February 24th 2025 Peeragogy Monday Meetup Project Action Review (PAR)

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Hi, Peeragogues!

Here is the Project Action Review (PAR) from the Monday Meetup about six days ago. The rough draft of this PAR was taken on our Etherpad https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/peeragogy/timeslider#7311

The attendees were: Cris (C), Mary (M), Joe (J), and Charlie D (CD).

If you are available, please join us tomorrow 3/3/2025 at
  • 9 AM Eastern Standard Time (EST)
  • 2 PM Coordinated Universal Time (UTC/GMT)
We'll be chatting on Jitsi

https://meet.jit.si/peeragogy

== 1. Review the intention: what do we expect to learn or make together? ==
  • Joe (J): Came here expecting to discuss Charlie's comic book paper
  • Charlie D (CD): I came expecting to share an update about our comic book pattern paper for PLoP 2024 conference proceedings
  • Cris (C): Came with a question about the peeragogy handbook and expecting to be more active in conversation
  • Mary (M): Prepared to talk about papers in progress
== 2. Establish what is happening: what and how are we learning? ==
  • C: was more active in the conversation today!
  • CD: planning to get final versions of papers submitted tonight
  • C: Some story telling about how we learn
== 3. What are some different perspectives on what’s happening? ==
  • J: Talking about a variety of topics we became very creative (wikipedia, language, music)
  • When you agree with virtual avatar, character it's like a peer
== 4. What did we learn or change? ==
  • CD: Consequences of creating an environment that has a "culture of mistakes" for learning; if mistakes are not OK, people learn differently and are less willing to take risks than in other environments.
  • J: How much freedom do people want/need for learning?  Some will want more structure, some will want more freedom.  Maybe also for topics! Can happen in piano lessons
  • C: it's not making mistake is the problem ... it's worry about how the mistake will be perceived
  • J:"No you are WRONG!" => more afraid.  Or "Oh, how interesting that you have discovered a new way to do this!"
  • C: based on a person's past experiences with making mistakes while learning indicates their willingness to make future mistakes
  • J: culture of where learning occurred, some math courses encourage questions, others have students silently listen
  • J: Being lost when listening is a loss of control ... the need to be in control creates tension!
  • J: If you were a child, you wouldn't understand any of this, but you would grow and start understanding
  • M: Also sometimes people try to intentionally have you not understand
  • C: Enforced perspective that this is a very supportive group :)
== 5. What else should we change going forward? ==
  • Explore more the idea Joe suggested about characters in a story being peers, especially considering their perspective
https://anitaloughrey.blog/2019/06/07/point-of-view/
  • Update Wikibook edition of Handbook to include more recent content from 3rd Edition on the website
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Peeragogy_Handbook

https://peeragogy.org/
  • J: Feels more confident going into his open research handbook session, giving people more of a chance to talk
https://orbook.github.io/
  • C: Incorporate Cris' suggestion of how cooperative games are another way to get everyone involved in a class into the comic book PLoP paper ... things that put the action in the person watching the class is better ... moves them from passive to active 
- Charlie
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