Re: Earl of Munster descendants?
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Could anyone furnish me info/particulars on the descendants of the late Earl of Munster in Debrett's Peerage online database (if they exist thereunder)? I would like to add onto my own genealogy of the family.I currently have the following:William IV, King of the United Kingdom 1830-37 (b 21 Aug 1765; d 20 June 1837), had by his long-time mistress, Dorothea, commonly known as “Mrs Jordan” (b 22 Nov 1761; d 5 July 1816), dau of Francis Bland (b 1736; d 2 Jan 1778), by his mistress, Grace Phillips (b ca 1740; d 1789), the following illegit issue who all bore the surname of FitzClarence after their father,
1. George Augustus, 1st Earl of Munster (see below).
2. Henry Edward; b 8 March 1797 at Richmond, Surrey; went to British India in Jan 1815; dvp unm Sept 1817 from a fever.
3. Lady Sophia; b Aug 1796; granted alongside her siblings (except herself and her sisters the Countess of Erroll and the Viscountess Falkland) the style and precedence of the younger sons and daughter of a Marquess by Royal Warrant dated 24 May 1831; b 4 March 1795; mar 13 Aug 1825, Philip Charles Sidney, 1st Baron De L’Isle and Dudley (see DE L’ISLE, V); d 10 Apr 1837, leaving issue.
4. Lady Mary; b 19 Dec 1798 at Bushy House, Hampton, Middx; mar 19 June 1824 at St George’s Ch, Hanover Sq as his 1st w, Gen Charles Richard Fox MP, Surveyor Gen of the Ordnance 1832-34, 1841, 1846-52 (b 1796/97; dsp 13 Apr 1873), illegit s of Henry Richard Vassall-Fox, 3rd Baron Holland (see ILCHESTER, E); dsp 13 July 1864 (bur at Kensal Green Cemetery, London).
5. Maj-Gen Lord Frederick GCH (1831); b 9 Dec 1779; Lt 12 May 1814; Capt 23 Feb 1820; Maj 10 Jan 1822; Lt-Col 1 Apr 1824; Col 6 May 1831; half-pay 24 Aug 1832; Maj-Gen 1841; Grand Master Mason [S] 1841-43; Lt of the Tower of London 1833-d; mar 19 May 1821 at Kent House, Knightsbridge, Middx, Lady Augusta (b 14 Aug 1801; d 28 July 1876), eldest surv dau by his 1st w of George Boyle, 4th Earl of Glasgow GCH (see GLASGOW, E); d 30 Oct 1854 at Poonah, British India (bur 10 Feb 1855 at Ford, Northumb), leaving issue,
5.1. Augusta Georgiana Frederica; b Dec 1824 at Belfast; betrothed to Theodore Williams, of Tiptoe, Northumb; d unm 18 Oct 1855 at the residence of the Countess of Glasgow on Cumbrae (bur at Etal Chapel).
5.2. William Henry Adolphus; b 16 July and dvp 27 July at the house of his f in Charles, Str, Berkeley Sq, Middx (bur 28 July at St Marylebone’s Ch, Middx).
6. Elizabeth; b 17 Jan 1801; mar 4 Dec 1820, William George Hay, 18th Earl of Erroll KT (see ERROLL, E); d 16 Jan 1856, leaving issue.
7. R-Adm Lord Adolphus GCH, RN (24 Feb 1832); b 18 Feb 1802 at Bushy House, Middx; RN: joined 26 May 1814, Lt 23 Apr 1821, Cdr 17 May 1823, Capt 24 Dec 1824, R-Adm of the Blue 17 Sept 1853, R-Adm of the White 6 June 1855; Groom of the Robes to William IV, 24 July 1830-33; Ld of the Bedchamber to Queen Victoria, 5 Jan 1833-d; Naval ADC to Queen Victoria 1846-53; CO of HM Royal Yacht 1830-53; d unm 17 May 1856 at Newburgh Park, Yorks.
8. Lady Augusta; b 17 Nov 1803 at Bushy House; mar 1stly 5 July 1827 at Hampton, Middx, Hon John Kennedy Erskine, of Dunn, Forfars (b 4 June 1802; d 6 March 1831), 2nd s of Archibald Kennedy, 1st Marquess of Ailsa KT (see AILSA, M); mar 2ndly 24 Aug 1836 at Windsor Castle, Berks, Adm Lord John Frederick Gordon (later Gordon-Hallyburton) GCH, MP, RN (b 15 Aug 1799; dsp29 Sept 1878), 3rd s of George Gordon, 9th Marquess of Huntly (see HUNTLY, M); d 8 Dec 1865, laving issue by her 1st husband.
9. Rev Lord Augustus, rector of Mapledurham, Oxf; b 1 March 1805 at Bushy House; educ at Brasenose Coll Oxf (matric 28 June 1824), Trinity Hall Camb (admit 28 Feb 1826; matric Easter 1826; LLB 2 June 1832; LLD 6 July 1835); joined RN in March 1818; ordained in March 1829; Rector of Mapledurham, Oxf 1829-d; Chaplain to Queen Adelaide; mar 2 Jan 1845, Sarah Elizabeth Catherine (d 23 March 1902 at 53 Hans Rd, Chelsea, Middx), eldest dau of Maj Lord Henry Gordon, ygr bro of Charles Gordon, 10th Marquess of Huntly (see HUNTLY, M); d 14 June 1854 (bur at Mapledurham), leaving issue,
9.1. Dorothea; b 27 Oct 1845 at London; mar 17 March 1863, Capt Thomas William Goff, 7th DG, of Carrowroe, co Roscommon, of Carriglea, co Dublin and of 4 Ovington Gdns, London, MP for Roscommon 1859-60, High Sheriff of co Roscommon 1858-59 (d ca 3 June 1876 at 3 Rupert Str, Haymarket, London), eldest s of Rev Thomas Goff, of Oakport, nr Boyle, co Roscommon; d 15 May 1870 (will pr 9 Sept 1876 and re-sealed 20 Sept 1876 in London for £7,000 in England), leaving issue.
9.2. Eva; b 1 Jan 1847 at twin at Mapledurham; d unm 2 March 1918 (will pr £20,4561).
9.3. Beatrice; 1 Jan 1847 as twin at Mapledurham; d unm 18 March 1909 at 6 Brittany Rd, St Leonards-on-Sea (will pr 22 Apr 1909 for £12,778).
9.4. Augustus; b 13 Feb 1849 at Mapledurham; d 16 Oct 1861 at Dresden, modern-day Germany.
9.5. Henry Edward, of 83 Sloane Str, Chelsea (1891) and of 41 Ovington Sq, Kensington, Middx (1901); b 19 Jan 1853 at Mapledurham; mar 11 June 1879, Mary Isabel Templer (b 1861/61 at Galle, Ceylon; d 17 July 1932 at 41 Ovington Sq; will dated 17 July 1932 and pr 7 Sept 1932 for £2,974); d 19 Feb 1930, leaving issue.
10. Amelia; b 21 March 1807; mar 27 Dec 1830 as his 1st w, Lucius Bentick Cary, 10th Viscount of Falkland GCH (see FALKLAND, V); d 2 July 1858, leaving issue.
The eldest s,
George Augustus Frederick FitzClarence, 1st Earl of Munster also Baron Tewkesbury, in the County of Gloucester and Viscount FitzClarence (so cr 4 June 1831); b 29 June 1794; educ at Dr Moore’s Sch at Sunbury, RMC Marlow; Lt 1809, Maj 1818; Lt-Col 1819; Capt 1825; served during Peninsular War (Battles of Corunna, Fuentes de Oñoro, Toulouse); FRS 1820; ADC to William IV 1830-37; ADC to Queen Victoria 1837-41; DAG of Forces July to Dec 1830; Lt of the Tower of London 1831-32; Constable of Windsor Castle 1833-d; Maj-Gen cmdg W Dist 1841-d; Pres of the Royal Asiatic Soc 1841-d; mar 18 Oct 1819, Mary Wyndham (d 3 Dec 1842), illegit dau of George O’Brien Wyndham, 3rd Earl of Egremont (see LECONFIELD, B), by his mistress, Elizabeth/Eliza Fox (otherwise known as Elizabeth Cole); d 20 March 1842 by committing suicide by a pistol gifted by his f, leaving issue,
1. Lady Adelaide Georgiana, of High Str, Broadwater, Sussex (1871) and of 23 Palmeira Sq, Hove, Sussex (1881); b 28 Oct 1820 at Westminster; d unm 11 Oct 1878 at 23 Palmeira Sq (will dated 10 July 1879 and pr 9 Nov 1883 for £17,315).
2. Lady Augusta Margaret; b 29 July 1822; mar 10 Apr 1844 at the British Embassy, Paris, France as his 1st w, Baron Knut Philip de Bonde, of Eriesberg, Sudermania, Sweden (mar 3rdly 10 Jan 1849 at the British Embassy, Paris, Helena Esther Florence, dau of Sir Richard Robinson, 2nd Bt, of Rokeby Hall, co Louth, who d 1847; d 2 Oct 1871); d 5 Sept 1846 at Stockholm, Sweden, leaving 1 dau.
3. William George, 2nd Earl of Munster (see below).
4. Capt Hon Frederick Charles George DL (Derbys), 10th Hussars, of 2 Petersham Terrace, Queen’s Gate Gdns, Kensington, Middx (1861); b 1 Feb 1826 at St George’s Ch, Hanover Sq; mar 2 Dec 1856 his cousin, Hon Adelaide Augusta Wilhelmina (b 1 June 1826; d 20 Sept 1904), eldest dau of Philip Charles Sidney, 1st Baron de L’Isle and Dudley (see DE L’ISLE, V); dsp 17 Dec 1878 at 43 Queen’s Gate Gdns, Kensington (will pr 1 Feb 1879 for under £30,000).
5. Mary Gertrude; b 31 Oct 1834; dvp an infant.
6. Capt Hon George RN, of 1 Warwick Sq, Westminster (1871); b 15 Apr 1836 at Brighton, Sussex; mar 5 July 1864 at St George’s Chapel, Hanover Sq, Lady Maria Henrietta (b 10 Oct 1841; d 27 July 1912), eldest dau of John Henry Scott, 3rd Earl of Clonmell (see CLONMELL, E); d 24 March 1894 at Moorcroft, Hillingdon, Middx (will dated 10 Dec 1864 and admon granted 10 May 1894 for£ 6,807), leaving with other issue,
6.1. Brig-Gen Charles VC (6 July 1900); b 8 May 1865 in co Kildare; educ at RMA Sandhurst; served during Boer War 1899-1901 and WWI; CO of 29th Brigade 1914; Cdr of 1st Grds Brigade 1914-d; mar 20 Apr 1898 at the Citadel of Cairo, Egypt, Violet (d 22 Dec 1941), paternal granddau of George Spencer-Churchill, 6th Duke of Marlborough (see MARLBOROUGH, D); KIA 12 Nov 1914 at Polygon Wood, Zonnebeke, Belgium during WWI, leaving issue,
6.1.1. Edward Charles, 6th Earl of Munster (see below).
6.1.2. Joan Harriet; b 23 Dec 1901; d unm 6 Jan 1971.
7. Lt Hon Edward, 7th Fusil; b 8 July 1837; d unm 23 July 1855 having suffered from wounds received in action at the Battle of Great Redan during the Crimean War.
The eldest s,
William George FitzClarence, 2nd Earl of Munster DL (Middx); b 19 May 1824; educ at Harrow; Capt with 1st Life Grds 1842-52; mar 17 Apr 1855 his cousin, Wilhelmina (b 27 June 1830; d 9 Oct 1906), paternal granddau of Archibald Kennedy, 1st Marquess of Ailsa KT (see AILSA, M); d 30 Apr 1901, leaving issue,
1. Edward, styled Viscount FitzClarence; b 29 March 1856; dvp 20 Nov 1870.
2. Hon Lionel Frederick Archibald; b 24 July 1857; dvp 1863.
3. Geoffrey George Gordon, 3rd Earl of Munster (see below).
4. Hon Arthur Falkland Manners; b 1860; dvp 1861 an infant.
5. Aubrey, 4th Earl of Munster (see below).
6. Hon William George; b 17 Sept 1864; mar 1887, Elizabeth Aline Williams (d 5 Sept 1902); dsp 4 Oct 1899, leaving issue.
7. T-Maj Hon Harold Edward MC; b 15 Nov 1870; sometime Gov of Manchester Prison; mar 14 May 1902, Frances Isabel Eleanor (d 1 Feb 1951), eldest dau of Lt-Col William Henry Augustus Keppel, of Lexham Hall, Norfolk (see ALBEMARLE, E); d 28 Aug 1926, leaving issue,
7.1. Geoffrey William Richard Hugh, 5th Earl of Munster (see below).
7.2. Lady Wilhelmina Joan Mary; b 17 Nov 1904; granted the style and precedence of the dau of an Earl by Royal Warrant dated 12 Apr 1928; mar 1stly 21 Apr 1928, Col Oliver Birkbeck, eldest s of Edward Lewis Birkbeck (d 13 May 1952); mar 2ndly 28 Apr 1961, Lt-Col Jon Cator MC, only s of John Cator, of Woodbastwick Hall, Kent; d 1992, leaving issue by her 1st husband.
8. Lady Lillian Adelaide Katherine Mary; b 10 Dec 1873; mar 17 Jan 1893, Capt William Arthur Edward Boyd (d 6 Dec 1931), only surv s of Curwen Boyd, of Merton Hall, Wigtowns; d 15 July 1948, leaving issue.
The eldest s,
Geoffrey George Gordon FitzClarence, 3rd Earl of Munster DSO; b 18 July 1859; served during Second Anglo-Afghan War 1879-80 (medal with 3 clasps; fought at Battles of Ahmed Khel and Kandahar); First Boer War 1881, Second Boer War 1899-1902 (Queen’s Medal; King’s Medal; 5 clasps; despatches); Hon Maj with 3rd (Militia) Btn Royal Scots; d unm 2 Feb 1902, when he was suc by his ygr bro,
Aubrey FitzClarence, 4th Earl of Munster; b 7 June 1862; Gent Usher to Queen Victoria 1885-1901; Gent Usher to Edward VII 1901-02; d unm 1 Jan 1928, when he was suc by his nephew,
Geoffrey William Richard Hugh FitzClarence, 5th Earl of Munster KBE (1957), PC (1954); b 17 Feb 1906; educ at Charterhouse; Ld-in-W to George V 1934-38; Paymaster Gen 1938-39; U-SoS: War 1939, Home Dept 1944-45, Colonies 1951-54; Parl Sec for India and Burma 1943-44; Min-w/o-Portfolio 1954-57; Ld-Lt and Custos Rot of Surrey 1957-73; mar 9 July 1928, Hilary, only child of Edward Kenneth Wilson, of Cannizaro Park, Wimbledon, Surrey and of Tranby Croft, Yorks, by Adela Mary, only dau of George Algernon Beyron Disney Hacket, of Moor Hall, Warwicks; dsp 27 Aug 1975, when he was suc by his cousin,
Edward Charles FitzClarence, 6th Earl of Munster; b 3 Oct 1899; educ at Eton, RMA Sandhurst; sometime Capt with Ir Grds; mar 1stly 30 July 1925 (div 1930), Monica Sheila Harrington (mar 2ndly Robert W. Simonds, of Tite Str, London SW; d 5 Oct 1958), 4th dau of Sir Henry Molyneux Grayson, 1st Bt, of Ravenspoint, Anglesey (see GRAYSON of Ravenspoint, Bt); mar 2ndly 28 Sept 1939, Vivian (b ca 1909; d 7 Apr 2008), yst dau of Benjamin Schofield, of Greenroyde, Rochdale, Lancs; d 15 Nov 1983, leaving issue by his 2nd w,
1. Anthony Charles, 7th Earl of Munster (see below).
2. Lady Mary Jill; b 6 Feb 1928; mar 1stly 4 June 1953 (annulled 1960), Melvin Flyer; mar 2ndly 28 March 1968, John Walter (b 31 Oct 1908; d 1980), eldest s of John Walter, of Hove, Sussex; dsp 17 Jan 1971.
The only s,
Anthony Charles FitzClarence, 7th Earl of Munster; b 21 March 1926; educ at St Edward’s Sch in Oxon, priv in Switzerland, Central Sch of Arts and Crafts at London; served during WWII with RN (wounded in action); retired from the RN in 1947; graphic designer from 1950; worked with Daily Mirror 1957-66 and Sun 1966-69; sometime a glass engraver; sometime FSA; mar 1stly 28 July 1949 (div 1966), Louise Margaret Diane, dau of Louis Delvigne, of Liege, Belgium, and had issue,
1. •Lady Tara Francesca [Lady Tara Heffler, 146 Ramsden Rd, London SW12 (2003)]; b 6 Aug 1952; sometime Dir of Sotheby’s; mar 1979, •Ross Jean Heffler, and has issue.
2. •Lady Finola Dominique [Lady Finola Poynton, 1660 Lyon Str, San Francisco, CA, USA (2003)]; b 6 Dec 1953; mar 1981, •Jonathan Terence Poynton, 2nd s of D R. Poynton, of Woodford, Cheshire, and has issue.
(continued) 7th Earl of Munster mar 2ndly 18 June 1966 (div 1979), Pamela Margaret, former w of — Hyde and dau of Arthur Spooner, and had further issue,
3. •Lady Georgina; b 1966.
(continued) 7th Earl of Munster had by his 2nd w prior to their marriage,
4. •Oonagh Sarah (later renamed by her adoptive parents as Charlotte Catherine Lawrence Mills); b 1964; adopted by John and Rowena Lawrence Mills; mar 1987, •Raymond Burt.
(continued) 7th Earl of Munster mar 3rdly 1979 (div), Dorothy Alexa (dsp 13 June 1995), yst dau of Lt-Col Edward Boyd Maxwell OBE, MC; mar 4thly 4 May 1997, •Dr Halina Winska-Wiloch; dspm 30 Dec 2000, when all the peerages became EXTINCT.
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DPB online lists only the daughters of the 7th Earl of Munster as follows:
(By Lord Munster’s 1st w)
Lady Tara DANGERFIELD b 1952 has m twice and from her 1st m has a son b 1985 & a dau b 1982. DPB online says her 1st h Ross HEFFLER d 2015 and she m 2nd 2022 Peter Stuart DANGERFIELD b Oct 1949 (not previously known to this group)
Lady Finola POYNTON b 1953 is m with a son b 1984 and a dau b 1982.
(By Lord Munster’s 2nd w)
(Lady) Charlotte BURT (nee LAWRENCE MILLS) b 1964 is m with a son b 1987 and two daus b 1989 & 1991
Lady Georgiana FITZCLARENCE b 1966 is thrice m and has a son by her 2nd m b 1999. DPB online says she m 3rd 2019 Anthony David MIDDLETON [b Feb 1952] (not previously known to this group). DPB online also says she div her 2nd h Paul PHILLIPS in 2015, whereas the last print edn says div 2013.
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Lineage of FitzClarence: William IV Henry, King of the United Kingdom 1830-37 (b 21 Aug 1765; d 20 June 1837), had by his long-time mistress, Dorothea, commonly known as “Mrs Jordan” (b 22 Nov 1761; d 5 July 1816), dau of Francis Bland (b 1736; d 2 Jan 1778; see Lineage of Bland below), by his mistress, Grace Phillips (b ca 1740; d 1789; see Lineage of Phillips below), while Duke of Clarence the following illegit issue, who all bore the surname of FitzClarence after their f,
1. George Augustus, 1st Earl of Munster (see below).
2. Henry Edward; b 8 March 1797 at Richmond, Surrey; went to British India in Jan 1815; dvp unm Sept 1817 from a fever.
3. Lady Sophia; b Aug 1796; granted alongside her siblings (except herself and her sisters the Countess of Erroll and the Viscountess Falkland) the style and precedence of the younger sons and daughter of a Marquess by Royal Warrant dated 24 May 1831; b 4 March 1795; mar 13 Aug 1825, Philip Charles Sidney, 1st Baron De L’Isle and Dudley GCH (see DE L’ISLE, V); d 10 Apr 1837, leaving issue.
4. Lady Mary; b 19 Dec 1798 at Bushy House, Hampton, Middx; mar 19 June 1824 at St George’s Ch, Hanover Sq as his 1st w, Gen Charles Richard Fox MP, Surveyor Gen of the Ordnance 1832-34, 1841, 1846-52 (b 1796/97; dsp 13 Apr 1873), illegit s of Henry Richard Vassall-Fox, 3rd Baron Holland (see ILCHESTER, E); dsp 13 July 1864 (bur at Kensal Green Cemetery, London).
5. Maj-Gen Lord Frederick GCH (1831); b 9 Dec 1779; Lt 12 May 1814; Capt 23 Feb 1820; Maj 10 Jan 1822; Lt-Col 1 Apr 1824; Equerry to William IV, 16 July 1830-37; Gent of the Horse to William IV, 9 Dec 1830-37; Col 6 May 1831; half-pay 24 Aug 1832; Lt of the Tower of London 1833-d; Maj-Gen 1841; Grand Master Mason [S] 1841-43; mar 19 May 1821 at Kent House, Knightsbridge, Middx, Lady Augusta (b 14 Aug 1801; d 28 July 1876), eldest surv dau by his 1st w of George Boyle, 4th Earl of Glasgow GCH (see GLASGOW, E); d 30 Oct 1854 at Poonah, British India (bur 10 Feb 1855 at Ford, Northumb), leaving issue,
5.1. Augusta Georgiana Frederica; b Dec 1824 at Belfast; betrothed to Theodore Williams, of Tiptoe, Northumb; d unm 18 Oct 1855 at the residence of the Countess of Glasgow on Cumbrae (bur at Etal Chapel).
5.2. William Henry Adolphus; b 16 July and dvp 27 July at the house of his f in Charles, Str, Berkeley Sq, Middx (bur 28 July at St Marylebone’s Ch, Middx).
6. Lady Elizabeth; b 17 Jan 1801; mar 4 Dec 1820, William George Hay, 18th Earl of Erroll KT (see ERROLL, E); d 16 Jan 1856, leaving issue.
7. R-Adm Lord Adolphus GCH, RN (24 Feb 1832); b 18 Feb 1802 at Bushy House, Middx; RN: joined 26 May 1814, Lt 23 Apr 1821, Cdr 17 May 1823, Capt 24 Dec 1824, R-Adm of the Blue 17 Sept 1853, R-Adm of the White 6 June 1855; Groom of the Robes to William IV, 24 July 1830-33; Ld of the Bed Chamber to William IV, 5 Jan 1833-37; Naval ADC to Queen Victoria 1846-53; CO of HM Royal Yacht 1830-53; d unm 17 May 1856 at Newburgh Park, Yorks.
8. Lady Augusta; b 17 Nov 1803 at Bushy House; mar 1stly 5 July 1827 at Hampton, Middx, Hon John Kennedy Erskine, of Dunn, Forfars (b 4 June 1802; d 6 March 1831), 2nd s of Archibald Kennedy, 1st Marquess of Ailsa KT (see AILSA, M); mar 2ndly 24 Aug 1836 at Windsor Castle, Berks, Adm Lord John Frederick Gordon (later Gordon-Hallyburton) GCH, MP, RN (b 15 Aug 1799; dsp29 Sept 1878), 3rd s of George Gordon, 9th Marquess of Huntly (see HUNTLY, M); d 8 Dec 1865, leaving issue by her 1st husband.
9. Rev Lord Augustus, Rector of Mapledurham, Oxf; b 1 March 1805 at Bushy House; educ at Brasenose Coll Oxf (matric 28 June 1824), Trinity Hall Camb (admit 28 Feb 1826; matric Easter 1826; LLB 2 June 1832; LLD 6 July 1835); joined RN in March 1818; ordained in March 1829; Rector of Mapledurham, Oxf 1829-d; Chaplain to Queen Adelaide, 9 Nov 1830-d; mar 2 Jan 1845, Sarah Elizabeth Catherine (d 23 March 1902 at 53 Hans Rd, Chelsea, Middx), eldest dau of Maj Lord Henry Gordon, ygr bro of Charles Gordon, 10th Marquess of Huntly (see HUNTLY, M); d 14 June 1854 (bur at Mapledurham), leaving issue,
9.1. Dorothea; b 27 Oct 1845 at London; mar 17 March 1863, Capt Thomas William Goff, 7th DG, of Carrowroe, co Roscommon, of Carriglea, co Dublin and of 4 Ovington Gdns, London, MP for Roscommon 1859-60, High Sheriff of co Roscommon 1858-59 (d ca 3 June 1876 at 3 Rupert Str, Haymarket, London), eldest s of Rev Thomas Goff, of Oakport, nr Boyle, co Roscommon; d 15 May 1870 (will pr 9 Sept 1876 and re-sealed 20 Sept 1876 in London for £7,000 in England), leaving issue,
9.1.1. Muriel Helen; dvp young (?).
9.1.2. Ethel Anne; b 1864; mar 1stly 23 Dec 1885, Henry de Courcy Agnew (b 1 Nov 1851; d 6 March 1910), 2nd s of Sir Andrew Agnew, 8th Bt, of Lochnaw, Wigtowns (see AGNEW of Lochnaw, Bt); d 1 March 1928, leaving issue.
9.1.3. Thomas Clarence Edward, of Oakport, co Roscommon; b 28 May 1867; mar 15 Apr 1896, Lady Cecile (b 24 June 1874; d 27 July 1960), dau of Gilbert Henry Heathcote-Drummond-Willoughby, 1st Earl of Ancaster (see WILLOUGHBY DE ERESBY, B); d 13 March 1949, leaving issue,
9.1.3.1. Elizabeth Moyra; b 30 May 1897; dvp young (?).
9.1.3.2. Lt Thomas Robert Charles OBE (1959), Scots Grds; b 16 July 1898; educ at Eton, Christ Coll Oxf (BA), Middle Temple (Barrister 1922); served during WWI; sometime ADC to the Gov-Gen of Canada; a noted harpsichord builder; d unm 31 March 1973.
9.2. Eva; b 1 Jan 1847 as a twin at Mapledurham; d unm 2 March 1918 (will pr £20,4561).
9.3. Beatrice; 1 Jan 1847 as a twin at Mapledurham; d unm 18 March 1909 at 6 Brittany Rd, St Leonards-on-Sea (will pr 22 Apr 1909 for £12,778).
9.4. Augustus; b 13 Feb 1849 at Mapledurham; d 16 Oct 1861 at Dresden, modern-day Germany.
9.5. Henry Edward, of 83 Sloane Str, Chelsea (1891) and of 41 Ovington Sq, Kensington, Middx (1901); b 19 Jan 1853 at Mapledurham; mar 11 June 1879, Mary Isobel Parsons (b 1861/61 at Galle, Ceylon; d 17 July 1932 at 41 Ovington Sq, Middx; will dated 17 July 1932 and pr 7 Sept 1932 for £2,974); d 19 Feb 1930, leaving issue,
9.5.1. Capt Augustus Arthur Cornwallis; b 16 March 1880; mar 7 Apr 1910 as her 1st husband, Lady Susan Yorke (b 7 May 1881; d 21 Aug 1965), only dau of John Manners Yorke, 7th Earl of Hardwicke (see HARDWICKE, E); dsp 28 June 1915 having been KIA during WWI.
9.5.2. Cynthia Adela Victoria; b 7 Feb 1887; mar 11 June 1908, Maj Roland George Orred MC, Coldstream Grds (d 20 June 1963), s of Maj John Cavendish Orred, 12th Lancers of Tranmere, Runcorn, Cheshire; d 1970, leaving issue,
9.5.2.1. Diana Susan; b 4 May 1909; d unm 5 Dec 1932.
9.5.2.2. Angela; b 12 March 1915; mar 1939, Thomas L. C. Rolt.
10. Amelia; b 21 March 1807; mar 27 Dec 1830 as his 1st w, Lucius Bentick Cary, 10th Viscount of Falkland GCH (see FALKLAND, V); d 2 July 1858, leaving issue.
The eldest s,
George Augustus Frederick FitzClarence, 1st Earl of Munster also Baron Tewkesbury, in the County of Gloucester and Viscount FitzClarence (so cr 4 June 1831); b 29 June 1794; educ at Dr Moore’s Sch at Sunbury, RMC Marlow; Lt 1809, Maj 1818; Lt-Col 1819; Capt 1825; served during Peninsular War (Battles of Corunna, Fuentes de Oñoro, Toulouse); FRS 1820; ADC to William IV 1830-37; ADC to Queen Victoria 1837-41; DAG of Forces July to Dec 1830; Lt of the Tower of London 1831-32; Constable of Windsor Castle 1833-d; Maj-Gen cmdg W Dist 1841-d; Pres of the Royal Asiatic Soc 1841-d; mar 18 Oct 1819, Mary Wyndham (d 3 Dec 1842), illegit dau of George O’Brien Wyndham, 3rd Earl of Egremont (see LECONFIELD, B), by his mistress, Elizabeth/Eliza Fox (otherwise known as Elizabeth Cole); d 20 March 1842 by committing suicide by shooting himself with a pistol gifted by his f, leaving issue,
1. Lady Adelaide Georgiana, of High Str, Broadwater, Sussex (1871) and of 23 Palmeira Sq, Hove, Sussex (1881); b 28 Oct 1820 at Westminster; d unm 11 Oct 1878 at 23 Palmeira Sq (will dated 10 July 1879 and pr 9 Nov 1883 for £17,315).
2. Lady Augusta Margaret; b 29 July 1822; mar 10 Apr 1844 at the British Embassy, Paris, France as his 1st w, Baron Knut Philip de Bonde, of Eriesberg, Sudermania, Sweden (mar 3rdly 10 Jan 1849 at the British Embassy, Paris, Helena Esther Florence, dau of Sir Richard Robinson, 2nd Bt, of Rokeby Hall, co Louth, who d 1847; d 2 Oct 1871); d 5 Sept 1846 at Stockholm, Sweden, leaving 1 dau.
3. William George, 2nd Earl of Munster (see below).
4. Capt Hon Frederick Charles George DL (Derbys), 10th Hussars, of 2 Petersham Terrace, Queen’s Gate Gdns, Kensington, Middx (1861); b 1 Feb 1826 at St George’s Ch, Hanover Sq; mar 2 Dec 1856 his cousin, Hon Adelaide Augusta Wilhelmina (b 1 June 1826; d 20 Sept 1904), eldest dau of Philip Charles Sidney, 1st Baron de L’Isle and Dudley (see DE L’ISLE, V); dsp 17 Dec 1878 at 43 Queen’s Gate Gdns, Kensington (will pr 1 Feb 1879 for under £30,000).
5. Mary Gertrude; b 31 Oct 1834; dvp an infant.
6. Capt Hon George RN, of 1 Warwick Sq, Westminster (1871); b 15 Apr 1836 at Brighton, Sussex; mar 5 July 1864 at St George’s Chapel, Hanover Sq, Lady Maria Henrietta (b 10 Oct 1841; d 27 July 1912), eldest dau of John Henry Scott, 3rd Earl of Clonmell (see CLONMELL, E); d 24 March 1894 at Moorcroft, Hillingdon, Middx (will dated 10 Dec 1864 and admon granted 10 May 1894 for£ 6,807), leaving with other issue,
6.1. Brig-Gen Charles VC (6 July 1900); b 8 May 1865 in co Kildare; educ at RMA Sandhurst; served during Boer War 1899-1901 and WWI; CO of 29th Brigade 1914; Cdr of 1st Grds Brigade 1914-d; mar 20 Apr 1898 at the Citadel of Cairo, Egypt, Violet (d 22 Dec 1941), paternal granddau of George Spencer-Churchill, 6th Duke of Marlborough (see MARLBOROUGH, D); KIA 12 Nov 1914 at Polygon Wood, Zonnebeke, Belgium during WWI, leaving issue,
6.1.1. Edward Charles, 6th Earl of Munster (see below).
6.1.2. Joan Harriet; b 23 Dec 1901; d unm 6 Jan 1971.
7. Lt Hon Edward, 7th Fusil; b 8 July 1837; d unm 23 July 1855 having suffered from wounds received in action at the Battle of Great Redan during the Crimean War.
The eldest s,
William George FitzClarence, 2nd Earl of Munster DL (Middx); b 19 May 1824; educ at Harrow; Capt with 1st Life Grds 1842-52; mar 17 Apr 1855 his cousin, Wilhelmina (b 27 June 1830; d 9 Oct 1906), paternal granddau of Archibald Kennedy, 1st Marquess of Ailsa KT (see AILSA, M); d 30 Apr 1901, leaving issue,
1. Edward, styled Viscount FitzClarence; b 29 March 1856; dvp 20 Nov 1870.
2. Hon Lionel Frederick Archibald; b 24 July 1857; dvp 24 March 1863.
3. Geoffrey George Gordon, 3rd Earl of Munster (see below).
4. Hon Arthur Falkland Manners; b 18 Oct 1860; dvp 20 Apr 1861 an infant.
5. Aubrey, 4th Earl of Munster (see below).
6. Hon William George; b 17 Sept 1864; mar 1887, Elizabeth Aline Williams (d 5 Sept 1902); dspm 4 Oct 1899, leaving issue,
6.1. Dorothy Margaret Aline; b 23 Sept 1888; mar 11 Sept 1909, Cecil Cadogan Elborough, s of Alfred Louis Elborough, of Lancing, Sussex.
6.2. Wilhelmine Violet Eileen; b 17 July 1894; mar 19 Jan 1918, Maj Cecil John Cokayne Maunsell JP, RFA, of Thorpe Malsor Hall, Kettering and of Rothwell Grange, Northants, High Sheriff of Northants 1928-29 (b 2 Feb 1881; d 11 Feb 1948); d 12 Feb 1962, leaving issue,
6.2.1. Cecilia Violet Cokayne Maunsell; b 24 Feb 1919; mar 1stly 12 Oct 1940 (div 1958) as his 1st w, Sir George Arnold Ford Kennard, of Fernhill, Southants (b 27 Apr 1915; dspm 13 Dec 1999); mar 2ndly 1958, Maj Joseph Mark Fearfield, of Kettering, Northants (b 13 Aug 1924; d 2005), s of Joseph Fearfield, by Cicely Hellen Follett; d Jan 2001, leaving issue by her 1st husband,
6.2.1.1. Zandra; b 17 June 1941; mar 18 Aug 1962, •Maj John “Johnnie” Middleton Neilson Powell, Queen’s Royal Ir Hussars, of Catsley Farmhouse, Corscombe, Dorchester, Dorset (1999) (b 1936), s of Maj John Beresford Powell MC, of Hightown, Aldbourne, Wilts (b 1896; d 1976), by Fortune (b 1900; d 1988), dau of Capt Middleton Middleton (b 1872; d 1931); d 8 Aug 2023, leaving issue,
6.2.1.1.1. •Edward Coleridge Cokayne; b 2 Feb 1964; mar 1990?, Maria L. Thompson, and has issue,
6.2.1.1.1.1. • (Scott) Daniel; b 1992.
6.2.1.1.1.2. •Nikita.
6.2.1.1.2. •Louise; b 20 Nov 1966.
7. T-Maj Hon Harold Edward MC; b 15 Nov 1870; sometime Gov of Manchester Prison; mar 14 May 1902, Frances Isabel Eleanor (d 1 Feb 1951), eldest dau of Lt-Col William Henry Augustus Keppel, of Lexham Hall, Norfolk (see ALBEMARLE, E); d 28 Aug 1926, leaving issue,
7.1. Geoffrey William Richard Hugh, 5th Earl of Munster (see below).
7.2. Lady Wilhelmina Joan Mary; b 17 Nov 1904; granted the style and precedence of the dau of an Earl by Royal Warrant dated 12 Apr 1928; mar 1stly 21 Apr 1928, Col Oliver Birkbeck DL (b 6 May 1893; d 13 May 1952), eldest s of Edward Lewis Birkbeck (d 12 Oct 1901); mar 2ndly 28 Apr 1961 as his 2nd w, Lt-Col Jon Cator MC, JP, DL, of Woodbastwick Hall, Norfolk (b 25 Jan 1897; d 27 March 1965), only s of John Cator JP, DL, of the same, High Sheriff of Norfolk 1920-21 (b 24 Sept 1862; d 27 Apr 1944); d 1992 at Little Massingham, Norfolk, leaving issue by her 1st husband,
7.2.1. Edward Harold, of Skeffington Hall, Leics (2003); b 2 May 1929; educ at Eton, RMA Sandhurst; mar 11 June 1958, Sarah Anne (d 12 May 2012 at Dumfries), dau of Capt Edward William Brook, 20th Hussars, of 2 Mansfield Str, London (d 20 Jan 1963); d 9 Feb 2005, leaving issue,
7.2.1.1. •Elizabeth Mary; b 17 Oct 1960.
7.2.1.2. •Nicola Susan; b 2 Dec 1962.
7.2.1.3. •George Charles Edward; b 8 Dec 1964.
7.2.2. •Mary Joan; b 13 Sept 1931; winning trainer of the Waterloo Cup 1973; d unm 8 Jan 2016 and was bur 28 Jan at St Andrew’s Ch, Little Massingham, Norfolk.
7.2.3. •John Oliver Charles, of Litcham Hall, King’s Lynn, Norfolk (1999); b 22 June 1936; educ at Gordonstoun; mar 2 May 1964, •Hermione Anne (b 5 Dec 1941), dau of Maj D’Arcy Armytage Dawes OBE, of Leacon Hall, Warehorne, Kent (d 30 Jan 1967), and has issue,
7.2.3.1. •Lucy Claire; b 7 Oct 1966; mar •— Leitao.
7.2.3.2. •Oliver Benjamin; b 3 Apr 1973; mar 12 May 2018, •Hon Laura Mary (b 20 Dec 1987), 2nd and ygr dau of Hugh Trenchard, 3rd Viscount Trenchard (see TRENCHARD, V).
7.2.3.3. •Rosanna Mary; b 11 Nov 1974; mar •Michael W. Tremayne, s of John Tremayne, of Easton Gray, Wilts, and has issue,
7.2.3.3.1. •Emily Rose; b 15 July 2004.
7.2.3.3.2. •Benjamin William; b 31 March 2006.
8. Lady Lillian Adelaide Katherine Mary; b 10 Dec 1873; mar 17 Jan 1893, Capt William Arthur Edward Boyd (d 6 Dec 1931), only surv s of Curwen Boyd, of Merton Hall, Wigtowns; d 15 July 1948, leaving issue,
8.1. Phyllis Meeta; b 1894; mar 17 Jan 1922 (div), Henri Louis Leon de Janzé, Vicomte de Janzé, s of François Louis Leon de Janzé, Vicomte de Janzé; dsp 19 March 1943.
8.2. Benjamin Harold Alan; b 26 July 1912; d unm22 Nov 1930.
The eldest s,
Geoffrey George Gordon FitzClarence, 3rd Earl of Munster DSO; b 18 July 1859; served during Second Anglo-Afghan War 1879-80 (medal with 3 clasps; fought at Battles of Ahmed Khel and Kandahar); First Boer War 1881, Second Boer War 1899-1902 (Queen’s Medal; King’s Medal; 5 clasps; despatches); Hon Maj with 3rd (Militia) Btn Royal Scots; d unm 2 Feb 1902, when he was suc by his ygr bro,
Aubrey FitzClarence, 4th Earl of Munster; b 7 June 1862; Gent Usher to Queen Victoria 1885-1901; Gent Usher to Edward VII 1901-02; d unm 1 Jan 1928, when he was suc by his nephew,
Geoffrey William Richard Hugh FitzClarence, 5th Earl of Munster KBE (1957), PC (1954); b 17 Feb 1906; educ at Charterhouse; Ld-in-W to George V 1934-38; Paymaster Gen 1938-39; U-SoS: War 1939, Home Dept 1944-45, Colonies 1951-54; Parl Sec for India and Burma 1943-44; Min-w/o-Portfolio 1954-57; Ld-Lt and Custos Rot of Surrey 1957-73; mar 9 July 1928, Hilary, only child of Edward Kenneth Wilson, of Cannizaro Park, Wimbledon, Surrey and of Tranby Croft, Yorks, by Adela Mary, only dau of George Algernon Beyron Disney Hacket, of Moor Hall, Warwicks; dsp 27 Aug 1975, when he was suc by his cousin,
Edward Charles FitzClarence, 6th Earl of Munster; b 3 Oct 1899; educ at Eton, RMA Sandhurst; sometime Capt with Ir Grds; mar 1stly 30 July 1925 (div 1930), Monica Sheila Harrington (mar 2ndly Robert W. Simonds, of Tite Str, London SW; d 5 Oct 1958), 4th dau of Sir Henry Molyneux Grayson, 1st Bt, of Ravenspoint, Anglesey (see GRAYSON of Ravenspoint, Bt); mar 2ndly 28 Sept 1939, Vivian (b ca 1909; d 7 Apr 2008), yst dau of Benjamin Schofield, of Greenroyde, Rochdale, Lancs; d 15 Nov 1983, leaving issue by his 2nd w,
1. Anthony Charles, 7th Earl of Munster (see below).
2. Lady Mary Jill; b 6 Feb 1928; mar 1stly 4 June 1953 at NY, USA (annulled 1960), Melvin Flyer (b 28 Apr 1929 at Brooklyn, NY, USA; d 7 Feb 2024 at San Francisco, CA, USA), s of Philip Flyer, by Sadie Weiss; mar 2ndly 28 March 1968, John Walter (b 31 Oct 1908; d 1980), eldest s of John Walter, of Hove, Sussex; dsp 17 Jan 1971.
The only s,
Anthony Charles FitzClarence, 7th Earl of Munster; b 21 March 1926; educ at St Edward’s Sch (Oxon), privately in Switzerland, Central Sch of Arts and Crafts at London; served during WWII with RN (wounded in action); retired from the RN in 1947; graphic designer from 1950; worked with Daily Mirror 1957-66 and Sun 1966-69; Medieval glass conservator with the Burrell Collection 1979-83; sometime FSA; mar 1stly 28 July 1949 (div 1966), Louise Margaret Diane, dau of Louis Delvigne, of Liege, Belgium, and had issue,
1. •Lady Tara Francesca; b 6 Aug 1952; sometime Dir of Sotheby’s; mar 1stly 1979, Ross Jean Heffler, of 146 Ramsden Rd, London SW12 (2003) (d 2015); mar 2ndly 2022, •Peter Stuart Dangerfield (b Oct 1949), and has issue by her 1st husband,
1.1. •Alexandra Louise; b 1982.
1.2. •Leo Edward Michael; b 1985.
2. •Lady Finola Dominique [Lady Finola Poynton, 1660 Lyon Str, San Francisco, CA, USA (2003)]; b 6 Dec 1953; mar 1981, •Jonathan Terence Poynton, 2nd s of D R. Poynton, of Woodford, Cheshire, and has issue,
2.1. •Chloë Nona; b 1982.
2.2. •Oliver Maximilian Christopher; b 1984.
(continued) 7th Earl of Munster mar 2ndly 18 June 1966 (div 1979), Pamela Margaret, former w of — Hyde and dau of Arthur Spooner, and had further issue,
3. •Lady Georgiana; b 1966; mar 1stly (div?), —; mar 2ndly (div 2015), Paul Phillips; mar 3rdly 2019, •Anthony David Middleton (b Feb 1952), and has 1 s by her 2nd marriage.
(continued) 7th Earl of Munster had by his 2nd w prior to their marriage,
4. •(Lady) Charlotte Catherine (formerly Oonagh Sarah upon birth and later renamed as such by her adoptive parents, John and Rowena Lawrence Mills); b 1964; mar 1987, •Raymond Burt, and has 1 s and 2 dau.
(continued) 7th Earl of Munster mar 3rdly 1979 (div), Dorothy Alexa (b 22 Dec 1924; dsp 13 June 1995), yst dau of Lt-Col Edward Boyd Maxwell OBE, MC; mar 4thly 4 May 1997, •Dr Halina Winska-Wiloch, a rheumatologist; dspm 30 Dec 2000, when all the peerages became EXTINCT.
Lineage of Bland: John Bland, of Sedbergh, Yorks, had a s,
Very Rev James Bland, Archdeacon of Limerick, had a s,
Rev Nathaniel Bland, of Derriquin Castle, co Kerrry; b 1695/96 at Killarney, co Kerry; educ at Sedbergh Sch, Trinity Coll Dublin (admit 10 June 1712 aged 16 as pensioner; LLB Spring 1724; LLD Summer 1727); Vicar-Gen of the Diocese of Ardfert and Aghadoe and Judge of the Prerogative Court of Armagh; mar 1stly (by lic dated 1721), Diana, only dau and hrss of Nicholas Kemeys JP, of Clonmore and of St Bridgets, Dublin, by Mary, dau of Richard Crofts, of Dublin, and had issue,
1. John; b 1720/21; Cornet with Bland’s Horse and served during the War of the Austrian Succession (fought at Battles of Dettingen, Clifton Moor; taken prisoner at Battle of Fontenoy); became actor in 1751 and was disinherited by his f; mar Nancy —, an actress; d 1808 (aged 87), and had issue,
1.1. James, of Lancaster; b 1784 at London; apparently lived with a Susannah Cunningham, former w of James Dalrymple, of Grangefield, Lancs and mistress of Henry Mill, of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumb, a comedian (d 1784); subsequently lived with or mar, Henrietta, sis of Mrs Stephen Kemble, Mrs John Duill (later Mrs John Taylor) and Mrs Robert Benson and dau of John Satchell, of London, a musical instrument maker, and had issue,
1.1.1. John; bapt 25 Oct 1798 at All Saints Ch, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumb (entry as the 2nd s); an actor; mar 19 Feb 1828 at Kingston-upon-Hull, Yorks, Georgina Freeth (d 1881), an actress, eldest dau of Samuel Glover, by Julia Betterson.
1.2. John, of Edinburgh; an actor; apparently mar Henrietta Mills (née Stamper), widow of John Mills, an actor (d 1787), but this seems to be a mistaken identification based on his brother’s involvement with the w of Henry Mills and she may have been the Mrs Bland, of Swansea Theatre who d 11 Oct 1808; d ca 1796.
1.3. Edward; mar Jane —, whose f consented to the marriage in 1787, and had issue,
1.3.1. Martha; b 12 Sept 1767 (bapt 27 Sept at St Martin-in-the-Fields Ch, Middx); mar (by lic from the Bp of London dated 1787 at St Pancras’s Ch, Middx), Antonio Angelo Tremamondo, commonly known as “Anthony Angelo”, Capt in the Bodyguard of Warren Hastings PC, FRS, Gov-Gen of the Presidency of Fort William 1772-73, 1773-85 (b 1747/48; d 2 Oct 1829 at Newman Str, Marylebone, Middx aged 82; will dated 21 Jan 1828 and pr 16 Oct 1829), and had issue.
2. Rev James, of Derriquin Castle, co Kerry; bapt 15 Nov 1727 at St Peter and St Kevin’s Ch, Dublin; mar 1stly, Elizabeth, dau of Christopher Julian; mar 2ndly, Barbara Nash, and had with other issue by his 1st w,
2.1. Francis Christopher JP, DL, of Derriquin Castle; mar 15 March 1798, Lucinda, dau of Arthur Bastable Herbert, of Brewsterfield, co Kerry; d 16 Sept 1838, leaving with other issue,
2.1.1. James Franklin JP, of Derriquin Castle; b 24 Jan 1799; High Sheriff of co Kerry 1835-36; mar —; d 6 March 1863, leaving issue.
2.2. Letitia; mar her 2nd cousin, Maj Nathaniel Bland, and had issue,
2.2.1. Very Rev Nathaniel, Archdeacon of Aghadoe 1861-d; b 1809; educ at Trinity Coll Dublin; d 25 Feb 1885.
(continued) Rev Nathaniel mar 2ndly, Lucy, aunt of Sir Francis Lumm, 1st Bt, of Lumville, King’s co (dspm 1796 or 1797) and dau and cohrss of Francis Heaton, of Mount Heaton, King’s co; d 1760 (will pr 1760), leaving further issue by his 2nd w,
3. Francis (see below).
4. Nathaniel; b bef 1753; mar 6 Sept 1773 (lic from the Bp of London dated 30 Aug 1774 at St James’s Ch, Clerkenwell, Middx), Mary Meade, of St James’s, Clerkenwell, and dsp.
5. George; mar Hannah Westropp, and dsp.
6. Lucy; mar 1 Aug 1759, George Orpen (d ca 1784 having previously been wounded at the Battle of Minden while in the Army), 4th s of Rev Thomas Orpen JP, of Killowen, co Kerry, Rector of Kenmare; d ca 1784, leaving issue,
6.1. Capt Thomas, Kerry Militia; d unm 1829.
6.2. Maj Henry Francis, 60th RoF; d unm 1809 having been slain at the Battle of Talavera during the Peninsular War.
6.3. Lucy; mar 11 Apr 1811, Capt Alexander Strange, Paymaster of the 13th LD and Mil Kt of Windsor who was a veteran of the Penninsular War (d Nov 1840), and was grandm of,
6.3.1. Maj-Gen Thomas Bland “Gunner Jingo” RA; b 15 Sept 1831 at Meerut, British India; educ at Edinburgh Academy, RMA Wolwich; RA; 1st Lt 21 Nov 1852, 2nd Capt 16 Sept 1858; served during the Indian Rebellion of 1857 (fought at the Siege of Lucknow; mentioned in despatches four times; Indian Mutiny Medal), North-West Rebellion of 1885 with the Canadian Militia; mar Nov 1862 at Simla, British India, Maria Elinor Taylor; d 9 July 1925 at Camberley, Surrey, leaving 2 s.
7. Hester; appeared as Miss Sinclair at Bushy ca 1800 and stayed in attendance of Mrs Dorothea Jordan for many years; mar Robert Sinclair, Laird of Freswick, Caithness.
8. Dorothea; mar Francis Crumpe, and had with other issue,
8.1. Nathaniel Crumpe (later Crumpe Bland by Royal Lic dated 21 Oct 1811), of 1 Montague Sq, Middx; mar bef 1794, Arabella O’Neill; bur 7 Nov 1840 at All Souls Cemetery, Kensal Green, Middx (aged 74; will dated 20 Aug 1833, 22 Feb 1839, 26 Oct 1840 and pr 26 Nov 1840), leaving (perhaps with other) issue,
8.1.1. James; b 5 Dec 1793 (bapt 25 Jan 1794 at St Marylebone’s Ch, Middx).
8.1.2. Francis; b 1799 at Neath, Glamorgans; mar (by lic dated 25 Sept 1824 at St Marylebone’s Ch, Middx), Capt John Bateman, Kerry Militia of Oak Park, co Kerry and of Leslie Park Rd, Croydon, Surrey, a landed proprietor (b 1892/93 at Dublin; d 1 Oct 1863 at Leslie Terrace, Croydon; will pr 27 Oct 1863 for under £1,000; re-sworn July 1865 for under £1,500); d March 1858 at Croydon.
8.1.3. Nathaniel, of Randall’s House, Leatherhead, Surrey (1841) and of 83 Gloster Place, Marylebone, Middx (1851); b 6 Oct 1803 (bapt 29 Oct at St Peter’s Ch, Liverpool); educ at Christ Church Oxf (matric 16 Oct 1821 aged 18; BA 1825; MA 1845); a landed proprietor; mar Anna Maria Smith (b 1851 at Vizagapatam, Madras, British India; aged 35 in 1851); committed suicide 10 Aug 1865 at Homburg.
8.1.4. Dorothy; named in the second codicil to the will of her f in 1840; mar (by lic dated 22 July 1816 at St Marylebone’s Ch, Middx), Richard Matthew Henry Holland, and had issue,
8.1.4.1. Lt Frederick, 21st Fusil; named in the second codicil to the will of his grandf in 1840.
8.1.5. Isabella; named in the will of her f in 1833; mar — de Sorbein (d bef 1833), and had issue,
8.1.5.1. Frederick; named in the second will of his grandf in 1840 when he was then underage).
The 3rd s by the 2nd w,
Capt Francis Bland; b 1736; mar 1stly (annulled as they were underage for a RC marriage but later subsequently lived with), Grace, an actress (b ca 1740 d 1789 at Edinburgh), dau of Rev Richard Phillips (see Lineage of Phillips below); mar 2ndly 1774 (in which same year he abandoned Grace), “Mrs Francis”, an actress on the York circuit; d 2 Jan 1778 at Dover on his way from France due to ill health (bur 4 Jan at St Mary’s Ch, Dover, Kent; admon granted 1778), leaving issue (whose birth order is unknown),
1. George, of 93 Strand (1793) and of 12 St Albans Str, London (1794); an actor; possibly the singer known as “Master Francis” at York in 1785; withdrew from the London stage in 1796 and was in debt; lived with his sis Mrs Jordan but later went to America and acted in NY as “Wilson” 1802-05; mar 21 Oct 1790 at St Paul’s Ch, Covent Gdn, Middx, Maria Theresa, an actress as “Miss Romazini” 1773-1822 who later deserted her husband in 1795 and lived 1798-1801 and had at least 3 children by Thomas Caulfield, a comedian (d 1815 at KY, USA), but he too deserted her to go to America in 1806 and she became an imbecile in 1824 (b 9 Sept 1770 at Caen, France; bapt 10 Sept 1770 as Maria Theresa Catherine Tersi; d 15 Jan 1838 at Broadway, Westminster; bur 25 Jan at St Margaret’s Ch there), dau of Alexander Tersi, a strolling player from Rome, by Catherine Zeli, a Jewess from Florence; d about 4 months in 1796 in poverty, leaving issue,
1.1. Lt George RN; probably the child of that name b 14 Sept 1791; named in the will of his grandm Catharine Romazini in 1798; RN: joined 15 Jan 1806; Midshipman 3 March 1808, Lt 11 Feb 1815, half-pay 1832; prisoner in France 1812-14; Naval Kt of Windsor 1834-d; will dated 27 Dec 1851 and pr 5 Apr 1852 by Ann Smith, a widow and his housekeeper being his sole legatee and executrix.
1.2. A dau; a twin; perhaps the child burned to death as reported on 4 March 1800.
1.3. A dau; a twin; perhaps the Miss Bland who sang at Sadler’s Wells in 1801.
1.4. Thomas; b 29 March 1796 (bapt 10 May at St Paul’s Ch, Covent Gdn as s of George and Theresa Bland); named in the will of his grandm Catherine Romazini in 1798.
1.5. James Caulfield; b 8 March 1798 (bapt 16 July 1809 at St Mary’s Ch, Ealing, Middx as the base born s of Maria Bland); a singer and actor; named in the will of his grandm Catherine Romazini in 1798; later burlesque actor from 1822; suddenly d 17 July 1861 at the stage door of the Strand Theatre, Surrey Str, London.
1.6. William; named in the will of his grandm Catherine Romazini in 1798; perhaps dvp young.
1.7. George Henry, of New Str, Leicester (1838) and of 108 Strand, Savoy, Westminster (1851); b 24 Apr 1800 (bapt 16 July 1809 at St Mary’s Ch, Ealing as the based s of Maria Bland); a dancing master; mar 1stly 1828 at St Pancras’s Ch, Middx, Angelina Bundock (b at Hamburgh; d Dec 1856 at London aged 46; bur 8 Nov at Brompton Cemetery, Middx from James Str, Covent Gdn); mar 2ndly (banns read 27 Apr 1857 at All Souls Ch, Marylebone, Middx), Anna, dau of George Turlington, a tailor; d 8 Apr 1886 a 22 Golden Sq, Middx (bur 13 Apr at Brompton Cemetery; will pr 22 June 1886 for £35), leaving issue.
1.8. Charles Caulfield; b 14 Aug 1801 (bapt 16 July 1808 at St Mary’s Ch, Ealing as the base s of Maria Bland); singer at Covent Garden 1824-38; liv 24 Jan 1838.
2. Hester, of Trelethin, St David’s, Pembs; bapt 2 March 1760 at St Anne’s Ch, Soho, Middx; actress at Kingston-upon-Hull and York as “Miss Hester Francis”; pensioned by Queen Victoria; bur unm 8 March 1848 at St David’s.
3. Dorothy (see below).
4. Lucy; b 1763/64; d 1778 at Trelethin, Pembs (bur there).
5. Capt Francis, of Cathedral Close, St David’s, Pembs; liv 1813 and dsp.
6. Nathaniel Phillips; b 1766/67; educ at Brasenose Coll Oxf (admit 20 Oct 1785 aged 18 as gent; BA 1790); mar Phoebe James (d 22 June 1852; bur 26 June at St David’s, Pembs; will dated 20 May 1852 and pr 10 July 1852 by her nephew Arthur James for under £100); d (sp?) 31 May 1830 (bur 3 June at St David’s, Pembs).
7. Francis, of St Botolph Aldgate, CoL; mar 17 May 1774 (lic from the Bp of London dated 23 Apr 1774 at St Botolph Aldgate), Catherine Mahony, of St Botolph Aldgate but said to be from Killarney (executrix to her husband in 1778), and had isse.
8. Col James Francis, of Killarney.
9. Francis Jane; mar 1807, Rev Robert Hewson MA, Perpetual Curate of Kilcolma, co Kerry (b 1780; d 27 May 1840), s of Rev Francis Hewson, of Ennismore; d 1 Jan 1854, leaving with other issue,
9.1. Rev Francis “Frank”, of Inch House, Killarney, co Kerry; b 23 Dec 1809; educ at Trinity Coll Dublin (BA 1827; MA 1832); ordained Deacon in 1830; mar 16 Jan 1839, Emilie (d 14 Apr 1866), sis of Gathorne Hardy, 1st Earl of Cranbrook and dau of John Hardy MP, of Dunstall Hall, Staffs (see CRANBROOK, E); d 5 Apr 1879, leaving issue.
9.2. James Bland; barrister; named in the will of his f’s cousin Nathaniel Bland in 1833.
The 3rd dau,
Dorothy Bland; b 22 Nov 1761 (bapt 5 Dec at St Martin-in-the-Fields Ch, Middx); an actress as “Mrs Jordan”; mistress of Sir Richard Ford, MP for East Grinstead 1789-90 and Appleby 1790-91 (b ca 1759; d 1806) 1786-90 and by whom she had 1 illegit s and 2 illegit dau; mistress of the future William IV while he was still Duke of Clarence 1791-1811 and by whom she had 5 illegit s and 5 illegit dau (see Lineage of FitzClarence above); d unm 5 July 1816 at 1 Rue d’Angouleme, Saint-Cloud, Paris, France in poverty.
Lineage of Phillips: Rev Scudamore Phillips; b ca 1659/60; educ at Trinity Coll Dublin (admit 20 July 1681 aged 21 as pensioner); presumably the man of that name who was Curate of Lampeter Velfrey, Pembs from 27 June 1688; mar —, and had a s,
Rev Richard Phillips, Vicar of Jordanston, Pembs; b ca 1685/86; educ at Jesus Coll Oxf (admit 15 May 1702 aged 16); mar bef 1720, and had at least 4 dau (whose birth order is unknown),
1. Blanche Scudamore; b ca 1719/20; mar (by lic dated 10 Aug 1758) as his 1st w, Thomas Williams, of White Church, Pembs and of Trelethin, St David’s, Pembs (will pr 24 Dec 1799); dsp 1788 (bur 7 Jan 1788 at St David’s from Trelethin aged 68; will dated 3 June 1811 and pr 4 July 1811 by her nephew John Hill Harries).
2. A dau; an actress as “Miss Phillips”; mar autumn 1758 at Dublin, Howard Usher, an actor (d Apr 1802; will dated 4 Apr and pr 12 Apr 1802); liv 1799, and had issue,
2.1. A dau; an actress as “Miss Usher”; perhaps at Bristol 1778-79, Belfast 1784, Ennis 1790.
3. Maria; an actress; d shortly aft Aug 1782.
4. Grace; probably b ca 1740 in England or Wales; an actress; mar (annulled as they were underage for a RC marriage but later subsequently lived with), Capt Francis Bland (see Lineage of Bland above); d 1789 at Edinburgh, leaving issue by Capt Bland.
S.S.
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For Dorothy's relationship with Richard Ford, see here, including footnotes:
https://libsvcs-1.its.yale.edu/hwcorrespondence/page.asp?vol=11&seq=426&type=b
[16 September 1791] "... do you know that Mrs Jordan is acknowledged to be Mrs Ford..." though the footnotes show that she never married him.
and
https://libsvcs-1.its.yale.edu/hwcorrespondence/page.asp?vol=11&seq=442&type=b
[16 October 1791] "Mrs Jordan, whom Mr Ford had declared his wife and presented her as such to some ladies at Richmond, has resumed her former name, and is said to be much at a principal villa at Petersham..."
Later, 18 August 1795, HW calls her "Nel of Clarence".
https://libsvcs-1.its.yale.edu/hwcorrespondence/page.asp?vol=12&seq=164&type=b
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By that logic every sibling of a peer whose sibling would have succeeded to a title should also bear a courtesy title. Though that of course does not happen until they receive one by royal warrant.S.S.
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"S. S. wrote:
By that logic every sibling of a peer whose sibling would have succeeded to a title should also bear a courtesy title. Though that of course does not happen until they receive one by royal warrant. "
In the case I stated, the only question is whether any or all children of a Peer should be accorded Courtesy styles. Sometimes people don't notice that the terms "Courtesy titles" or "Courtesy styles" contain the word "Courtesy". I see no harm in a parent using such a style for all of his children, whether born in wedlock or not, if he uses it for some of them. I'm sure that's what was going through the minds of the Harewoods when they used "Hon." for such children, even if such usage is not authorized by law.
