More-Molyneux/Lintott engagement
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Michael Rhodes
May 15, 2009, 8:44:08 AM5/15/09
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_.The engagement was announced 9 May, 2009, between Alexander G. More-
Molyneux, scion of that LG family, eldest son of Mr and Mrs Michael
More-Molyneux, of Loseley Park, Guildford, and Sophia L.H. Lintott,
eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs Guy Lintott, of Shroton, Dorset.
http://www.statelyhomes.com/areas/details.asp?HID=651&ID=1029&path=12,21,78,1029
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.gossip.royalty/browse_thread/thread/b51595f9d448088f/e66fabba678f9098?hl=en&q=more-molyneux
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Molyneux, scion of that LG family, eldest son of Mr and Mrs Michael
More-Molyneux, of Loseley Park, Guildford, and Sophia L.H. Lintott,
eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs Guy Lintott, of Shroton, Dorset.
http://www.statelyhomes.com/areas/details.asp?HID=651&ID=1029&path=12,21,78,1029
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.gossip.royalty/browse_thread/thread/b51595f9d448088f/e66fabba678f9098?hl=en&q=more-molyneux
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Shinjinee
May 15, 2009, 8:57:28 PM5/15/09
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Eldest surviving son then, since his brother Christopher (circa 1985 -
Aug 1997) was killed in a freak bike accident. Anything else known
about the family, apart from their descent from Sir William More,
kinsman of Sir Thomas More, who built the original house with stone
from Waverley Abbey?
His parents are Michael and Sarah More-Molyneux.
Shinjinee
On May 15, 5:44 pm, Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.gossip.royalty/browse_thread/thr...
More information on the family at www.stirnet.com (subscription site)
from which I gleaned the following
Thomas Moore of Norton, Derbyshire
John Moore
Sir Christopher More, 1st of Loseley, Sheriff of Surrey and
Sussex
Sir William More of Loseley (1520-1600)
Sir George More of Loseley, Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex
(1553-1632)
Sir Robert More (1581-1626, dvp)
Sir Poynings More, 1st Bart of
Loseley (d 1649)
Sir William More, 2nd Bart of
Loseley, Sheriff of Surrey
(1643-1684)
Nicholas More (d 22.12.1684,
rector of Feeham)
Robert More of Loseley
(dsp 1689), why not Bt?
Elizabeth More of
Loseley (d unm 1692)
Margaret More of Loseley
(d 1704)
m. Sir Thomas Molyneux
Margaret More of Loseley (d 1704)
m. Sir Thomas Molyneux
Sir More Molyneux of Loseley
Sir Thomas More Molyneux of Loseley (b 1724, d unm 1776)
The Official Guide to Loseley Park shows him as
son of Sir Thomas.
However, since Sir Thomas didn't marry,
James was presumably
illegitimately
James More-Molyneux of Loseley Park (b
1760, d 1823)
had issue
Cassandra Molyneux of Loseley (1725-1777, dunm)
Jane Molyneux of Loseley (1729-1802, dunm), succ by
her illeg nephew
The family is in Burke's Landed Gentry 1952.
So, via one heiress, and one illegitimacy, the family is descended
from a kinsman of Sir Thomas. (This compared to other families
similarly descended, looks almost frugal.. the Barons Bolton are
descended via two heiresses, both illegitimate, from the original
Scropes of Bolton).
Shinjinee
Aug 1997) was killed in a freak bike accident. Anything else known
about the family, apart from their descent from Sir William More,
kinsman of Sir Thomas More, who built the original house with stone
from Waverley Abbey?
His parents are Michael and Sarah More-Molyneux.
Shinjinee
On May 15, 5:44 pm, Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> _.The engagement was announced 9 May, 2009, between Alexander G. More-
> Molyneux, scion of that LG family, eldest son of Mr and Mrs Michael
> More-Molyneux, of Loseley Park, Guildford, and Sophia L.H. Lintott,
> eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs Guy Lintott, of Shroton, Dorset.
>
> http://www.statelyhomes.com/areas/details.asp?HID=651&ID=1029&path=12...
> Molyneux, scion of that LG family, eldest son of Mr and Mrs Michael
> More-Molyneux, of Loseley Park, Guildford, and Sophia L.H. Lintott,
> eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs Guy Lintott, of Shroton, Dorset.
>
>
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.gossip.royalty/browse_thread/thr...
More information on the family at www.stirnet.com (subscription site)
from which I gleaned the following
Thomas Moore of Norton, Derbyshire
John Moore
Sir Christopher More, 1st of Loseley, Sheriff of Surrey and
Sussex
Sir William More of Loseley (1520-1600)
Sir George More of Loseley, Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex
(1553-1632)
Sir Robert More (1581-1626, dvp)
Sir Poynings More, 1st Bart of
Loseley (d 1649)
Sir William More, 2nd Bart of
Loseley, Sheriff of Surrey
(1643-1684)
Nicholas More (d 22.12.1684,
rector of Feeham)
Robert More of Loseley
(dsp 1689), why not Bt?
Elizabeth More of
Loseley (d unm 1692)
Margaret More of Loseley
(d 1704)
m. Sir Thomas Molyneux
Margaret More of Loseley (d 1704)
m. Sir Thomas Molyneux
Sir More Molyneux of Loseley
Sir Thomas More Molyneux of Loseley (b 1724, d unm 1776)
The Official Guide to Loseley Park shows him as
son of Sir Thomas.
However, since Sir Thomas didn't marry,
James was presumably
illegitimately
James More-Molyneux of Loseley Park (b
1760, d 1823)
had issue
Cassandra Molyneux of Loseley (1725-1777, dunm)
Jane Molyneux of Loseley (1729-1802, dunm), succ by
her illeg nephew
The family is in Burke's Landed Gentry 1952.
So, via one heiress, and one illegitimacy, the family is descended
from a kinsman of Sir Thomas. (This compared to other families
similarly descended, looks almost frugal.. the Barons Bolton are
descended via two heiresses, both illegitimate, from the original
Scropes of Bolton).
Shinjinee
Shinjinee
May 15, 2009, 9:25:02 PM5/15/09
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More on Loseley Park
http://www.touruk.co.uk/houses/houses-surrey-Loseley-Park.htm
"Loseley Park is a fine example of Elizabethan architecture. The
property has been the home of the More and More-Molyneux families for
almost 500 years.
Sir Christopher More, who came from Derbyshire, was an official in the
Exchequer under Henry VII. He made his fortune at Court and in 1508
purchased the manor of Loseley.
His son, Sir William More, who inherited in 1549, was an adviser to
Queen Elizabeth I and held many important offices.
Sir William built the present house between 1562 and 1568 using mellow
stone brought from the ruined Cistercian abbey of Waverley. Queen
Elizabeth stayed at the house on four occasions.
His son, Sir George More, inherited in 1600 and became a member of
parliament, Lieutenant of the Tower of London and Treasurer to Henry,
Prince of Wales.
Sir George added a new wing to the house which contained a chapel, a
picture gallery and a riding school but this wing was demolished in
the 1820s.
In 1689 the male line of the More family died out and Loseley Park
passed to Sir George More's great-granddaughter Margaret More and her
husband Sir Thomas Molyneux.
Thereafter, the family became known as More-Molyneux and today Loseley
Park is still owned and run by the same family."
I forgot to mention that the More family held a baronetcy in the
1600s.
Notable members of the family include
Brigadier-General G H More-Molyneux CB DSO, active in Aden in the
1800s
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/home/article-10262977-details/Friends+of+the+family/article.do
If Loseley Park feels loved and lived-in, according to More-Molyneux
that is down to the enterprise of his grandfather and father, who
restored the house after the war. "A lot of his friends urged
grandfather to move out and go somewhere smaller on the estate, and if
he had done that, Loseley would have fallen apart.
......
James and Susan, More-Molyneux's parents, now in their eighties, still
live in one wing of the house, while Michael and his wife, Sarah, live
in another with their three children, Alexander, 21, Katrina, 20, and
Tristram, 17, (another son, Christopher, died at 12 and is
commemorated by a children's hospice in the grounds).
Michael and Sarah took over Loseley six years ago, and are confident
their sons and daughter will carry on the tradition. "All three
children have Loseley in their blood," Michael says. The family's
emblem is a mulberry tree, which is represented in both the Drawing
Room ceiling and the Great Hall mantelpiece, and grows, for real, near
Loseley's moat. Legend has it that when the mulberry dies the family
dies too. "At the beginning of the second world war the tree fell
over, " says More-Molyneux, "and everybody thought, that's it. And
it's still growing to this day. But," he adds with a smile, "we've
planted a few more."
Since Alexander was 21 in 2004, he was then the eldest son (b ca 1983)
contrary to the news reports at the time of his brother's death (ca
1985-1997) aged 12.
See also
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/manor%20houses/loseley_park.htm
And here, for a genealogy which shows that the property passed through
a second heiress who married thirdly a Brig.Gen. Francis Cecil
Langbourne, C.M.G., D.S.O., + 1963. Their son was James More-Molyneux
(father of the present owner) and their grandson the present owner.
So More-Molyneuxs only via two heiresses and one illegitimacy.
http://www.william1.co.uk/w144.htm
D2. Caroline Isabella Lowndes, + 1888, Md. 1832, James More-Molyneux,
of Loseley Park, Surrey, * 1805, + 1874.
E1. Christopher More-Molyneux, + 1874, Issue.
E2. William More-Molyneux, of Loseley Park, Surrey, * 1835, + 1907.
E3. Robert Henry More-Molyneux, Adm. Sir, K.C.B., * 1838, + 1904, Md.
1874, Annie Mary Carew Forster, + 1898, d. of Capt. M. C. Forster,
R.N., of Lansdown Place, Brighton, Sussex.
F1. Gwendoline Carew More-Molyneux, of Loseley Park, Surrey, + 1946,
Md.1) 1907 (div. 1918), Cmdr. John Wallis McCowen, R.N., + 1949, s. of
Insp.-Gen. John Wallis McCowen, of Newfoundland, Canada.
G1. Christobel Ruby McCowen, + 1995, Md.1) 1941 (div. 1951), Lanfear
Barbey Norrie, of New York City, U.S.A., s. of Lanfear Norrie.
H1. Christopher Lorrilard Norrie, of Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A., *
1946, Md. 1970, Constance Peck, d. of Judge Bernard S. Peck, of
Westport, Con., U.S.A.
Md.2) 1951, Hon. (Willaim) Neville Berry, of Monaco, * 1914, + 1998,
s. of James Gomer Berry, 1st Viscount Kemsley (1945).
Md.2) 1919, Brig.Gen. Francis Cecil Langbourne, C.M.G., D.S.O., +
1963, s. of Charles Ranken Vickerman Longbourne, of Ripsley, near
Liphook, Hampshire.
G2. James Robert More-Molyneux, Maj., of Loseley Park, Surrey, * 1920,
Md. 1948, Susan Bellinger, d. of Frederick Charles Bellinger. [the
former owner]
H1. Michael George More-Molyneux, * 1951. [the present owner]
[other details omitted]
>
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.gossip.royalty/browse_thread/thr...
>
> -==-
http://www.touruk.co.uk/houses/houses-surrey-Loseley-Park.htm
"Loseley Park is a fine example of Elizabethan architecture. The
property has been the home of the More and More-Molyneux families for
almost 500 years.
Sir Christopher More, who came from Derbyshire, was an official in the
Exchequer under Henry VII. He made his fortune at Court and in 1508
purchased the manor of Loseley.
His son, Sir William More, who inherited in 1549, was an adviser to
Queen Elizabeth I and held many important offices.
Sir William built the present house between 1562 and 1568 using mellow
stone brought from the ruined Cistercian abbey of Waverley. Queen
Elizabeth stayed at the house on four occasions.
His son, Sir George More, inherited in 1600 and became a member of
parliament, Lieutenant of the Tower of London and Treasurer to Henry,
Prince of Wales.
Sir George added a new wing to the house which contained a chapel, a
picture gallery and a riding school but this wing was demolished in
the 1820s.
In 1689 the male line of the More family died out and Loseley Park
passed to Sir George More's great-granddaughter Margaret More and her
husband Sir Thomas Molyneux.
Thereafter, the family became known as More-Molyneux and today Loseley
Park is still owned and run by the same family."
I forgot to mention that the More family held a baronetcy in the
1600s.
Notable members of the family include
Brigadier-General G H More-Molyneux CB DSO, active in Aden in the
1800s
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/home/article-10262977-details/Friends+of+the+family/article.do
If Loseley Park feels loved and lived-in, according to More-Molyneux
that is down to the enterprise of his grandfather and father, who
restored the house after the war. "A lot of his friends urged
grandfather to move out and go somewhere smaller on the estate, and if
he had done that, Loseley would have fallen apart.
......
James and Susan, More-Molyneux's parents, now in their eighties, still
live in one wing of the house, while Michael and his wife, Sarah, live
in another with their three children, Alexander, 21, Katrina, 20, and
Tristram, 17, (another son, Christopher, died at 12 and is
commemorated by a children's hospice in the grounds).
Michael and Sarah took over Loseley six years ago, and are confident
their sons and daughter will carry on the tradition. "All three
children have Loseley in their blood," Michael says. The family's
emblem is a mulberry tree, which is represented in both the Drawing
Room ceiling and the Great Hall mantelpiece, and grows, for real, near
Loseley's moat. Legend has it that when the mulberry dies the family
dies too. "At the beginning of the second world war the tree fell
over, " says More-Molyneux, "and everybody thought, that's it. And
it's still growing to this day. But," he adds with a smile, "we've
planted a few more."
Since Alexander was 21 in 2004, he was then the eldest son (b ca 1983)
contrary to the news reports at the time of his brother's death (ca
1985-1997) aged 12.
See also
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/manor%20houses/loseley_park.htm
And here, for a genealogy which shows that the property passed through
a second heiress who married thirdly a Brig.Gen. Francis Cecil
Langbourne, C.M.G., D.S.O., + 1963. Their son was James More-Molyneux
(father of the present owner) and their grandson the present owner.
So More-Molyneuxs only via two heiresses and one illegitimacy.
http://www.william1.co.uk/w144.htm
D2. Caroline Isabella Lowndes, + 1888, Md. 1832, James More-Molyneux,
of Loseley Park, Surrey, * 1805, + 1874.
E1. Christopher More-Molyneux, + 1874, Issue.
E2. William More-Molyneux, of Loseley Park, Surrey, * 1835, + 1907.
E3. Robert Henry More-Molyneux, Adm. Sir, K.C.B., * 1838, + 1904, Md.
1874, Annie Mary Carew Forster, + 1898, d. of Capt. M. C. Forster,
R.N., of Lansdown Place, Brighton, Sussex.
F1. Gwendoline Carew More-Molyneux, of Loseley Park, Surrey, + 1946,
Md.1) 1907 (div. 1918), Cmdr. John Wallis McCowen, R.N., + 1949, s. of
Insp.-Gen. John Wallis McCowen, of Newfoundland, Canada.
G1. Christobel Ruby McCowen, + 1995, Md.1) 1941 (div. 1951), Lanfear
Barbey Norrie, of New York City, U.S.A., s. of Lanfear Norrie.
H1. Christopher Lorrilard Norrie, of Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A., *
1946, Md. 1970, Constance Peck, d. of Judge Bernard S. Peck, of
Westport, Con., U.S.A.
Md.2) 1951, Hon. (Willaim) Neville Berry, of Monaco, * 1914, + 1998,
s. of James Gomer Berry, 1st Viscount Kemsley (1945).
Md.2) 1919, Brig.Gen. Francis Cecil Langbourne, C.M.G., D.S.O., +
1963, s. of Charles Ranken Vickerman Longbourne, of Ripsley, near
Liphook, Hampshire.
G2. James Robert More-Molyneux, Maj., of Loseley Park, Surrey, * 1920,
Md. 1948, Susan Bellinger, d. of Frederick Charles Bellinger. [the
former owner]
H1. Michael George More-Molyneux, * 1951. [the present owner]
[other details omitted]
> _.The engagement was announced 9 May, 2009, between Alexander G. More-
> Molyneux, scion of that LG family, eldest son of Mr and Mrs Michael
> More-Molyneux, of Loseley Park, Guildford, and Sophia L.H. Lintott,
> eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs Guy Lintott, of Shroton, Dorset.
>
> http://www.statelyhomes.com/areas/details.asp?HID=651&ID=1029&path=12...
> Molyneux, scion of that LG family, eldest son of Mr and Mrs Michael
> More-Molyneux, of Loseley Park, Guildford, and Sophia L.H. Lintott,
> eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs Guy Lintott, of Shroton, Dorset.
>
>
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.gossip.royalty/browse_thread/thr...
>
> -==-
Richard R
May 16, 2009, 5:21:51 AM5/16/09
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Sophia Lucy Harriet Lintott was born 20 (Times 28) January 1982 to Guy
and Lucy Lintott (nee DUPREE. Not, so far as I can ascertain, a member
of the Dupree Bts family.)
Michael George More-Molyneux m 1980 Sarah dau of Christopher
Westmacott (d 1998) and the birth years of their children are
1. Alexander b 1982
2. Christopher b 1985 d 1997
3. Tristram b 1986
1. Katrina b 1983
On May 16, 2:25 am, Shinjinee <SSenpub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> More on Loseley Parkhttp://www.touruk.co.uk/houses/houses-surrey-Loseley-Park.htm
> http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/home/article-10262977-details/Friends+o...
> > -==-- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
and Lucy Lintott (nee DUPREE. Not, so far as I can ascertain, a member
of the Dupree Bts family.)
Michael George More-Molyneux m 1980 Sarah dau of Christopher
Westmacott (d 1998) and the birth years of their children are
1. Alexander b 1982
2. Christopher b 1985 d 1997
3. Tristram b 1986
1. Katrina b 1983
On May 16, 2:25 am, Shinjinee <SSenpub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> More on Loseley Parkhttp://www.touruk.co.uk/houses/houses-surrey-Loseley-Park.htm
> If Loseley Park feels loved and lived-in, according to More-Molyneux
> that is down to the enterprise of his grandfather and father, who
> restored the house after the war. "A lot of his friends urged
> grandfather to move out and go somewhere smaller on the estate, and if
> he had done that, Loseley would have fallen apart.
> ......
>
> James and Susan, More-Molyneux's parents, now in their eighties, still
> live in one wing of the house, while Michael and his wife, Sarah, live
> in another with their three children, Alexander, 21, Katrina, 20, and
> Tristram, 17, (another son, Christopher, died at 12 and is
> commemorated by a children's hospice in the grounds).
>
> Michael and Sarah took over Loseley six years ago, and are confident
> their sons and daughter will carry on the tradition. "All three
> children have Loseley in their blood," Michael says. The family's
> emblem is a mulberry tree, which is represented in both the Drawing
> Room ceiling and the Great Hall mantelpiece, and grows, for real, near
> Loseley's moat. Legend has it that when the mulberry dies the family
> dies too. "At the beginning of the second world war the tree fell
> over, " says More-Molyneux, "and everybody thought, that's it. And
> it's still growing to this day. But," he adds with a smile, "we've
> planted a few more."
>
> Since Alexander was 21 in 2004, he was then the eldest son (b ca 1983)
> contrary to the news reports at the time of his brother's death (ca
> 1985-1997) aged 12.
>
> See alsohttp://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/manor%20houses/loseley_park.htm
> that is down to the enterprise of his grandfather and father, who
> restored the house after the war. "A lot of his friends urged
> grandfather to move out and go somewhere smaller on the estate, and if
> he had done that, Loseley would have fallen apart.
> ......
>
> James and Susan, More-Molyneux's parents, now in their eighties, still
> live in one wing of the house, while Michael and his wife, Sarah, live
> in another with their three children, Alexander, 21, Katrina, 20, and
> Tristram, 17, (another son, Christopher, died at 12 and is
> commemorated by a children's hospice in the grounds).
>
> Michael and Sarah took over Loseley six years ago, and are confident
> their sons and daughter will carry on the tradition. "All three
> children have Loseley in their blood," Michael says. The family's
> emblem is a mulberry tree, which is represented in both the Drawing
> Room ceiling and the Great Hall mantelpiece, and grows, for real, near
> Loseley's moat. Legend has it that when the mulberry dies the family
> dies too. "At the beginning of the second world war the tree fell
> over, " says More-Molyneux, "and everybody thought, that's it. And
> it's still growing to this day. But," he adds with a smile, "we've
> planted a few more."
>
> Since Alexander was 21 in 2004, he was then the eldest son (b ca 1983)
> contrary to the news reports at the time of his brother's death (ca
> 1985-1997) aged 12.
>
>
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