Fwd: Landscape briefing - Clovelly Road Better Block

[Cecilia Nunez]

Dear permies

I will be attending the planning meeting for Landscape this Sunday afternoon.  Please follow this thread and let me know before then how could Perma East contribute to the day.  I thought we could offer edible plants, perhaps even a fruit tree or two in a pot as well as seeds, seed bombs, seedlings and printed info on perma issues.  All ideas are welcome but please be quick, thank you

Warm regards

Cecilia

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From: Phil Stubbs, Clovelly Rd <clovel...@gmail.com>
Date: 3 September 2013 08:56
Subject: Landscape briefing - Clovelly Road Better Block
To: Pip Willis <pipw...@gmail.com>
Cc: dominc...@gmail.com, jeremyc...@hotmail.com, sandraatsy...@hotmail.com, Imogen Shoots <imogen...@yahoo.com.au>, Nicola Cameron <nic...@pepo.com.au>, Barbara Schaffer <Barbara....@services.nsw.gov.au>, ari_an...@hotmail.com, "to...@lasource.com.au" <to...@lasource.com.au>, Cecilia Nunez <nunce...@gmail.com>, syd...@architectureforhumanity.org, jane....@uts.edu.au, Lisa Patroni <li...@creativityunlimited.com>, Russ Grayson <russg...@gmail.com>, josep...@gmail.com, Laura Colloridi <lcoll...@gmail.com>, Jann Hing <jann...@hotmail.com>, David McCrae <da...@mmarchitects.com.au>, Emma McGirr <emma....@live.com.au>, Sara Stace <sta...@gmail.com>, Shelby Burns <shelby...@netscape.net>, Megan Sharkey <me...@megansharkey.com>

Hi, 

Pip - thanks heaps for taking on the lead Landscape (manager) role. Some notes from me here to get you going. Hope they're ok. I'll give you a call too. 

For others cc'd in on this - thought it best you know what's happening in the Landscape area of the Better Block. Plus if you can help Pip with any of the things below, please let him and I know. Landscape is a crucial part of the whole project which is why I'm keen to get things organised well. 

Key goal 

Hope it's ok but I'd like to get the Landscape team to focus on the key job at this stage - which is getting the trees and plants from the Nursuries and on the ground in the right places (on the road and the footpath.) There's a lot of work just in that (per below.) 

Plus if we can do that well it will have a big impact on greening the streetscape - which is what we want long term - a landscape of trees and plants actually in the dirt (cut out of the bitumen and concrete.) The idea of the day is that we do a temporary demonstration of that. And that we show people it's possible to make their own daggy bitumen suburban street greener and better. 

If we still have capacity and time once we've worked all the aspects of this out, we could look at doing other initiatives. If possible I think we should try, if we can, to do a secondary project (outlined further below) with the folks wanting to really dig things up and possibly grow food. At this stage we'd like to hold off on the planters. 

Key tasks (for the Lead Manager) 

Here are the tasks as I see them at this stage: 

Stock 

1. identify exactly what trees and plants we have from Andreasens Nursery and when they're coming 

2. identify exactly what trees and plants we can get from Randwick Council Nursery and when they could be here 

3. identify exactly what trees and plants we can get from 1 (or 2?) other nurseries and when they could be here 

4. compile an inventory of the trees and plants we have (especially by size) 

Delivery and installation 

5. organise the transport in of those trees and plants from each Nursery 

6. develop a schedule of when the trees and plants are coming in and provide to Operations (for them to chase up for you)  

7. work with / ask Operations to get the people who are Muscles to be there and help when plants arrive (Operations to organise them) 

8. put together and brief a mini team from the Landscape crew to oversee Muscles / moving plants on the day (i.e. this Landscape team need to know where things go) 

9. ensure the plants from the different nurseries don't get mixed up (i.e. have a plan) 

Design - work with the Landscape Architect 

10. work with the Traffic team to identify where the 'bulb outs' (curb extensions) will go - Traffic team should lead this decision 

11. work out which are the key trees and plants to make the bulb outs work (in terms of providing barriers / safety) 

12. nut out where the other trees and plants will go 

13. organise a landscape drawing made of the overall plan - with an outline of the plants we know we have in it (particularly the big plants) 

14. provide the landscape plan to key people viz. Operations and Traffic (Operations to then add items and give to other teams) 

Landscape plan 

We have a couple of Landscape Architects who should be able to draw up the plan. Best to also work with David McCrae (Operations) on this. David can then add in other key aspects e.g. furniture, music stages, etc. (David is also an architect.) 

Water: rain garden, storm water tanks, Sydney Water, and a 'Water Manager'   

One thing to be aware of is that we have, like many other places, an issue with water run off - the water here washing the oil, tyre rubber and muck from the road into the ocean just down from here. Barbara Schaffer pointed out that we could and should put in rain gardens ultimately. Ideally when we develop the landscape plan it should include where those rain gardens would go. In fact it'd be great to mock those up for the event with the plants we're getting and maybe put a sign up to let people know that's what we're thinking. The signage team (Lucinda Dryden) could help make that sign and the Landscape Architect could write it.  

The Landscape Architects should play a key role in developing the rain gardens (for the event and later.) 

Great that you've also raised stormwater catchment tanks. Even info there on the day and a rep from a company or Sydney Water would be a good simple start. 

In fact I have a good contact at Sydney Water - the Senior Community Manager Sally Armstrong. They are definitely interested in our project and may able to help with the rain garden and tanks. They also have money and resources. 

It'd be great if someone from the Landscape team took Water on as their own mini project and chased these ideas up. They could be the Water Manager!? Anyone up for it? 

Help / delegation / assistant / team roles   

As you can see there's a lot of fiddly stuff in this. The best way forward I think is for team members to take on one little bit each, with Pip playing Leader and making sure it comes together. 

Pip - I might also be able to also provide with an assistant to help you. I've cc'd Emma McGirr, a UNSW Planning Masters student, as I think she might be interested and would be good. Her number is also 0404 934 800. (Emma lives up the road and should be there this Sunday.) 

If anyone can help Pip in any of the areas raised please let him know. 

I've outlined key roles in the landscape team below. You could tweak or add others. Be great this Sunday if people could stick their hand up for one of the roles and then take it on and make their bit happen. You're welcome bring like-minded friends to help. 

Delivery and installation of trees and plants 

One of the challenges we've got is that I don't think we can leave plants out overnight as they may get pinched. This means we have to put all the plants in on the morning of 27/10. 

This means we need to: 

- have a clear idea of where things are going beforehand 

- have many helpers (Muscles) there on the morning 

- Landscape team ready to direct where things are going on the morning 

- helpers (Muscles) there for the bump out from 3.30pm (Operations should also help make sure we have people) 

We know already the truck from Andreasens is coming early Sunday morning 27/10. We also need to have a clear idea of what's coming when from other Nurseries, and we need to have that organised. 

Pip - if you need help organising all this please let me know. It's going to be important to nail down the detail. The Operations team might be able to take on a chunk of it. Jann's number is 0410 480 410. 

Jann - can you please help Pip? 

(Pip - can you let Pip and I know your number.) 

Secondary project - other side of Beach street roundabout   

There are some folk who are champing at the bit to dig things up and particularly plant food. Great! (It includes Permaculture East people, Russ, and Shelby's contacts.) Think there could be a little off-shoot / sub-group of these guys - the Veg (and fruit trees) team! 

By the way, Costa is also interested in getting involved. It'd be great if someone from the Veg team can chase him up to come on the day, and if possibly get him involved beforehand. (I have his number and email.) 

The Veg team could possibly do something on the grassy bit just on the other side of the Beach Street roundabout. (So crossing over East of the roundabout.) Perhaps they can come up with a plan of what they want to do, plus how it'll work long term (i.e. after the event.) Then I can go with a Veg representative / team leader to speak with the owner down there. 

If people also want to plant natives in that location that could also be good. Might be good to also ask our Landscape Architects (Ari, Nicole or Barbara) which plants they think should go there. 

Think we need to make sure though we have the major project above covered though e.g. in terms of people to help make it happen. 

Wall garden!  

This is not out of the question, though you can see the priority and the work involved above. One thought is that you do a workshop on wall gardens on the day!? If you still have time and energy and helpers, and you got permission, you could start the wall garden on the day of the event to show building it in action. 

The 3 possibilities are the wall on: 

- the other side of the Beach Street roundabout 

- the side of the Upholstery shop on Arden Street 

- the wall on the side of the Creativity Unlimited studio - the little alley (Yes, Lisa and I are up for it!) 

But again, reckon we should make sure we've sorted the big stuff above first. 

Summary of roles raised within the Landscape team 

Be great if people could take on one of these roles and work with Pip (who is Landscape Leader): 

- Landscape Co-ordinator (general assistant to Pip) - Emma 

- Stock Co-ordinator (help Pip do the stock bit above and look after the plants to make sure they're not damaged)  

- Transport Co-ordinator (help Pip do the transport bit above and move things around on the day)

- Location Co-ordinator (help Pip mark the site out the day before the event and get the plants installed) 

- Landscape Architect (to design the overall site and draft the plan) 

- Veg Team Leader 

- Wall Garden Leader 

- Water Manager 

Jann may suggest other roles. Jann is our event management expert will be here this Sunday too. 

Phew - hope you all coped with my mammoth briefing email. This daggy road is going to look brilliant if we can get the plants in here and show others what's possible where they live. 

Really appreciate your help. Hope to see you Sunday, 3pm at Creativity Unlimited studio again. 

Regards, 

Phil 

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Phil Stubbs 

Co-ordinator, Clovelly Road Better Block 

a  335 Clovelly Road, Clovelly NSW 2031 

e  clovel...@gmail.com  

m 0403 517242 

Finally here are some pics to get you thinking. (Hoping we'll have more bigger trees though.) 

 

On 02/09/2013, at 4:58 PM, Pip Willis <pipw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all

I can make the 8th no problem.  Hopefully by then I will have some feed-back from some inquiries I will have made into extra trees and transport.

We also need to think about soil/compost loans for planters, planters (Tom had a great idea with milk crates and coffee bags, or maybe some old tyres from Nino's??) and plants on loan.  We could start a list and hopefully pre-buy as a group, and even a sale or return with a nursery?

We are also waiting to see a proposed plan from the logistics team, so we know roughly how many trees/planters etc.  Laura also suggested utilising a few palettes for the making of booths which could show-case small vertical gardens on the block itself as well has perhaps utilising the big wall between Beach and Flood Streets.

Also between Beach and Flood Streets is our only real green space to showcase a permaculture and veggie plot.  My expertise extends really to just trees, so I would be very keen for someone with more experience than I to take on these things: Permaculture, Veggie, Vertical garden.  (I maybe able to get some help on the VG)

For the longer-term, it would be great to have some stormwater catchment tanks on the block and I think a supplier would probably like the opportunity to showcase one or two, with some small promotional signage perhaps.  Generally, I think anyone or business that is prepared to loan us some stuff should be able to have some signage.

Thoughts for other teams would be a tree ident-quiz for children,  a banner across the start of the block as you come down Clovelly Road, a sand castle competition (judged by photo), and a series of talks of say 15 minutes long on things of interest (I would do trees, with such punchy titles, as how to you know which tree is more democratic than another, and why tree roots are like the Blitzkrieg!)

Warm regards to all, lets do this and do it well.

pip

On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Phil Stubbs, Clovelly Rd <clovel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Cecilia (and others), 

Maybe you can come this Sunday 8 September instead - 3pm at the studio here. We are having a meeting of team leaders, but the Landscape crew could get together and do their thing as well if that works better. (I don't want to push meeting to 22/9 as it's better that we don't loose that time.) By the way, the EcoLiving Fair (on 15/9) may be a good place to rope in further help and resources. 

Pip - Cecilia (from Permaculture East) is a keen, friendly and capable member of the plant team. 

Cecilia - Pip had some great ideas and drive in the Landscape / Plant team yesterday. 

Nicola, Barbara and Ari are all experienced landscape people - we'd love to have you involved! 

I've also cc'd Sara Stace on this as Sara is a key Traffic Team person. The Traffic guys will play a key role in working out where the 'bulb outs' (with greenery in them) will go. The bulb outs (curb extensions) are key to narrowing the street and slowing the traffic. be great if you could make it Sara. 

Hope to catch you all Sunday. Cheers, 

Phil 

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Phil Stubbs 

Co-ordinator, Clovelly Road Better Block 

a  335 Clovelly Road, Clovelly NSW 2031 

e  clovel...@gmail.com  

m 0403 517242 

More about Clovelly Road Better Block: 

https://www.facebook.com/ClovellyRoad/info

On 02/09/2013, at 9:48 AM, Cecilia Nunez <nunce...@gmail.com> wrote:

Good morning Phil

Would it be possible for you to re-schedule meeting of 15 September as that's when the Randwick EcoLiving Fair (http://www.randwick.nsw.gov.au/Your_Council/Whats_happening/Eco-Living_Fair/About_the_Eco-Living_Fair/index.aspx) is happening; Permaculture East and Transition Randwick both have stalls on the fair and I, as well as most members of these groups, have committed to be there all day.

Warm regards

Cecilia

On 2 September 2013 05:56, Phil Stubbs, Clovelly Rd <mediaschoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Cecilia (and Tony, Pip, Shelby and Lisa), 

Great that Permaculture East is keen to get involved in greening Clovelly Road. 

Where you could plant 

There's another meeting up 15 September. Be great to have you (and others) there. There's a spot on Clovelly Road just on the East side of the Beach Street roundabout which might be a possibility for planting. We'd need to talk with the owner right next to it though and get them on board. Lisa knows the owners and I've met them, so we could come down with someone from the Landscape team to talk with them. 

Vertical garden 

The other idea that's been raised is a vertical garden. It could either go at that same spot on the wall. (It's the side of a terrace house.) Or there's another spot on Arden Street - the wall of the upholstery shop (this gets good sun.) In either case we need to get the owner to buy in to the idea. Bit of an unknown how we'd go with upholstery guy, but Lisa and I are willing to go into bat.

Pip Willis who was here yesterday was keen on the vertical garden and has a lot of experience. (Thanks Pip for being keen on this whole project.) 

I've also cc'd Tony Muscio as he was also keen to green things when I met him at the Transitions Randwick meeting. And Shelby Burns as she told me of people champing at the bit to dig things up! 

Where you're located 

Great that you have things to give away. Maybe if you have info (and seeds?) to give away it would make sense to be doing that right there where you are doing the gardening.  

Keeping plants going after the event 

The other thing we'd need to work out is keeping the garden / plants going after the event. Possibilities for this - one or a number of: 

- involving someone who lives right there in the gardening (on the day and on-going) 

- making the place a regular spot for Permaculture East (and Transitions?)  

- planting things that will largely look after themselves? (reckon we can get people to water early on) 

Let us know thoughts on this.  

The big job! (Help humbly and gladly appreciated)

The other thing I raised yesterday was that we're going to have a lot plants coming in for the day. (We may well have in the order of hundreds of plants. Pip?) The Landscape/Plants team are going to need help to organise and position these plants. Any help we can get from Permaculture East and Transitions and others would be very welcome. 

This is really important and would be a big help - as one of the things we want to show locals and visitors is how good it really is when the street becomes green. 

See you at the next meeting. If you can get others on board we'd really appreciate it. And anything you can do on these fronts before the meeting would also be great. 

You're welcome to call me if you have queries. (Often that's quicker and easier!) 

Thanks again, 

Phil 

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Phil Stubbs 

Co-ordinator, Clovelly Road Better Block 

a  335 Clovelly Road, Clovelly NSW 2031 

e  clovel...@gmail.com  

m 0403 517242 

More about Clovelly Road Better Block: 

https://www.facebook.com/ClovellyRoad/info

On 01/09/2013, at 2:50 PM, Cecilia Nunez <nunce...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Phil

Unfortunately won't be able to make it to the meeting today but CRBB was discussed at our Permaculture East meeting last Monday and we would very much want to be a presence on the day.  We can contribute seedlings, plants, design and have seeds, seed bombs, seedlings as well as information on energy saving, gardening and more to give away on the day.

My regards to Lisa and good luck with meeting.

CECILIA for Permaculture East

0412 500 025

On 1 September 2013 11:44, Phil Stubbs (Google Drive) <philipjo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've shared an item with you.

Clo Road - Landscape team

Snapshot of the item below:

Clovelly Road - Landscape Team

This online document is a place for your team to:

(a) see who’s keen on working in the area and their email address & phone number  

(b) brainstorm / pitch in ideas

(c) rank those ideas, see & assign who’s doing what, start to set timelines (Team Leader’s job)

You should also swap contact details at meetings and add mobile numbers here yourselves. Plus you can add other keen people to this document by adding their email.

What’s here is just a start! Over to you guys. Let me know if I can help. Phil.

TEAM

Lisa Patroni (local)

Barbara Schaeffer (local, Head Landscape Architect for NSW)

Lucy Stanton

Pip Willis

Clint Yabuka

Jane Tarran

Dominic Attard

Celia Nunez

Jeremy Critchley

Imogen Schoots

KEY CONTACTS

Matt Leary ( Randwick Council, Supervisor Bushland & Nursery)

Tim Carroll (Andreasens)

KEY INITIATIVES (and WORK IN PROGRESS)

- develop a plan of where plants will go - get plan to Tim at Andreasens

- rope in landscape architects to help provide advice

- research which will be the best plants for the area

- make bulb-outs (curb extensions) using trees - to slow traffic

- use plants as safety barriers

get minimum car widths to Barbara

get Council plan for street (dimensions)to Barbara

get Council strategic plan for the area

check out city streets like ours that have been done well and take photos

e.g. Double Bay, Marrickville

BRAINSTORM IDEAS

Google Drive: create, share and keep all of your stuff in one place.

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Kind regards

Cecilia
nunce...@gmail.com
0412 500 025
P.O.Box 135
Coogee 2034

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Kind regards

Cecilia
nunce...@gmail.com
0412 500 025
P.O.Box 135
Coogee 2034

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www.sydneytreecare.com.au

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Kind regards

Cecilia
nunce...@gmail.com
0412 500 025
P.O.Box 135
Coogee 2034