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marquess

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Dec 17, 2018, 2:45:35 AM12/17/18
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Does anyone have any up to date information on the male collaterals in remainder to the barony? There are 6 individuals in remainder born between 1940 and 67, Debretts 2011 states that at least two of them are married, but I see no issue, is this one of those cases where there are copious heirs that we don't know of?

Henry W

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Dec 17, 2018, 2:29:59 PM12/17/18
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Do you have any more details of these marriages - none of the 6 cousins of the current Baron appear married on on thepeerage: http://www.thepeerage.com/p58715.htm#i587148

Has anybody done a births check for Lindsay and the relevant maiden name?

marquess

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Dec 17, 2018, 6:40:26 PM12/17/18
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Alexander b 63,  married  93 M.Angeles da of Miguel Perez of Valliadolid, Spain. As per Debretts 2011.

bx...@yahoo.com

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Dec 18, 2018, 6:50:50 PM12/18/18
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Nothing further in Debrett's 2015.  

Maybe the 2019 edition will show something different.

Brooke

Henry W

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Feb 10, 2019, 8:40:33 AM2/10/19
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Can anybody with access check DB 2019 and see if there has been an update?

colinp

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Feb 10, 2019, 3:58:19 PM2/10/19
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there have been no further marriages or issue listed in Debretts 2019


On Monday, 17 December 2018 07:45:35 UTC, marquess wrote:

Henry W

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May 31, 2019, 10:01:29 AM5/31/19
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Did some of my own sleuthing on this today:

Stuart Martin Lindsay, born 1951, 3rd son of Hon Thomas Martin LINDSAY (1915-95) appears to be faculty at Arizona State University. His CV from the ASU website lists the same DoB as thepeerage.com, and states he is married with 3 children. 

Further investigation tenatively suggests: married to Christine M (born c. 1950)
[there is a marriage for Stuart M LINDSAY to a Christine M GUNSTONE, 1971 Q3, Dartford, Kent, UK.  Following this further, there are two possible Christine M GUNSTONEs, both born 1949 Q4, Paddington or Kidderminster]

Three possible dau: 
Sarah L (born c. 1978) - there is a Sarah Louise LINDSAY (born 1977 Q3, Stockport, mothers maiden name GUNSTONE) - this fits Stuart's academic bio, which has him at Manchester 1969-1977
He moves to the US in 1979, and becomes a US citizen in December 1984 according to his CV.
Anna E (born c. 1981) - probably m to Abel CORDOVA, and with him has a son Beau?
Ruth A (born c. 1983)

Henry W

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May 31, 2019, 11:12:13 AM5/31/19
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More sleuthing:

Alexander Sebastian LINDSAY (b 1940), heir presumptive, is listed on thepeerage.com as resident in Carshalton in 2003 (source Debrett's 2003).

Electoral Roll lookups on 192.com indicate he lived with a Deidre A LINDSAY 2002-2007 in Carshalton, then 2007-present in Sutton.
Ancestry Electoral Roll lookups have him living with a Deidre A LINDSAY in 1966-68 also, so this is very likely to be his wife.

Marriage lookup gives a 1962 Q3 marriage to a Deidre A DICKSON in 1962 Oxford.
Three possible children soon after:
Simon A LINDSAY, born 1963 Q2, Wandsworth
Emma S S LINDSAY, born 1965 Q1, Surrey Mid Eastern
Thomas Peter LINDSAY, born 1967 Q3, Sutton

There are other LINDSAY/DICKSON children born later, but there is also another LINDSAY/DICKSON marriage in 1967 Q1. Difficult to be sure of where these belong.

This does give us 2 more heirs (if true), but actually no younger than the youngest brother of Alexander who was also born 1967.

colinp

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May 31, 2019, 5:42:32 PM5/31/19
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Debrett's states marriage of Alexander Sebastian in 1962 to Deidre Ann dau of Leonard William Dickson of Glasgow.  Also marriage of elder son Simon Alexander b 1963 in 1993 to M Angeles dau of Miguel Perez of Valladolid, Spain


On Monday, 17 December 2018 07:45:35 UTC, marquess wrote:

Henry W

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May 31, 2019, 5:51:10 PM5/31/19
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Does Debrett's confirm any other children of Alexander Sebastian?

colinp

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May 31, 2019, 6:00:04 PM5/31/19
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Yes, just the two you have found - Emma Susan b 1965 m 1993 David Kelly and Thomas Peter b 1967


On Monday, 17 December 2018 07:45:35 UTC, marquess wrote:

Henry W

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May 31, 2019, 6:01:23 PM5/31/19
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At least I made progress out West!

colinp

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May 31, 2019, 6:01:44 PM5/31/19
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your sleuthing on Stuart Martin Lindsay would however be new to Debrett's.


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