Re: [PG-Politics] PGC Liquor Board Chair -- New details

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Diane C. Russell

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Dec 14, 2016, 2:07:14 PM12/14/16
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Many of the council members are having parties or other events of some kind this week.  If you care enough, you should go to your member's event, ask why he or she is so tolerant of drunks and anti-social, even criminal behavior, and suggest that you would rather have and support having a more upright council representative who supports the rule of law rather than supporting and making excuses for law breakers.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Stan Fetter sfe...@icloud.com [PG-Politics] <PG-Po...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I applaud the actions of the governor in this one, and I continue to be disappointed at the rest of the crowd.   Endless forgiveness and second chances are a hallmark of public life in the county, and I’m sick and tired of it.  It is VERY rare for an elected or appointed official here to step up and actually take responsibility for something.  Witness Mel (who, at one point, I had a great deal of respect for) who has not said a word.  He kept all his issues quiet as long as he could, and has made no effort to level with the community at all.  Not so much as an apology, no “I made a mistake” or anything - not even via an office mouthpiece.


ANY public official - appointed, elected, or what - has responsibilities to the people and the office.  Those responsibilities include leading by example and living/working to a higher standard.

It is my opinion that we’ve seen failure after failure on both points.  The examples being set continue to stink.

There’s been a lot of looking the other way here, and that’s got to stop.  The fact that most of the people looking the other way are Democrats, and most of the people getting a pass have been Democrats, may or may not be instructive.  It’s what it is - call it partisan if you want, but I think the facts speak for themselves.

I remain disappointed and disgusted.

sbf


On Dec 14, 2016, at 10:15 AM, 'Lorraine Yuriar' theky...@yuriar.com [PG-Politics] <PG-Po...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


True. Mel is elected, and Caldwell was appointed.  Caldwell asked an officer if he could make the situation go away, while Mel fled the scene. Caldwell is still maintaining his innocence, which is why the governor forced him to resign.  Progressive MD has called for Mel’s resignation, but Rushern has called it a mere blip, and said Mel has a great political future ahead of him. 

 

It’s just interesting to me, the reaction to the two men. Honestly, I don’t see much of a reaction (other than the governor) to either man’s situation.  I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing…. But it does intrigue me. 

 

Also, it’s sad that we the voters have no recourse to force a Politian out of county office. We should. They work for us, we should be able to gather signatures & petition to force a resignation. 

 

Lorraine

 

 

From: PG-Politics@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PG-Politics@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 3:27 AM
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Really? Are you serious? First as an appointed official one is able to be replaced, the other was elected and cannot be forced out. Second why someone who serves at the pleasure of the governor had to only be forced out after attempting to bribe a police officer is ridiculous. 

 

Don't bring partisan politics into this. 

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On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:35 AM, 'Lorraine Yuriar' theky...@yuriar.com [PG-Politics] <PG-Po...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

FWIW – When the police report in the liquor board chairman’s dui arrest came to light this morning, Gov Larry Hogan called him and pretty much forced him to resign. So there’s that.  Meanwhile, Rushern Baker says Mel Franklin’s DUI is just a blip, and he’s got a great career in politics ahead of him.  

 

It intrigues me to note that one was a Republican, nominated by a Republican Governor, then forced to resign by said governor.  The other, a Democrat, elected by a primarily democrat citizenry, being given cover by other democrats in leadership.  Just something I’ve noticed. 

 

Lorraine

 

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I have a little bit LESS understanding of the peers of such officials who continue to help cover up their wrongdoing.  

Mel Franklin DUI!
MGM Casino!
MGM Casino!
MGM Casino!
Liquor Board Chair!
MGM Casino!
MGM Casino!

And it seems that a large swath of the public falls for it.  The shiny object syndrome at work.



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No reprimand.
Here's my story that might help jog memories.

Miranda Spivack





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Subject: RE: [PG-Politics] Re: PGC Liquor Board Chair -- New details

 
The Council has the power to reprimand a councild...@co.pg.md.us person if they choose. I believe this was last done with Leslie Johnson, but do not remember the details or the process that could allow that to happen.
The voters also have some power to recall under certain conditions.



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From: "'Lorraine Yuriar' theky...@yuriar.com [PG-Politics]" <PG-Po...@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 12/14/16 10:15 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: RE: [PG-Politics] Re: PGC Liquor Board Chair -- New details

True. Mel is elected, and Caldwell was appointed.  Caldwell asked an officer if he could make the situation go away, while Mel fled the scene. Caldwell is still maintaining his innocence, which is why the governor forced him to resign.  Progressive MD has called for Mel’s resignation, but Rushern has called it a mere blip, and said Mel has a great political future ahead of him.
 
It’s just interesting to me, the reaction to the two men. Honestly, I don’t see much of a reaction (other than the governor) to either man’s situation.  I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing…. But it does intrigue me.
 
Also, it’s sad that we the voters have no recourse to force a Politian out of county office. We should. They work for us, we should be able to gather signatures & petition to force a resignation.
 
Lorraine
 
 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 3:27 AM
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Really? Are you serious? First as an appointed official one is able to be replaced, the other was elected and cannot be forced out. Second why someone who serves at the pleasure of the governor had to only be forced out after attempting to bribe a police officer is ridiculous. 
 
Don't bring partisan politics into this. 

Sent from my iPhone - Please excuse grammatical and spelling errors.  

On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:35 AM, 'Lorraine Yuriar' theky...@yuriar.com [PG-Politics] <PG-Po...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
FWIW – When the police report in the liquor board chairman’s dui arrest came to light this morning, Gov Larry Hogan called him and pretty much forced him to resign. So there’s that.  Meanwhile, Rushern Baker says Mel Franklin’s DUI is just a blip, and he’s got a great career in politics ahead of him. 
 
It intrigues me to note that one was a Republican, nominated by a Republican Governor, then forced to resign by said governor.  The other, a Democrat, elected by a primarily democrat citizenry, being given cover by other democrats in leadership.  Just something I’ve noticed.
 
Lorraine
 
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Subject: [PG-Politics] Re: PGC Liquor Board Chair -- New details
 
 
I have a little bit LESS understanding of the peers of such officials who continue to help cover up their wrongdoing. 

Mel Franklin DUI!
MGM Casino!
MGM Casino!
MGM Casino!
Liquor Board Chair!
MGM Casino!
MGM Casino!

And it seems that a large swath of the public falls for it.  The shiny object syndrome at work.


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