Smith of Eardiston Baronetcy

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In messages on this group as recently as 2018 ("Baronetcies to which succession has not been proved") the Smith of Eardiston Baronetcy became dormant in 2000, presumably with the death of Christopher Sydney Winwood Smith (1906-2000), called the 5th Bt.

 

However, Debrett's 2011 says that his line was actually the result of a bigamous marriage, and that the title actually became extinct in 1993, the last three de jure Baronets likely not even knowing that they were entitled to it.

 

Debrett's says that this was acknowledged by the Registrar of the Baronetage in 2008.

 

Does the most recent Debrett's agree with this?

 

 

Here is the genealogy:

 

Sir William Smith, of Eardiston, cr Baronet 1809, d.1821; m.10 Oct 1780 Mary Wheeler

1.Sir Christopher Sidney, 2^nd Bt. (14 May 1798-7 Aug 1839); m.1^st 30 Dec 1822 Mary Foley (d.1 Dec 1833); m.2^nd Dec 1837 Mrs Harriette Murphy, née Lee (dsp Apr 1840)

1.1.Sir William, 3^rd Bt. (5 Oct 1823-4 Jan 1893); m.1^st 5 May 1843 Susan (d.30 Apr 1892), dau of Sir William George Parker, 2^nd Bt.; m.2^nd 1892 Helen Agnes Houseman (dsp 4 May 1914)

1.1.1.Christopher Sydney Winwood (24 Jan 1846-1886 [1887, per Debrett’s]); m.16 May 1870 Anne Mogan; he then married bigamously 10 Aug 1877 Caroline Holland

[issue of C S W Smith’s legal marriage]:

1.1.1.1.Sir William Sidney Winwood, de jure 4^th Bt. (16 Oct 1872-1954); m.1901 Mary Helen Griffiths; it is likely that he never knew that his parents were married and that he was entitled to the Baronetcy; the de jure 5^th and 6^th Baronets likely also did not know that they were entitled to it

1.1.1.1.1.Sidney Richard, de jure 5^th Bt. (1907-1983); m.1941 Alice May Liddy

1.1.1.1.1.1.Margaret Helen (1944-    ); m.1966 Paul St.Clair Morrow (d.1993)

1.1.1.1.2. – 1.1.1.1.6. five daus

1.1.1.2. – 3. two daus

 

[issue of C S W Smith’s bigamous marriage]:

1.1.1.4.William Sydney Winwood (1 Apr 1879-Jul 1953); m.27 Jul 1905 Caroline Harris (d.1938); he has been listed as 4^th Bt. in Burke’s Peerage, at least until quite recently

1.1.1.4.1.Christopher Sydney Winwood (20 Sep 1906-3 Dec 2000); m.1932 Phyllis Berenice O'Grady; he has been listed as 5^th Bt. in Burke’s Peerage, at least until quite recently

1.1.1.4.1.1.Christopher Sydney Winwood (1933-5 Aug 1937)

1.1.1.4.1.2.Robert Christopher Sydney Winwood (1939-    ); m.1971 Roslyn Nellie McKensie --> 1 son, 1 dau

1.1.1.4.1.3.Hugh William Standish Winwood (1942-    ); m.1966 Clare Philomena Stinson à 2 sons, 2 daus

1.1.1.4.1.4.Terence John Winwood (1944-    ); m.1967 Helen June McLeod à 2 sons, 1 dau

1.1.1.4.1.5.Matthew Roy Winwood (1947-    ); m.1975 Janette Lefevre Truman à 1 son

1.1.1.4.1.6.David Anthony Winwood (1949-    ); m.1976 Judith Chaffey à 2 sons

1.1.1.4.1.7.Ronald James Thomas Winwood (1951-    ); m.1976 Rhonda Jean Raine à 2 sons,1 dau

1.1.1.4.1.8.Villette Mary Winwood (1935-    ); m.1961 Roger Hore

1.1.1.4.1.9.Helen Eve Winwood (1936-    ); m.1957 Arthur Sydney Macalpine

1.1.1.4.1.10.Frances Caroline Winwood (1941-    ); m.1973 Kenneth James Hebblewhite

1.1.1.4.2.Rupert William Winwood (4 Sep 1908-    ); m.17 Aug 1940 Nancia Jean Margaret Cave à 2 sons, 1 dau

1.1.1.5.Maud Agnes Winwood

1.1.1.6.Dorothy Winwood

 

1.1.2.William Arthur Winwood (3 Nov 1854-22 May 1928); m.6 Oct 1886 Harriet Cowland (d.5 Nov 1942)

1.1.2.1.Christopher William Winwood (28 Mar 1893-6 Apr 1969); m.1916 Alice Muriel Garside (d.20 Apr 1969)

1.1.2.1.1.Antony Winwood (1920-1993); he was de jure 6^th Bt. from 1983 until 1993

1.1.2.1.2.Pauline Muriel Winwood (1918-    ); m.1^st 1949 James Mayhew; m.2^nd 1977 Richard Tudor Archer

1.1.2.2.Constance Evelyn Winwood; m.6 Jun 1921 Leonard Tolcher Tracey

1.1.2.3.Gladys Pauline Winwood, d.2 Dec 1947

1.1.3.Mary Agnes Winwood, d.19 Oct 1932; m.1^st 20 Apr 1881 Rev. Sir Thomas Collingwood Hughes, 8^th Bt. (12 Aug 1800-22 May 1889); m.2^nd Nov 1890 Robert Halliday Gunning (d.22 Mar 1900)

1.1.4.Elizabeth Ellen Winwood, d.5 Jan 1955; m.27 Oct 1892 Edward Vincent Vashon Wheeler (d.21 May 1933)

1.2.Edward (28 Oct 1826-    )

1.3.Mary Sidney, d.1885; m.27 Aug 1846 Rev. Samuel John Heathcote (8 Aug 1823-20 Apr 1906)

1.4.Elizabeth, d.11 Jan 1900; m.23 Sep 1853 Charles Gabriel Shaw

1.5.dau

2.Cecilia Maria, d.2 Mar 1821; m.2 May 1816 V W Wheeler, of Kyrewood House

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dpth...@gmail.com]

After posting that I located the names of some additional children for this family, so for sake of completeness I post this updated genealogy:

Sir William Smith, of Eardiston, cr Baronet 1809, d.1821; m.10 Oct 1780 Mary Wheeler

1.William (1 Apr 1785-3 May 1812)

2.Sir Christopher Sidney, 2^nd Bt. (14 May 1798-7 Aug 1839); m.1^st 30 Dec 1822 Mary Foley (d.1 Dec 1833); m.2^nd Dec 1837 Mrs Harriette Murphy, née Lee (dsp Apr 1840)

2.1.Sir William, 3^rd Bt. (5 Oct 1823-4 Jan 1893); m.1^st 5 May 1843 Susan (d.30 Apr 1892), dau of Sir William George Parker, 2^nd Bt.; m.2^nd 1892 Helen Agnes Houseman (dsp 4 May 1914)

2.1.1.William Sydney Winwood (11 May 1844-Aug 1845)

2.1.2.Christopher Sydney Winwood (24 Jan 1846-1886 [1887, per Debrett’s]); m.16 May 1870 Anne Mogan; he then married bigamously 10 Aug 1877 Caroline Holland

[issue of C S W Smith’s legal marriage]:

2.1.2.1.Sir William Sidney Winwood, de jure 4^th Bt. (16 Oct 1872-1954); m.1901 Mary Helen Griffiths; it is likely that he never knew that his parents were married and that he was entitled to the Baronetcy; the de jure 5^th and 6^th Baronets likely also did not know that they were entitled to it

2.1.2.1.1.Sidney Richard, de jure 5^th Bt. (1907-1983); m.1941 Alice May Liddy

2.1.2.1.1.1.Margaret Helen (1944-    ); m.1966 Paul St.Clair Morrow (d.1993)

2.1.2.1.2. – 2.1.2.1.6. five daus

2.1.2.2. – 3. two daus

 

[issue of C S W Smith’s bigamous marriage]:

2.1.2.4.William Sydney Winwood (1 Apr 1879-Jul 1953); m.27 Jul 1905 Caroline Harris (d.1938); he has been listed as 4^th Bt. in Burke’s Peerage, at least until quite recently

2.1.2.4.1.Christopher Sydney Winwood (20 Sep 1906-3 Dec 2000); m.1932 Phyllis Berenice O'Grady; he has been listed as 5^th Bt. in Burke’s Peerage, at least until quite recently

2.1.2.4.1.1.Christopher Sydney Winwood (1933-5 Aug 1937)

2.1.2.4.1.2.Robert Christopher Sydney Winwood (1939-    ); m.1971 Roslyn Nellie McKensie

2.1.2.4.1.2.1.Craig Robert Winwood (1974-    )

2.1.2.4.1.2.2.Robyn Louise Winwood (1978-    )

2.1.2.4.1.3.Hugh William Standish Winwood (1942-    ); m.1966 Clare Philomena Stinson à 2 sons, 2 daus

2.1.2.4.1.4.Terence John Winwood (1944-    ); m.1967 Helen June McLeod à 2 sons, 1 dau

2.1.2.4.1.5.Matthew Roy Winwood (1947-    ); m.1975 Janette Lefevre Truman à 1 son

2.1.2.4.1.6.David Anthony Winwood (1949-    ); m.1976 Judith Chaffey à 2 sons

2.1.2.4.1.7.Ronald James Thomas Winwood (1951-    ); m.1976 Rhonda Jean Raine à 2 sons,1 dau

2.1.2.4.1.8.Villette Mary Winwood (1935-    ); m.1961 Roger Hore

2.1.2.4.1.9.Helen Eve Winwood (1936-    ); m.1957 Arthur Sydney Macalpine

2.1.2.4.1.10.Frances Caroline Winwood (1941-    ); m.1973 Kenneth James Hebblewhite

2.1.2.4.2.Rupert William Winwood (4 Sep 1908-    ); m.17 Aug 1940 Nancia Jean Margaret Cave à 2 sons, 1 dau

2.1.2.5.Maud Agnes Winwood

2.1.2.6.Dorothy Winwood

 

2.1.3.William George Winwood (10 Jul 1847-30 Jun 1890)

2.1.4.Charles Edward Winwood (1 Feb 1853-12 Aug 1897)

2.1.5.William Arthur Winwood (3 Nov 1854-22 May 1928); m.6 Oct 1886 Harriet Cowland (d.5 Nov 1942)

2.1.5.1.Christopher William Winwood (28 Mar 1893-6 Apr 1969); m.1916 Alice Muriel Garside (d.20 Apr 1969)

2.1.5.1.1.Antony Winwood (1920-1993); he was de jure 6^th Bt. from 1983 until 1993

2.1.5.1.2.Pauline Muriel Winwood (1918-    ); m.1^st 1949 James Mayhew; m.2^nd 1977 Richard Tudor Archer

2.1.5.2.Constance Evelyn Winwood; m.6 Jun 1921 Leonard Tolcher Tracey

2.1.5.3.Gladys Pauline Winwood, d.2 Dec 1947

2.1.6.Frederick William Winwood (1856-1857)

2.1.7.Mary Agnes Winwood, d.19 Oct 1932; m.1^st 20 Apr 1881 Rev. Sir Thomas Collingwood Hughes, 8^th Bt. (12 Aug 1800-22 May 1889); m.2^nd Nov 1890 Robert Halliday Gunning (d.22 Mar 1900)

2.1.8.Elizabeth Ellen Winwood, d.5 Jan 1955; m.27 Oct 1892 Edward Vincent Vashon Wheeler (d.21 May 1933)

2.2.Edward (28 Oct 1826-    )

2.3.Mary Sidney (7 Feb 1825-1885); m.27 Aug 1846 Rev. Samuel John Heathcote (8 Aug 1823-20 Apr 1906)

2.4.Elizabeth, d.11 Jan 1900; m.23 Sep 1853 Charles Gabriel Shaw

2.5.Ellen, d.10 Oct 1918

3.Cecilia Maria (4 Jul 1795-2 Mar 1821); m.2 May 1816 Vincent Wood Wheeler, of Kyrewood House (1 Jun 1786-9 Jun 1853)

[colinp]

According to Debrett's 2015/2019:-

Margaret Helen dau of de jure 5th Bt and Paul Morrow had issue Anthony (1969-2006), Helayne b 1967, Jacinta b 1973 and Angela b 1979

One of the daus of the de jure 4th Bt is Winifred Mary b 1919 m 1942 John Llewellyn (of NSW Aus) and had issue Marcia b 1947 m 1973 Milan Herceg and had issue Nicholas Alexander b - and Stephanie Jane b -  BA (NSW)

[dpth...@gmail.com]

Thanks! I take it that these most recent editions agree with the 2011 edition that the title became extinct in 1993?

[colinp]

The long (four paragraph) note which appeared in the 2015 edition of Debrett's  - presumably this is the same note that appeared in the 2011 edition (I don't have this) - is omitted in the 2019 edition which simply states in the heading "Dormant or extinct 1993" but maybe that's because the position is explained in the previous edition.  The Official Roll lists the baronetcy as Dormant

On Monday, 20 January 2020 15:50:58 UTC, dpth...@gmail.com wrote:

[dpth...@gmail.com]

Thanks again, and sorry for so many questions, but does the Official Roll list it as dormant since 1993? or since 2000?

The 2018 posting I mentioned says it was dormant since 2000, implying that it belonged to the branch now believed to be bigamous; on the other hand, Debrett's, as you point out, uses 1993 as the "dormant or extinct" date, supporting the title going to the de jure Baronets.

Thanks!

[colinp]

The Official Roll only lists the fact that a baronetcy is dormant or extinct - it doesn't give a "date from".  However there is a document "Unclaimed 31Dec17" under the "No Succession proved" tab which states that the baronetcy has been dormant since the death of the 5th Baronet in 2000 but I don't think that is an official document

On Monday, 20 January 2020 15:50:58 UTC, dpth...@gmail.com wrote: