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Aaron Trevena

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Dec 22, 2008, 6:16:04 AM12/22/08
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http://www.perlfoundation.org/press_release_archive

wtf ?

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Andy Lester

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Dec 22, 2008, 10:09:48 AM12/22/08
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On Dec 22, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Aaron Trevena wrote:

> http://www.perlfoundation.org/press_release_archive
>
> wtf ?


What's the point of this message?

If you're trying to make things happen, I'd suggest that there are far
better ways than insulting hostility.

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Philippe Bruhat

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Dec 22, 2008, 10:22:07 AM12/22/08
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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:09:48AM -0600, Andy Lester wrote:
>
> If you're trying to make things happen, I'd suggest that there are far
> better ways than insulting hostility.

Speaking of things happening, I was wondering why the following
information:

http://www.hsyndicate.org/news/4039070.html

was not yet relayed on the usual Perl info channels (use.perl, perlbuzz,
perlfoundation, etc).

Disclaimer: I work for Booking.com.

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Philippe Bruhat

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Dec 22, 2008, 10:26:29 AM12/22/08
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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 04:22:07PM +0100, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:09:48AM -0600, Andy Lester wrote:
> >
> > If you're trying to make things happen, I'd suggest that there are far
> > better ways than insulting hostility.
>
> Speaking of things happening, I was wondering why the following
> information:
>
> http://www.hsyndicate.org/news/4039070.html
>
> was not yet relayed on the usual Perl info channels (use.perl, perlbuzz,
> perlfoundation, etc).
>
> Disclaimer: I work for Booking.com.

Disclaimer the second: Perl news are happening so fast that the use perl
post went below my viewing window.

I'll now shut up in shame.

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ReneeB

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Dec 22, 2008, 10:49:20 AM12/22/08
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Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:09:48AM -0600, Andy Lester wrote:
>
>> If you're trying to make things happen, I'd suggest that there are far
>> better ways than insulting hostility.
>>
>
> Speaking of things happening, I was wondering why the following
> information:
>
> http://www.hsyndicate.org/news/4039070.html
>
> was not yet relayed on the usual Perl info channels

We have it on the german news site:
http://perl-nachrichten.de/index.cgi/details/383

> (use.perl,

you can post it to use.perl yourself. I'm sure that someone would put it
on the frontpage

> perlbuzz,
>

Do you have sent an email to Andy?

> perlfoundation, etc).
>
> Disclaimer: I work for Booking.com.
>
>


Cheers,
Renee

Dave Cross

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Dec 22, 2008, 11:06:03 AM12/22/08
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I suspect that what you actually meant to say there was:

"I see that TPF seems to be having problems keeping its archive or press
releases up to date. Or, perhaps it doesn't have the resources to
produce the number of press releases that it wants to. Either way, I'd
love to help out. So does anyone know who I should contact?"

hth,

Dave...

Denny de la Haye

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Dec 22, 2008, 11:20:11 AM12/22/08
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On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 16:06 +0000, Dave Cross wrote:
> "I see that TPF seems to be having problems keeping its archive or press
> releases up to date. Or, perhaps it doesn't have the resources to
> produce the number of press releases that it wants to. Either way, I'd
> love to help out. So does anyone know who I should contact?"

On a related note, I have a shiny new Perl advocacy site which is
awaiting logo-related trademark feedback from TPF - who don't seem to
have replied to their email from last week yet. Does anybody know of a
good contact person I could try directly, in case the
trad...@perlfoundation.org address isn't being particularly closely
monitored at present? Or is 'not quite a week' terribly impatient of
me?

Regards,
Denny


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Brian D Foy

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Dec 22, 2008, 10:17:19 PM12/22/08
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In article <494FB700...@renee-baecker.de>, ReneeB
<mailin...@renee-baecker.de> wrote:

> you can post it to use.perl yourself. I'm sure that someone would put it
> on the frontpage

Renée already knows this, but:

People can always submit stories http://use.perl.org/submit.pl

Press releases never magically make it into any channel. PR people make
friends then pester them to run their story. Geeks, on the other hand,
think the merit of a story will carry it.

And, if someone has Perl news but doesn't want to do the work, just
send me the details and I'll write about it.

Brian D Foy

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Dec 22, 2008, 10:14:39 PM12/22/08
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In article <20081222152207.GC8591@plop>, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
<philipp...@free.fr> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:09:48AM -0600, Andy Lester wrote:
> >
> > If you're trying to make things happen, I'd suggest that there are far
> > better ways than insulting hostility.
>
> Speaking of things happening, I was wondering why the following
> information:
>
> http://www.hsyndicate.org/news/4039070.html
>
> was not yet relayed on the usual Perl info channels (use.perl, perlbuzz,
> perlfoundation, etc).

It was posted to the front page of Use.perl on the same day:

http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=08/12/15/1334253

Brian D Foy

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Dec 22, 2008, 10:22:55 PM12/22/08
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In article
<1229962811.6...@starbug.city.digitalcraftsmen.net>, Denny de
la Haye <de...@digitalcraftsmen.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 16:06 +0000, Dave Cross wrote:
> > "I see that TPF seems to be having problems keeping its archive or press
> > releases up to date. Or, perhaps it doesn't have the resources to
> > produce the number of press releases that it wants to. Either way, I'd
> > love to help out. So does anyone know who I should contact?"
>
> On a related note, I have a shiny new Perl advocacy site which is
> awaiting logo-related trademark feedback from TPF

Contact anyone who's posted to http://news.perlfoundation.org, or all
of them. :)

And, does anyone get a peek at your new site? :)

Andy Lester

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Dec 22, 2008, 10:25:29 PM12/22/08
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On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:22 PM, brian d foy wrote:

> Contact anyone who's posted to http://news.perlfoundation.org, or all
> of them. :)


But please consider what the contact is going to be.

"Hey, your press release page is out of date" isn't very useful. I
guarantee you everyone at TPF is aware of that.

Brian D Foy

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Dec 22, 2008, 10:20:25 PM12/22/08
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In article <494FBAEB...@dave.org.uk>, Dave Cross
<da...@dave.org.uk> wrote:

> "I see that TPF seems to be having problems keeping its archive or press
> releases up to date. Or, perhaps it doesn't have the resources to
> produce the number of press releases that it wants to. Either way, I'd
> love to help out. So does anyone know who I should contact?"

Well, honestly, it's not that simple. Even the people that do want to
help wrestle with the web strategy and various levels of approval and
permission they need to get to do something. It's readily apparent who
the contactsw should be, but getting past the offer to help is a pretty
high barrier.

I suspect someone with the right sets of permissions needs to trim the
website and point major portions of it to the wiki, which solves most
of those problems.

Dave Cross

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Dec 23, 2008, 1:46:28 AM12/23/08
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brian d foy wrote:
> In article <494FBAEB...@dave.org.uk>, Dave Cross
> <da...@dave.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> "I see that TPF seems to be having problems keeping its archive or press
>> releases up to date. Or, perhaps it doesn't have the resources to
>> produce the number of press releases that it wants to. Either way, I'd
>> love to help out. So does anyone know who I should contact?"
>
> Well, honestly, it's not that simple. Even the people that do want to
> help wrestle with the web strategy and various levels of approval and
> permission they need to get to do something. It's readily apparent who
> the contactsw should be, but getting past the offer to help is a pretty
> high barrier.

Oh, I'm totally awar of all that. I was just trying to point out that an
offer of help is likely to be better received than just saying "wtf".

Dave...


Denny de la Haye

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Dec 23, 2008, 5:12:28 AM12/23/08
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On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 19:22 -0800, brian d foy wrote:
> Denny de la Haye <de...@digitalcraftsmen.net> wrote:
> > On a related note, I have a shiny new Perl advocacy site which is
> > awaiting logo-related trademark feedback from TPF
>
> Contact anyone who's posted to http://news.perlfoundation.org, or all
> of them. :)

I'd rather not annoy people.

> And, does anyone get a peek at your new site? :)

Sure. I don't want to post the URL publicly until the trademark thing
is sorted out, but I'll send you it off-list. Anyone else who wants it
is welcome to ping me off-list also.

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