Help Needed in Sorting and Updating the List of Perl Mailing Lists
Shlomi Fish
I was doing a regular update for http://perl-begin.org/ when I updated
http://perl-begin.org/mailing-lists/ and noticed that it still linked to the
old Mailing lists' database at list.cpan.org. Now I learned on the CPAN
Testers mailing list that Gabor started creating a better list here:
http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?mailing_lists
I linked to it as the first link on the perl-begin page, but noticed that it
could still use a lot of work. I've done some of it now myself, but we could
use more help.
Here's what you need to do:
1. Go over the mailing_lists_[123456] pages and pick up a mailing list entry.
2. File it in the wiki under its own page or a related one. Link to that page
from the topology on
http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?mailing_lists .
3. Make sure to include a "^^ [Mailing lists] " header+link above the mailing
lists' entries, so the mailing lists page will have an incoming link.
4. See if the entry of the mailing list is up-to-date, and if not - STFW for
the up-to-date location and update it in the wiki.
5. Add some links and information on the topic at hand if it's a new or a stub
page.
You can also do the same for new mailing lists that aren't present in the
originally copied lists.
This way we'll have an up-to-date database of mailing lists as well as a more
populated wiki.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
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Elaine Ashton
On May 11, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I was doing a regular update for http://perl-begin.org/ when I updated
> http://perl-begin.org/mailing-lists/ and noticed that it still
> linked to the
> old Mailing lists' database at list.cpan.org. Now I learned on the
> CPAN
> Testers mailing list that Gabor started creating a better list here:
Well, nobody asked for the data nor did anyone ever offer updates.
I've maintained for quite some time that it should be tied to the list
configuration from the perl.org listserv, but that never happened. I
gave an account to someone a long while back for such work but they
didn't do the work they offered to do.
I guess it wouldn't be perl if 10 websites containing slightly
different information weren't around but you can have the mysql tables
or dumps if you want them.
e.
Elaine Ashton
On May 11, 2009, at 5:37 PM, David Golden wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Elaine Ashton <eas...@mac.com>
> wrote:
>> Well, nobody asked for the data nor did anyone ever offer updates.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/r26sxy
> http://tinyurl.com/o2fufa
> http://tinyurl.com/osbcmv
Sorry, I don't hang out on that list, not to mention I had an infant
at the time anyway. *shrug* People sure don't try very hard....I'm
pretty easy to find.
e.
Elaine Ashton
On May 11, 2009, at 6:37 PM, David Golden wrote:
>
> I don't object to you being busy -- it happens to all of us -- but
> blaming others for not trying hard enough is absurd.
You probably aren't in the middle of a trans-con move, starting a new
job, etc in addition to the baby. I mean, sure, why shouldn't I have
spent what precious little time I had to myself scanning all the perl
mailing lists for people suddenly taking an interest in stuff I did
years ago? That's what my husband is for. I'm getting old and in a
community as generally thankless as this one is, you'll have to try a
little harder at guilting me over really being too busy at the time to
have noticed.
My name was mentioned and my husband is also pretty easy to find.
Again, people just tend to complain as it's easier than focusing on
the solution. If someone wants the data, I've offered the tables. If
you have a better site, it can be hosted where the old one is or I'm
sure we reassign the DNS. It's really not worth looking at my date
book for how I spent my time in early 2007.
e.
Elaine Ashton
On May 11, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Bill Ward wrote:
>
> I think the blame game is silly here - we should be looking for
> solutions moving forward, not who's fault things are. The best
> thing to do now, IMHO, would be to either change the hosting or keep
> it where it is but grant access to let others help maintain it. Is
> that an option you'd consider?
Oh, getting upbraided for having a baby and not having time to read
email is amusement I could only get from perl. :)
I laid out the options and yes, I've given accounts to people before
and I can still if there are interested parties.
e.
Gabor Szabo
I am sorry I write only now but I was busy.
So I was the one who copied the data and I am sorry I did not ask you
Elaine first to access the database.
Guys please, let's not play the blaming game. That does not lead to any
good place.
If I can get access to the database I might be able to update the data a bit.
If I can get the data dump I am ok with hosting the site assuming both
you Elaine
and Ask and Robert and whoever else has a say in it agree.
AFAIK both lists.perl.org and lists.cpan.org show the same content but
currently
they point to different IP addresses.
regards
Gabor