Amplitube 5 Patches
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I this controller specifically so I could start/stop recording in Cubase using the foot switches while using the expression pedal to control AmpliTube volume/wah/etc.- therefore never having to take my hands off the guitar. That would be so cool.
I can control Cubase record/anything with the Line6 so that much works at least. Just for fun I created a midi track with the line6 as input and output to the audio/amplitube track but still nothing- which was no surprise but hey got to do something with all this quarantine time!
Hi folks, looking for help with this. I have Amplitube 5 loaded into an audio track and all works fine. Now I want to control the Wah pedal with my Line 6 foot controller via a USB cable. I right click over the Wah and pick up learn Midi. It then tells me to move a controller to learn. Nothing happens... I tried loading Amplitube on a Midi track and bingo.. the Wha picked up the pedal ok so I wonder why this works on an instrument track but not an audio track. Can anyone help me?
Either use Logic's controller assignments to learn a MIDI message to a plugin control, or use the plugin in the "MIDI FX" mode, which has a bit more convoluted routing, but now will receive incoming MIDI which you can MIDI learn in the plugin directly.
For anyone else, this worked perfectly. You can't use Amplitube 5's wahs, but the Logic wahs sound great and respond to the full range of my expression pedal via the macro control. Configure the Logic wah of your choice as shown in the video, then load Amplitube 5 in the second audio fx slot of the same track and record your guitar and your wah automation on the same track.
My question is how to: "...use Logic's controller assignments to learn a MIDI message to a plugin control"? Is that what is being done in the video posted by supanorton? (Obviously on a different plugin)
Or how do I reduce latency when using the plugin as described in the above video? I am assuming that when des99 is saying to use the plugin in "MIDI FX" mode, he is describing the same process as in the above video.
Yes, that would be my preferred method rather than all this side chaining messing around, I'd expose the wah in amplitube to be automated, i.e right click the wah and pick "Assign Automation - Param 1". (Not map to MIDI as per the other method)
Yeah I had some time to try this out. Had to do a bit of research on macros in general first, but now I know how to do it this way, and I agree (in my limited knowledge) it seems like the best way to do this.
In AT, I assigned the Wah to "param 1", then in the smart controls menu, I found the tab that had some knobs already mapped to AT, and asked the "param 1" knob to learn from my expression pedal (under External Assignment).
I've found that doing it this way also allows you to map multiple parameters to a single expression pedal, so that really opens up some cool possibilities. I had a wah, phaser and an Opto-tremolo intensity knob all linked to my pedal and it was working great. It didn't look like I could invert the control or manage the range, but I didn't dig too deep. It is lots of fun playing around with multiple parameters on one pedal, and the mind boggles at all the combinations.
Actually, I think I have something odd going on since I used to be able to use my expression pedal to control AmpliTube in Logic -- exactly as shown in the "How do I get an Expression Pedal to work in AmpliTube 5 with Logic Pro...??" video from TheSuperFunAwesomeHappyTimePedalShow, as posted above by supanorton -- but now I apparently cannot! ?
I should add that I can merrily assign MIDI control from my expression pedal within the AmpliTube standalone app, and -- in Logic -- I can confirm that I see the appropriate MIDI In stuff in Logic's LCD panel.
But, although I set up a Software Instrument track with AmpliTube 5 in the track's "Instrument" spot, when I then go to assign MIDI within the AmpliTube plugin and "Learn" the wah, the plugin just sits there "waiting for MIDI input" even though I'm moving the expression pedal and can see the MIDI info changing on the LCD's MIDI In section.
Weirdly, if I open another audio track, add an instance of Logic's stock Pedalboard plugin with one of its wah pedals, I can then open the Smart Controls (with the Inspector) and easily use the Learn button to assign my expression pedal to control the "Pedal Position" parameter! (I don't even need to do the macro stuff as described in the "Controlling Pedalboard With An Expression Pedal - Logic Pro X Tutorial" video from Decibel Peak, also posted above.)
And, OK, having just gone through all that, here's something else weird: if I have the AmpliTube plugin loaded on a track, but I have opened the Smart Controls, I find that the LCD stops showing MIDI In information (!) but that my expression pedal is moving the Smart Control "knob" for "Parameter 3", though this is not assigned to anything as far as I know. However, as my expression pedal actually also has a button (like a traditional wah pedal), clicking that does show its input in the LCD's MIDI In, even though it doesn't seem to control anything within the plugin and I can't seem to assign it to control anything via MIDI Learn within the plugin.
So ... this is all very odd an frustrating, especially as I know I made it work before! I have Logic projects from a year or so ago where I recorded wah guitar exactly as shown in the TheSuperFunAwesomeHappyTimePedalShow video -- I just can't get it to work now.
I did some further testing of my own. I found an old project in which I set up and recorded wah guitar using my same expression pedal rig and AmpliTube 5 as shown in the video from TheSuperFunAwesomeHappyTimePedalShow. (I find I had even labeled the audio track "Sweet Wah Guitar Audio" and the controlling Software Instrument track "Sweet Wah Guitar MIDI". ?)
When I play back what I had recorded (the project was last modified in late 2021), I hear the wah guitar -- so, clearly, I had captured the MIDI information from the expression pedal as expected, and that captured/written MIDI info is still processing the DI audio along with the rest of the processing in the AmpliTube plugin. (And the little wah pedal in the plugin moves around appropriately during playback.)
However, if I try to record new wah guitar in the same project, the same expression pedal going through the same AXE I/O interface (both audio and MIDI) doesn't control the pedal -- and I actually do not see MIDI In info in the LCD display when I waggle the expression pedal.
(Weirdly, if I open a completely new project, I also see no MIDI In info when waggling the expression pedal, but I can assign the expression pedal to control a wah from Logic's stock Pedalboard plugin, opening the Smart Controls' Inspector, and clicking External Assignment > Learn; this shows me "Control Change Ch 1, 11, Lo7: Learned", which is exactly what I expect the MIDI control from the expression pedal to do, even though no Ch 1 CC# 11 change info shows up in the LCD!)
In both cases -- the old project with successfully recorded expression pedal MIDI, and any blank new project, clicking the wah-style toggle button on my physical pedal does register its separate MIDI In info in the LCD, and it does actually toggle the AmpliTube wah pedal on/of in the old project, as expected. However, if I load the same AmpliTube preset into a new blank project, even though the LCD Midi In seems to correctly indicate when I press the physical toggle button on the pedal, it refuses to toggle the AmpliTube wah, nor can I assign any MIDI from the pedal's expression treadle or toggle button to anything else within AmpliTube.
I feel like something has changed in the "background" MIDI configuration for Logic that is preventing MIDI from the expression pedal from being registered. Have I by accident permanently assigned MIDI from the pedal's CC# numbers (or something) to something else? I tried things like "Rebuild All Defaults" in the Control Surfaces commands, but it doesn't seem to have made a difference. Clearly, the expression pedal sends MIDI to the Mac (since it controls things as expected in the standalone AmpliTube app, but there is something funny in how Logic is seeing things, where the pedal can be made to control some things even though no MIDI In is registered in the LCD!).
Since you have assigned your cc11 pedal to a smart control, you can no longer record that midi, it's now "reserved" for its controller assignment(s). You could use the "Bypass all Control Surfaces" (main menu Logic Pro > Control Surfaces) function to toggle the functionality...
"Bypass All Control Surfaces" returned the display of CC#11 info to MIDI In on the LCD. I then went into Control Surfaces > Controller Assignments, found what seemed to be the saved assignment, and deleted it. This also seems to have returned the display of CC#11 info to Midi In on the LCD without the need to "Bypass All Control Surfaces".
Then, opening again the old saved project in which I successfully recorded wah guitar as per the TheSuperFunAwesomeHappyTimePedalShow video: yes. Now I can actually control the wah in AmpliTube and hear the results within that project. Yay. ?
But, if I open a blank new project, and make a new "Audio Track + Software Instrument" setup as shown in the TheSuperFunAwesomeHappyTimePedalShow video: no. I cannot control the wah in AmpliTube (even though I have loaded the same AmpliTube preset with the wah already assigned as is in the old project in which it works) although I can otherwise hear the effects of the AmpliTube plugin (and control the wah with my mouse, for what's that's worth). I can still see CC#11 info for MIDI In in the LCD when I waggle the pedal (and, indeed, CC#65 data when I click the toggle switch), so Logic is receiving MIDI data from the expression pedal, and the AmpliTube plugin interface tells me that the wah treadle and on/off switch is assigned to those CC numbers .... It's just not doing anything. ? Likewise, if I delete the pre-existing MIDI assignments in the AmpliTube preset and try to re-assign with MIDI Learn, the plugin just sits there waiting for MIDI data as though nothing were happening, even though I can see the CC#11 info for MIDI In in the LCD.
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