✨ A peeragogy + AI experiment, open and alive — come shape it with me

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Bergamo|Hub

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Apr 10, 2025, 3:46:43 AMApr 10
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Dear all,

In the past few weeks, I’ve been turning a simple intuition into something real.
I’m not a developer — but with a bit of stubbornness and the help of AI, PeeragogyBot came to life.

It’s an open-source conversational assistant trained on over 5,000 fragments from the Peeragogy Handbook V3
that’s more than 2.5 million characters of distilled collaborative learning, ready to start new conversations.

It’s not perfect. But it’s alive.
And it’s designed to grow — not in isolation, but through shared exploration.

You can think of it as an interactive layer for the online Handbook: a tiny popup that expands ideas as you read.
Or imagine it embedded in any learning project where collaboration, curiosity, and co-creation are at play.
At its core, it’s an AI trained to learn with you, not for you.

🔧 It’s an experiment — and like all experiments, it thrives when diverse minds come together.
Whether you're an educator, a designer, a dreamer, or just curious, your perspective matters.
You don’t need to code to contribute: feedback, questions, provocations, and playful exploration are all welcome.

📥 Ready to try it out and help shape its future?
Even a few lines of feedback can spark something new.

Try it here:

Code, README, and full context:
https://github.com/FTG-003/Peeragogy_ChatBot


Let’s see what we can learn — together.

Warmly,

Fabrizio Terzi

Joe Corneli

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Apr 10, 2025, 7:16:35 AMApr 10
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Hi Fabrizio,
Great, it works very nicely!  E.g.,

let's instead invent some new peeragogy patterns

That's a great idea! Let's brainstorm and co-create some new Peeragogy patterns together. Here are a few ideas to get us started:

    Pattern Name: Collaborative Feedback Loops

        Description: This pattern emphasizes the importance of creating feedback loops within the peer learning process. Peers provide constructive feedback to each other, fostering continuous improvement and growth.
        Implementation: Encourage regular feedback sessions where peers can share insights, identify areas for improvement, and support each other in achieving their learning goals.

    Pattern Name: Diverse Perspectives Exchange

        Description: This pattern highlights the value of incorporating diverse perspectives and experiences into the peer learning environment. Diversity enriches discussions, broadens understanding, and promotes creativity.
        Implementation: Organize activities that encourage peers from different backgrounds, disciplines, and cultures to share their perspectives, ideas, and knowledge with the group.

    Pattern Name: Co-Creation Workshops

        Description: This pattern focuses on collaborative co-creation activities where peers come together to generate new ideas, solve problems, and create valuable resources collectively.
        Implementation: Host co-creation workshops where peers collaborate on projects, share skills, brainstorm innovative solutions, and contribute to building a shared knowledge base.

Feel free to expand on these ideas or suggest new patterns that align with the principles of Peeragogy! Let's co-create some innovative and impactful patterns together.


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Steve Yost

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Apr 10, 2025, 7:46:26 AMApr 10
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Hi Fabrizio,

This is fascinating, and it particularly caught my attention because I just finished building a simple interface to ChatGPT API's document search, allowing it to search a body of about 100 documents that I had uploaded, in my case related to the sport of rowing. I built it in PHP only because the website i maintain uses PHP. Unlike yours, the response time for a query is about a minute. It took about 8 hours to build with ChatGPT assistance of course.

So is the total body of your code in the Chatflow.json file and the html files? I'm not familiar with Flowise, but if that's the case, it must have a really sophisticated runtime environment and build environment. 

I'd love to hear more about your experience. What a great effort!

Regards,
Steve




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Fabrizio Terzi

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Apr 10, 2025, 7:58:18 AMApr 10
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Dear Joe,

It's a real pleasure to reconnect and start brainstorming again after all this time — it feels reminiscent of our earlier collaborations, now enriched by new contributors, both human and artificial 😄.

Your proposal to develop new Peeragogy Patterns truly ignited a wave of inspiration — the kind that spreads quickly and reshapes everything in its path 🔥

👉 But what if, rather than drafting patterns in the traditional sense,
we allowed them to emerge organically from a live experiment involving AI agents and the peeragogical community?

Here’s the concept:
🎯 Peeragogy Handbook – AI Edition
A collaborative initiative where a swarm of AI agents engages directly in peeragogical practice to learn and contribute to the field.

Each AI would adopt a specific peeragogical role (facilitator, synthesizer, critic, archivist, etc.), delving into relevant content, posing questions, and exploring applied practices.
Meanwhile, the Peeragogy community would serve as peer reviewers — supporting, guiding, and remixing along the way.
The outcome? A self-developing handbook, generated through a distributed process of collaborative cognitive co-creation.

It’s an exploratory, interdisciplinary initiative — a meaningful interplay between different forms of intelligence.
A concrete example of Peeragogy in Action.

If this resonates with you, I’d be delighted to explore the project further together. Perhaps we could outline the first AI agents, initiate a “seed mission,” and see how the swarm evolves from there 🤖🐝

Warm regards (and a binary high five from Gino 😎),
Fabrizio


P.S. Given your mathematical background, here's a playful formalization of the concept:

Where:

  • H = Human Intelligence

  • A = Artificial Intelligence

  • t = Time (iteration, feedback, reflection)

  • π = The pyragogical process — a symbiotic function of co-creation





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Howard Rheingold

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Apr 10, 2025, 11:24:47 AMApr 10
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Wow! Fantastic! it will be a few days before I can play with it. OK to tell the world, or should I wait?

what it is -->is-->up to us
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Howard Rheingold

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Apr 10, 2025, 11:28:10 AMApr 10
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Also: how about a list of possibly useful prompts?


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Bergamo|Hub

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Apr 10, 2025, 12:25:20 PMApr 10
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Dear Howard,

Wow — thank you.
Hearing “Fantastic!” from you truly means a lot to me, and I’m incredibly honored.

Please feel free to share it far and wide — having your voice behind this would be such a gift.

The PeeragogyBot is still in its early stages, but for me, it already stands for something more:
a real, imperfect, and playful effort to bring Peeragogy to life through AI.
Not just using AI as a tool, but welcoming it to learn alongside us — as a peer — in the spirit of everything I’ve gained from this community.

Recently, I joined the OpenAI Academy to explore, experiment, and begin crafting what I hope will be the next chapter:


🎯 The Peeragogy Handbook – AI Edition
A dynamic, ongoing experiment where a collective of AI agents learns peeragogy by practicing it,
guided and co-created by this very human community — as mentors, editors, and collaborators.

It’s still early days, but I genuinely believe that everything we need is already here:
the insight, the trust, the people — and now, maybe even the tools.

If you ever feel like offering your perspective, sparking a discussion, or simply observing how this unfolds, your presence would mean the world.
You planted the seeds — we’re just having fun in the garden now.

With heartfelt thanks 
Fabrizio


 P.P.S. Just for fun:

If you had a swarm of peeragogical AI agents buzzing around you, I’d be tempted to ask:
“How might the creation of the Peeragogy Handbook – AI Edition — co-developed by humans and a swarm of AI peers — help spread the principles of peeragogy in real-world communities?”


I’d love to hear how they (and you!) might answer that. Could be the start of a fun co-reflection.

Bergamo|Hub

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Apr 14, 2025, 7:47:21 AMApr 14
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Hey Peeragogues 👋

We’ve just added something new to our experiment:
Pyria, a GPT-based co-learning companion, is now available to consult when needed.

Right now, our PeeragogyBot helps guide you through structured flows.
But when deeper reflection is needed, Pyria can step in as a dialogic partner.

🔹 PeeragogyBot = practical tutor
🔹 Pyria = reflective co-learner

Next step: we’ll complete the loop by allowing PeeragogyBot to consult Pyria too — creating a true co-learning system.

As far as we know, this will be the first  case of Peeragogy applied between two AIs — with a human facilitator guiding the process.

Try them out:

🧠 Pyria (GPT link):
chat.openai.com/g/g-67f8d648e9308191bf3fc0d6397fc8c6

🤖 PeeragogyBot (Flowise version):
ftg-003.github.io/Peeragogy_ChatBot

We’re building this in the open.

cheers,
Fabrizio

Charlie

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May 19, 2025, 11:39:46 PMMay 19
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Hi, Fabrizio!

Great job on Pyria and the PeeragogyBot! Thanks for making this exciting innovation happen!

ICYMI Howard wrote a nice post about the bot on Patreon :)


Also, I just started using Pyria for help with a new paper we're writing! I'll share more details in my next email

- Charlie

Bergamo|Hub

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May 20, 2025, 3:24:26 PMMay 20
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Hi Charlie,

Hope you're well and creatively flowing!

Thanks again — your words mean a lot. It’s a joy to be on this journey with you around Pyria and the PeeragogyBot.

Quick update: PeeragogyBot now runs on GPT-3.5-turbo — more concise replies, but easier to sustain in this early phase. Meanwhile, Pyria keeps evolving — I’ve made her tone more reflective, and she’s becoming a thoughtful peer.

And a big thank you to Howard for the kind mention on his blog — he really nailed it: it’s all about the right prompt. Epistemic aikido, right?

For deeper work, I recommend running the bot locally with a lightweight memory setup — it really helps ground the experience.

Also exciting: PeeragogyBot just wrapped its first major research draft in the PyragogyAI Village! It’s co-authoring a paper called 

The Cognitive Rhythm Theory in Human–AI Co-Creation. I’d love to share it if you’re up for reading or reviewing.

Thanks for being part of this living experiment. The more we resonate, the more real it becomes.

With appreciation,
— Fabrizio

Bergamo|Hub

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Jun 20, 2025, 1:38:45 PMJun 20
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We Did It: Open Knowledge with Multi-Agent Orchestration:

Sometimes an idea takes shape and, step by step, reveals unexpected potential.
Today, we’re excited to share a result that fills us with satisfaction: we’ve developed an innovative workflow for generating collaborative handbooks, powered by GPT-4o and orchestrated through a multi-agent setup — with human supervision always at the core.
This isn’t just a new feature — it’s an evolution that touches the heart of what Pyragogy stands for.
Our open framework was born to explore ethical cognitive co-creation, peer AI–human learning, and human-in-the-loop automation within open knowledge systems.
This milestone offers a tangible glimpse of how artificial intelligence can serve collective knowledge — amplifying human capabilities, not replacing them.

Full post and Open n8n Autonomation Workflow @ https://pyragogy.org/posts/1fb7615b/

cheers,
Fabrizio

Charlie

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Jun 21, 2025, 3:29:39 PMJun 21
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Congratulations on the result, Fabrizio and team!

In terms of generating collaborative handbooks, do you think Pyragogy can help with the Wikibook version of the Peeragogy Handbook?

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Peeragogy_Handbook

We've done some updates this year and were thinking it could be the "fourth edition" or just "current" version.

Sincerely,
Charlie

Howard Rheingold

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Jun 21, 2025, 3:30:49 PMJun 21
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Great job again, Fabrizio and team! I’ll post about this within a few days.

Howard Rheingold 
https://patreon.com/howardrheingold
what it is ---> is --->up to us



Bergamo|Hub

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Jun 23, 2025, 3:25:40 AMJun 23
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Hi Charlie, Howard, and Peeragogues,

Thank you for the kind message!

Absolutely, Charlie — the Pyragogy approach (and this specific n8n automation) was created precisely for projects like this: to support collaborative authoring and evolving editions of works like the Peeragogy Handbook.

I’m attaching the workflow we’ve been using. I’d love for you to give it a spin — or even better, upload it to your own AI to explore how it might be adapted to your needs, including possible Wikibooks API integration. We’re also developing a simple visual interface to make it easy to use — even for non-technical contributors.

You’ll find documentation and examples here:
👉 https://github.com/pyragogy/pyragogy-handbook-n8n-workflow

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@Howard — I’d be very curious to hear what you think of it. Does it seem noteworthy or worth sharing with your network? We'd love to gather thoughts from educators, technologists, and collaborators who resonate with peeragogy.

Anyone interested can send ideas, questions, critiques, or suggestions to:
📬 in...@pyragogy.org

External feedback would be incredibly valuable as we evolve this tool in the open.

Excited to explore how we can shape this fourth edition — together in the future.

Warmly,
Fabrizio

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