New Peerages announced

[Jonathan]

http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/latest-news/2010/11/peerages-honours-and-appointments-2-57256

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Will Sir Michael Lord be known as "Lord Lord"? Just curious...

Brooke

On Nov 19, 6:41 am, Jonathan <jra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/latest-news/2010/11/peerages-honours-...

[Turenne]

On 19 Nov, 20:23, "b...@yahoo.com" <b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Will Sir Michael Lord be known as "Lord Lord"?  Just curious...
>

Actually, he's got a bit of a problem. He went to school in Whalley
Range (a dump), he stood first as MP for Manchester Gorton (a double
dump), he successfully contested Central Suffolk (taken), then
Central Suffolk and North Ipswich (taken and taken).

Why on earth was Julian Fellowes offered a peerage?

Richard L

[Peter FitzGerald]

On Nov 19, 8:23 pm, "b...@yahoo.com" <b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Will Sir Michael Lord be known as "Lord Lord"?  Just curious...

It has generally not been permissible to use a peerage rank as part of
the title of a peerage. Thus Sir Frederick Marquis had to become Lord
Woolton, not Lord Marquis, and Sir Henry Duke had to become Lord
Merrivale, not Lord Duke.

(There is a life peer Lord Laird, but that's not a peerage rank. And
of course the Earl of Lovelace is also Lord King. Perhaps the most
exalted were the (extinct) Earls of Downe, who also held the title
Lord Pope.)

[Jonathan]

> > Will Sir Michael Lord be known as "Lord Lord"?  Just curious...
>
> Actually, he's got a bit of a problem. He went to school in Whalley
> Range (a dump), he stood first as MP for Manchester Gorton (a double
> dump), he successfully contested  Central Suffolk (taken), then
> Central Suffolk and North Ipswich (taken and taken).

Would he even be allowed Lord Lord of Somewhere? Probably not. So at
least there will be one interesting (non-surname) title in the new
batch.

>
> Why on earth was Julian Fellowes offered a peerage?

Perhaps it was as compensation for failing to get them to make his
wife the heir to Earl Kitchener. In fact, I wonder if he might try to
include Kitchener in his title.

[Turenne]

On 19 Nov, 22:43, Jonathan <jra...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Would he even be allowed Lord Lord of Somewhere? Probably not. So at
> least there will be one interesting (non-surname) title in the new
> batch.

On 19 Nov, 22:43, Jonathan <jra...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Would he even be allowed Lord Lord of Somewhere? Probably not. So at
> least there will be one interesting (non-surname) title in the new
> batch.
>

It makes one think of the Lord Chief Justice and President of the
Courts of England and Wales - Judge Judge...

> > Why on earth was Julian Fellowes offered a peerage?
>
> Perhaps it was as compensation for failing to get them to make his
> wife the heir to Earl Kitchener. In fact, I wonder if he might try to
> include Kitchener in his title.

He's already added the 'Kitchener' barrel to his name, so I wouldn't
be surprised if you are right.

I'm delighted that Oona King is to receive a peerage. She was
disgracefully treated by George Galloway.

RL

[ThomasFoolery]

Can •Sir Michael Bishop CBE be "Lord Bishop"?

[Peter FitzGerald]

On Nov 20, 2:32 am, ThomasFoolery <mmp...@eden.rutgers.edu> wrote:
> Can •Sir Michael Bishop CBE be "Lord Bishop"?

I doubt it. As far as I'm aware the only previous instance of this
surname in a peer is the late Edward Bishop, who was created a life
peer as Lord Bishopston.

[Pat]

Fellowes` peerage is probably a reward for his support for the
Conservative party - he used to help write speecehs for Iain Duncan-
Smith.

On Nov 20, 8:18 am, Peter FitzGerald <peter.fitzger...@live.com>
wrote:

[sarac...@googlemail.com]

Julian Fellowes' paternal ancestry can be found as a scion of Fellowes-
Gordon formerly of Knockespoch in BLG(The Kingdom of Scotland).

[Richard R]

Julian Kitchener-Fellowes' antecedents and connections have been
mentioned above. Here are a few more of the recipients of the latest
batch of peerages who have associations with the families in which we
take an interest. Like Fellowes, they will sit on the Conservative
benches in their Lordships' House:

BALCHIN, Sir Robert (Bob) George Alexander, DL (b 1942) - He is an
armiger and Burke's list his ancestry back several generations. But
they head the lineage with the note: A Sir Roger de Balchen is
mentioned as signing a charter of his feudal overlord Bernard III
Count of Valéry (on the Picardy-Normandy border) at Gamaches, in that
same part of N France, in 1191. He settled in England 1207. Sir John
Balchin (1669–1744) was Adml of the White and Govr of the Naval
Hospital at Greenwich. The unbroken pedigree starts, however, with
[James Balchin b 1706]

GRADE, Michael Ian (b 1943). He is the nephew of two life peers,
(GRADE ext 1998 and DELFONT ext 1994). His 2nd m (1982, div 1991) was
to the Hon Sarah Lawson dau of 5th Baron BUNHAM and gd through her
mother of the 6th Earl of RADNOR.

MAGAN, George Morgan (b 1945). He is head of the Irish gentry family,
son of Brig William Morgan Tilson MAGAN CBE (1908-?) and Maxine (dau
of Sir Kenneth Grant MITCHELL KCIE (1885-1966)).

SPRING, Richard John Grenville (b 1946). He was married (1979 div
1993) to the Hon Jane Elizabeth HENNIKER-MAJOR (b 1954) dau of the 8th
Baron HENNIKER, and has a son and a dau by that marriage.

TRUE, Nicholas Edward CBE (b 1951). He m 1979 Anne-Marie Elena
Kathleen Blanco HOOD (b 1957) gd of Sir Joseph HOOD 1st Bt (cr UK
1922). They have two sons and a dau.

WASSERMAN, Gordon Joshua (b 1938). He m 1964 Cressida Frances (b 1942)
dau of Rt Hon Hugh GAITSKELL CBE MP and Baroness GAITSKELL (LP ext
1989). They have two daus.


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[Nick Kingsley]

And maternally through the Abdys of Albyns, baronets.

Nick Kingsley

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And of course, under GRADE, the 5th Baron Bunham should read BURNHAM!

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