade me ilya!

[Chris Stanoch]

also, you want to start this thing up brad?

[Jack Robitzski]

Whoever lasts the longest gets Ilya?

[Brad Ash]

Sure I'll start it up, but no one answered me on where to get those vids

[Chris Stanoch]

you don't read YOUR emails ha!  They are on bill's website, mail search insanity and they'll come up

[Jack Robitzski]

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B0-bHAJTC8-mZGNTTVNuSUFMS2s/edit

[Brad Ash]

Is it shot in a high school gym? Are there high school chicks?

[Chris Stanoch]

Yes...and no

[Jack Robitzski]

Yes and cannot confirm at this time

[Bill Braverman]

I've been riding the bail train, 1st class this week.

Shaun T is definitely doing the asian chick.

[Jack Robitzski]

Bill, I just learned today that Shaun T went to Rowan.  Homeboy!

[Chris Stanoch]

start it up again bill?

[Bill Braverman]

yeah, i'll give it a go monday night.

[Chris Stanoch]

brad when do you want to start?  today? tomorrow?

[Brad Ash]

I might start up with my run club again tonight (although it's -7 degrees right now) and that makes it harder to do these videos. I could try and start tomorrow, what equipment do you need? I haven't looked at any of the videos yet.  

[Bill Braverman]

Bailing on starting back up. I reinjured my knee cutting it up on the dance floor last night at my sister's wedding.

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[Andrew Sullivan]

I grabbed a pair of these last week, trying to get into running. So far I've been reminded 4 times how much I hate running, but I'm hoping I can get into it.

http://www.amazon.com/Mizuno-Wave-Creation-Running-Folkstone/dp/B00717X12O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358791270&sr=8-1&keywords=mizuno+wave+13

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[Chip]

also going to pound some pavement this week. phiru...@googlegroups.com? 

[Brad Ash]

Out on that group if you're gonna say pound some pavement

[Brad Ash]

It looks like I just need some new tanks and a will to kick ass. Bill do you need a lot of room to move around and jump? That could be an issue. 

[Eric Zeidler]

I had never heard of Mizuno before I bought my last pair of running shoes, but they're great so far. I think mine are Wave 7s, but I have no idea if that means they're older or just a different model.

[Andrew Sullivan]

They're pretty good so far. No knee problems running on sidewalks. My lower back does start to ache, especially when headed up hill. Is this a problem in my shoes? My form? Am I just old?

[Jack Robitzski]

Chalk that up to the gut

[Andrew Sullivan]

Seriously?

[Jack Robitzski]

Why not?  Sometimes when my back hurts from running (or even walking) I have to think it's because my back is counteracting against the gravity working on my gut

[Andrew Sullivan]

Well that's good cause I guess I can do something about it.

[Jack Robitzski]

I'm no chiropractor (obv)

[Brad Ash]

Mizuno is a big baseball brand, they've expanded to other sports more lately. 

I would just get ready for your back to hurt Oldhouse. I'm gonna spare you the details because I want to encourage you and running is a hell of a lot of fun once you get over the initial "running sucks ass."  Unfortunately managing pain is most likely something you're gonna have to deal with based purely on personal experience and people I know (like Jack I am also not a doctor and that is based on a sample size of about ~20 people). 

P.S. don't waste your money on a chiropractor. If you actually want to get help, see if you insurance will cover a visit to a physical therapist. They can still do adjustments, but they actually help you correct problems and help figure out the cause of your problems.

[Andrew Sullivan]

Word, thanks.

[Brad Ash]

Did you work with a PT for your wrist? If you liked them you could go one time and figure out if it's something easy you can work on like posture, stretching or your running strike.

[Andrew Sullivan]

Not a bad suggestion. I'm probably too busy / lazy to do it, but I like where your head's at. Did you do such a thing? Results?

[Brad Ash]

More sweetrustips: 

- these are expensive, but badass http://www.amazon.com/The-Stick-Original-Body/dp/B000P7RSL2 (I resisted buying one for awhile, but now I'm glad I did)

- softballs are money for massing the bottom of your foot if you have to deal with shit like planar fasciitis

- beer stores (like supply stores for homebrew) usually have free ice packs in a bin that they use to ship all the yeast and they're smaller than normal. I keep a ton of these in my freezer and I like the size because they are easier to store and you can target small areas pretty easily. 

[Shane Cashdollar]

I've been thinking about putting in an ice tub.  But i'd probably end up keeping it full of beers

[Andrew Sullivan]

Do you do a full leg rub-down with the stick after running, or wait for the pain then apply as necessary? I like the idea of rubbin it up with one of those sticks either way.

you're mom could probably use a bunch of those free ice packs for shipping yeast.

[Brad Ash]

Yea I've been to both a bunch. Gave up on the chiropractor because it seemed like they were just providing me temporary relief and not helping me change anything. One of our good friends is a badass PT and he's helped me out with a few things, but nothing back related yet. I slouch like a motherfucker so I think my back problems are heavily attributed to sitting down all day for work, but running with terrible posture certainly doesn't help. I need to get on one of those medieval racks and straighten out my back I think. 

[Brad Ash]

hiyo

ice bath would be sweet, but I agree with Shane it'd be annoying to push all those beers aside every time you want to use it

[Andrew Sullivan]

I got hooked on the chiropractor last year cause it just felt so good, but you're right, nothing permanent came out of it.

also your mom has a medieval rack

[Brad Ash]

he's heating up...

[Josh Budwin]

For running motivation we could get teams together and compete with Nike+ -- assume everyone here has Nike+, and isn't chump.  We did a few of these a year or two ago.....

[Shane Cashdollar]

If I can wear one durning my hockey games then ill buy one and be in. I hate exercising but love competition. 

[Jack Robitzski]

I couldn't be more out on running.  It just isn't my thing.

[Brad Ash]

I have a Nike+ but don't use it unless I'm on a treadmill, it's not very accurate even after calibrating, but I suppose it would be inaccurate for everyone. 

[Brad Ash]

In on some sweet cross-sport algorithm. Shane gets 10 miles for every GP, 2 miles per goal, 1 miles per assist and 1/4 mile for every penalty minute. 3x multiplier if you get in a fight with the other team's goalie. 

[Josh Budwin]

Nike+ is very accurate for me.  Both on the Treadmill and on the 4 mile loop around the trail.  Wonder if it's your running motion that's throwing it off?

[Andrew Sullivan]

What do you need for a nike+? Is it just a stand-alone device you wear or something?

[Brad Ash]

It's usually only about 2/10 - 1/2 mile off (on the high side) over the course of a few miles when running at a controlled pace after calibrating on a treadmill. Doing any intervals or running faster than usual throws it out of whack and I normally run outside with a GPS so that has certainly made me think less of my Nike+ than I used to. 

[Josh Budwin]

You need an ipod or iphone, then you buy this:

http://www.amazon.com/Sport-NEWEST-VERSION-Retail-Packaging/dp/B004D4Y37U/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1358876272&sr=8-5&keywords=nike%2B

One sensor goes in your shoe (helpful if you have Nike shoes with the built in place for it) and receiver plugs into your phone/ipod.

They also make a wrist kit and watches.

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Andrew Sullivan <sull...@gmail.com> wrote:

ed for a nike+? Is it just a stand-alone device you wear or something?

[Josh Budwin]

You like the GPS watch?  What do you use?

[Shane Cashdollar]

The fitBit is better. It does more stuff (stairs/elevation) and is way more accurate. Not sure if it does online competition stuff though. 

[Brad Ash]

The one I use is on my ipod nano, but I think they make them for all sorts of devices now. Don't get me wrong, when I first got it, I thought it was the bees knees and for the way it's measuring distance without any GPS, it's pretty impressive how close it can get. I've just become less impressed over time as I've used more accurate equipment and started doing different interval training. 

[Brad Ash]

I bought a used Garmin Forerunner 305 on Craigslist for like 1/3 of the price and love it. Convinced QQ to get one as well and he is also in love (but that's his MO). I haven't gotten into any of the heartrate training or more advanced shit it can do, but for pure pacing and running outside it rocks. Even balls on accurate doing trail races in the woods. 

You know what they say, once you go black, you're gonna need a wheelchari.

[Andrew Sullivan]

I'm gonna hold out for this guy:

http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/22/the-neptune-pine-smart-watch-has-a-camera-runs-android-and-wants-to-replace-your-smartphone/

[Brad Ash]

I think the Nike+ would be a lot better if it could give you pacing information and split times. I've been waiting for them to update that with software. 

Does the FitBit require you to carry your phone with you or does it store data you can dump later? I'm not a fan of running with my phone either in a pocket or on an armbad. 

[Shane Cashdollar]

it stores it all.  And it will auto dump your data when you walk by your hotspot / it's charging station.