Erskine Crum/Candy engagement

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Michael Rhodes

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Feb 17, 2009, 2:21:55 PM2/17/09
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The engagement was announced 17 Feb 2009, between Rupert E.C. Erskine
Crum, elder son of Wing Commander and Mrs Simon Erskine Crum, of
Wellingore, Lincoln, and Emma J. Candy, elder daughter of Mr and Mrs
Henry Candy, of Kingstone Warren, Oxfordshire.

What relation to:-

(i) Rosemary Erskine Crum (nee Dawson), who died 11 December, 2003,
was the widow of Lieutenant-General Vernon Forbes Erskine Crum, CIE,
MC (b 11 Dec 1918- d 17 Mar 1971) (yr son of Sir William Erskine Crum,
OBE) and was the daughter of Brigadier-General Sir Douglas Frederick
Rawdon Dawson, GCVO, KCB, KCVO (1854-1933), and granddaughter of
Colonel the Hon T. Vesey Dawson, brother of the 1st Earl of Dartrey,
killed at Inkermann, and the Hon Augusta FitzPatrick, daughter of the
1st Baron Castletown.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Erskine-Crum

Rosemary was mother of Douglas Vernon Erskine Crum, CBE (1994),
sometime Chief Executive, Ascot Racecourse, b 31 May 1949. See:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/horseracing/2348439/Erskine-Crum-to-...


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/horseracing/2289872/Levy-Board-appoi...


and (ii)

Isla Margaret Erskine Crum (d 1987), daughter of Sir Walter Erskine
Crum, OBE, of Fyfield Manor, Abingdon. She married 3 January, 1925,
Sir Charles Andrew Gladstone, 6th Baronet (b 28 Oct 1888; d 28 Apr
1968), of Hawarden Castle, Flintshire.


http://www.thepeerage.com/p27794.htm#i277939


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Michael Rhodes

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Feb 18, 2009, 4:42:05 PM2/18/09
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It wasn't exactly love at a gallop, but four years after they met Emma
Candy, elder daughter of popular trainer Henry Candy, is to marry
divorcee Rupert Erskine Crum, whose business transports race horses
all over the country.

Rupert, whose cousin Douglas Erskine Crum was chief executive of Ascot
Racecourse, and Emma met at the Newmarket horse sales.

'Our eyes didn't exactly meet over a crowded room because at that time
he was married,' says Emma, who works for James Fanshawe in Newmarket.
'But he phoned me about 18 months ago after his divorce and asked me
out.'

Yet their romance has been long-distance because while she is based in
Suffolk, Rupert's firm is in Lambourn, Berks. 'I don't know where we
will live after we marry - we'll work it out later,' she says.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1148263/McAlpine-ex-digs-new-beau.html






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Richard R

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Feb 18, 2009, 5:57:27 PM2/18/09
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The answer is they were Rupert's great uncle and great aunt and were
the younger brother and sister of Rupert's grandfather Walter Donald
Charles Erskine Crum (1911-?). The latter's son (Walter) Simon Erskine
Crum is Rupert's father. Rupert's mother is Gillian dau of Air
Commodore L G Levis of Wellingore, Lincoln and she married Rupert's
father in 1964.
The Times 1971 obit of Lt Gen Vernon Erskine Crum incorrectly states
his father was Sir WILLIAM when, in fact, he was Sir WALTER Erskine
Crum (1874-1923), the same father as Walter Donald Charles & Isla
Margaret, later Lady Gladstone. (Sources for the correct info include
Vernon's Times marriage notice and the Knightage section of the 1923
edition of Debrett's.)
Rupert is Douglas Erskine Crum's 1st cousin once removed.

The bride to be is Emma Juliet (b 1974) the dau of Henry D N B CANDY
(s of Derrick Warren John Candy) and Virginia Marjorie (b 1945) dau of
W/Cdr William James Maitland Longmore, CBE, RAF (d 1988, Maitland Bt &
Braybrooke B ancestry) 2nd son of ACM Sir Arthur Longmore, GCB, DSO (d
1970). W/Cdr Longmore m 1941 the Hon Jean Mary (b 1919) dau of 2nd
Baron Forres (1888-1954) & Jessica (d 1972) dau of William Alfred
Harford, JP, of Petty France, Badminton.


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