GREY, Rt Hon the 7th Earl (1940-?)

[colinp]

It appears that Philip Kent Grey, 7th Earl Grey and 8th Baronet Grey of Howick has died.  The Official Roll of the Baronetage now shows his son Alexander Edward Grey (formerly Viscount Howick) as being entered as the 9th Baronet Grey of Howick and he is also referred to as the 8th Earl Grey from which I take it he has been entered on the Roll of the Peerage also. I don't think the late Earl proved his claim either to the peerage or the baronetcy

The 7th Earl was resident in Verdille, France according to DPB 2019 but a search in deces-en-France does not reveal his death and I haven't been able to find a death notice from a brief search.

The new 8th Earl m 1995 (div) Ursula C BOULT and had issue a daughter Hon (now Lady) Alice Ursula b 1996

The hp now appears to be Lord Grey's kinsman Christopher John Grey b 1946 descended from the 2nd Earl.  He m 1971 Susan Jane BROOKS and has issue a son Duncan Colin b 1974 (apparently unm) and 2 d

[RichardMH]

There is a Companies House record for a Philip Kent Grey, b. May 1940, at an address in Launceston with an Ann Catherine Grey (same name as the PKG's wife). The CH record gives a resignation date of 9th Nov. 2023 which sometimes means a person has died. Anne C Kent was appointed to the company 20th Jan. 2024.

[colinp]

Thanks - that does sound likely.

Actually the hp is the present Lord Grey's first cousin once removed rather than the more remote "kinsman" I mentioned above

[jksutherl...@gmail.com]

Died on 5th November 2023 as per GRO. Death registered in Plymouth.

[bx...@yahoo.com]

DPB Online hasn't updated this page yet, but a quick look at the first 7 in the line of succession (including the hp, CHRISTOPHER JOHN)  shows only one, Charles David (b. 2017), who is under the age of 42. 

 He currently ranks fifth.

Brooke

[malcolm davies]

A reminder that the family seat of Howick descended to the elder daughter of the  5th Earl,the 5th Earl leaving no sons.The husband of the elder daughter was given a life peerage as Lord Howick of Glendale.

[marquess]

Lord Howick of Glendale is an hereditary barony created in 1960, was there a corresponding life peerage created prior to the hereditary peerage? 

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Lady Mary Cecil Grey (1907-2002), elder daughter of the 5th Earl Grey, married Evelyn Baring (1903-1973), youngest son of the 1st Earl of Cromer.

Baring  was created Baron Howick of Glendale, a hereditary (UK) peerage in 1960.

Upon his death, he was succeeded by his  son, the present (2nd) Baron Howick of Glendale, Charles Evelyn Baring (b. 1937).

Brooke

[marquess]

I must confess that I do dislike when family seats of peers are diverted to female lines when the male line is still extant. At least in the cases of Howick and Knebworth they are in the hands of hereditary peers. Entails are best unless there is no prospective heir or the heir mentally inadequate. 

[BREMENMURRAY]

Earl Grey must have one of the most well known titles worldwide. It seems wherever I travel better class hotels will offer Earl Grey tea 

[Seasonal Monarchist]

To BREMENMURRAY: Either Earl Gray or the Duke of Wellington (Beef Wellington).

[sven_me...@web.de]

You don't seem to have much in common with todays rights.

[marquess]

Peerages are a representation of tradition,  any true affinity  with 'today's rights' would mean that they should no longer exist. There would be no great estates in the UK were it not for the tradition of primogeniture. A contradiction is leaving the estate to one's daughter over the next male heir. As to having anything in common with 'today's rights,' I will leave such commonality to others, European society has been in a lamentable state of  social and moral decline since the passing of the old order in 1918.

Derby is also a very well known term derived from the earldom of the same name. Sandwich would top them all, though very few would think of the 4th earl thereof as they bit into their two pieces of bread.

[dpth...@gmail.com]

Though it is worth noting that what are considered to be traditional family seats, originally came into their respective families in exactly that way... from other families who left them to a female-line relative instead of to the heirs male of the family.
In just such a way the Dukes of Buccleuch inherited the original Montagu seat at Boughton, which went to them instead of to other Montagus, and Drumlanrig, which went to them instead of to the Marquess of Queensberry, the male heir (though Drumlanrig had been a more recent acquisition and was not a traditional Douglas family property.)

[bx...@yahoo.com]

DPB Online has now updated this page.

Viscount Howick, Alexander Edward GREY (b. 1968), has succeeded his father in his peerages, and is now the 8th Earl.  He is married with a daughter.

The line of succession begins with descendants of the Hon George GREY (1809-1891),  5th son of the 2nd Earl.  At the head of the line, as colinp had posted, is CHRISTOPHER JOHN (B. 1946), followed by his son, Duncan Colin (b. 1974).

The rest of the "immediate" line is as follows:

3. David York (b.. 1947), brother of CHRISTOPHER

4. Michael Colin (b. 1982), son of David.

5. Charles David (b. 2017), son of Michael and grandson of David.

6. Simon Alexander (b. 1958), half brother of CHRISTOPHER and David.

7. Marcus Edward (b. 1960), brother of SImon and half brother of CHRISTOPHER and David.

Next in line are  the descendants of the 3rd son of the 1st Earl, the Hon George GREY (1767-1828), created a baronet (UK) 1814):

8. Sir Anthony Dysart GREY, 7th Bt. (b. 1949)

7. Thomas Jasper, son of Sir Anthony and ha to the baronetcy (b. 1998)

There are other descendants after them, from the Rt. Rev. Edward GREY, Bishop of Hereford (1782-1937), 5th son of the 1st Earl.

Brooke

[BREMENMURRAY]

Edward Grey Bishop of Hereford died 24 June 1837 at the very start of Queen Victoria's reign. He was appointed in 1832 while his brother was Prime Minister. Not much nepotism at work there!

[dpth...@gmail.com]

There was nothing uncommon about that in those days. For example, while Lord North was Prime Minister his brother was made a bishop.

[BREMENMURRAY]

Brownlow North was a case of nepotism on steroids. He became Dean of Canterbury at 29,Bishop of Lichfield and Coventry at 30,Bishop of Worcester at 33 and Bishop of Winchester at 39.As Bishop of Winchester he had more stately homes than most of the nobility at the time with an income close to one million pounds a year in todays values.When the Prime Minister was asked if North was not a little young to be a bishop he replied "perhaps but when he is older he will not have a step brother as Prime Minister"

[dpth...@gmail.com]

Brownlow North's prospects were foreseen almost as soon as his half-brother became Prime Minister. On 6 October 1770, shortly after Brownlow was named to be the next Dean of Canterbury, Lord North's cousin George Montagu, who was staying with Lord Guildford at Waldershare, wrote: "I am delighted with my little Dean and the brave prospects he has."

A year later Brownlow was Bp of Lichfield, and then in 1774, Bishop Johnson of Worcester died after falling from his horse, and Brownlow was named his successor even though it turned out the Bishop was not yet quite dead, though he then did die within a day or two.

The King wrote to Lord North: "It is rather extraordinary if the Bishop of Worcester should recover, but at least the accident has shown my desire of doing that which must give you pleasure."

[BREMENMURRAY]

A bit different from today were the appointment of bishops can run into years rather than months, weeks or days! 

[colinp]

Alexander Edward GREY is now entered on the Roll of the Peerage as Earl Grey in the Peerage of the United Kingdom; also as Baron Grey of Howick in the same peerage

[Richard R]

According to DPB online the 8th Earl Grey m 2nd 2019 Mirabelle _