MACLEAN, Rt Hon Baroness ((Joan) Elizabeth nee MANN) 1923-2021

[Richard R]

From the Telegraph of 23 Oct 2021: MACLEAN Elizabeth the Lady Maclean, died peacefully at home on 17th October, aged 98. She was very much loved by all her family and many friends. Funeral at The Chapel Royal, Hampton Court Palace on 8th November at 2.30 p.m. No flowers please, but donations to Cancer Research UK

She was d of Francis Thomas MANN 1888-1964 (s of Sir Edward MANN 1st Bt 1854-1943) and Enid Agnes 1888-1976 d of George Adams TILNEY. She m 1941 the LP Baron MACLEAN KT GCVO KBE PC & 11th Bt 1916-90, and had a son (the present 12th Bt b 1942) and a dau.

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I understand that the funeral has been delayed til 22nd November. and that the internment will be on the Isle of Mull.

[Richard R]

From the Telegraph of 1 Nov 2021: Elizabeth the Lady Maclean. Her funeral has been postponed from 8th November to 22nd November at the Chapel Royal Hampton Court Palace at 2.30 p.m. No flowers please.

[Henry W]

From the Court Circular:

22 November 2021

Windsor Castle

The Queen was represented by The Countess of Wessex at the Funeral of the Lady Maclean which was held in the Chapel Royal, Hampton Court Palace, East Molesey, Surrey, this afternoon.

[WilliamD]

In the Peerage News Blogspot, Lord and Lady Maclean are referred to as Baron Maclean and as The Baroness Maclean.

My understanding is that ‘Baroness’ in the UK means someone who has been made a Life Peer, and the wife of a Life Peer is never referred to as ‘baroness’.  Continental usage is different.

Was Chips, Lord Maclean, ever referred to as ‘Baron Maclean’, except in the citation?  Surely he was always called ‘Lord Maclean’?  I think this applies to all Life Peers.

The Court Circular certainly seems not to use 'Baroness.

Have I got that right?

[sven_me...@web.de]

A life peer is alwas a Baron and Lord and his wife Baroness AND Lady

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Also depends on how formal the situation is !

[Observer]

Really, the word "baron" is only to be used in the full legal recitation of the title or in phrases such as "the house is owned by Lord Bloggs, the 13th baron". It's certainly not to be used before the title either socially or in news reports. The Daily Telegraph is becoming a bit slack in letting things slip through, such as "Baron King of Lothbury" (6 November) and "Baron Heywood" (25 November). Things are not helped by the fact that the "Baron Bloggs" formula is wrongly used by Wikipedia in its headings, and Wiki is the place where many journalists check things. Wiki is simply misleading on this.