Warman/Joicey-Cecil engagement

[Michael Rhodes]

_. The engagement was announced 14 July, 2016, between Jake M.G.S. Warman, son of Mr Alister S. Warman, of London, & Mrs Mary Anne Guthrie-Warman (nee Mary Anne Guthrie), of Vancouver, Canada, & Susanna Maud Joicey-Cecil (b 25 March, 1981), a scion of the Marquesses of Exeter, second daughter of James David Edward Joicey-Cecil (b 24 Sept, 1946), of Milton Abbas, Dorset, by his wife the former Jane Susanna Brydon Adeley.

Susanna Joicey-Cecilo is a kinswoman of Her Majesty the Queen. Her grandfather, Edward Wilfred George Joicey-Cecil, married 1945, Rosemary Luisa Bowes Lyon (1915-89), a first cousin of Queen Elizabeth II, daughter of Capt the Hon Fergus Bowes Lyon (1889-1915), a brother of Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother.

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[G. Willis]

A few minor notes: Jake Warman- a solicitor- is fully Jake Mark Guthrie Seagar (perhaps simply misspelled in records; see below) Warman, born 1979, according to various sources. His father, Alister Seager (note the different spelling, according to all sources I've encountered) Warman (b. 1946), is an academic: http://www.debretts.com/people-of-today/profile/32916/Alister-Seager-WARMAN

Presumably this, in turn, is his father, Mark Seager Warman: http://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/33258/warman 

Other sources indicate that he was a master at Harrow.

The family is mentioned in Lewis Carroll's Diaries, as can be viewed (to some extent) on Google books here: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=xhZXAAAAYAAJ&q=Seagar+Warman&dq=Seagar+Warman&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiilqCTsPPNAhWLDMAKHRjaD44Q6AEIKTAC and https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=IoUrAQAAIAAJ&q=Seagar+Warman&dq=Seagar+Warman&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiilqCTsPPNAhWLDMAKHRjaD44Q6AEILzAD

[colinp]

Jake Warman's father, Alister Warman (Director of the Serpentine Gallery), died 29 May 2020.  See obit in Daily Telegraph 17 June 2020 - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2020/06/17/alister-warman-director-serpentine-gallery-obituary/

EXTRACTS

Alister Warman, who has died aged 73, was a director of the Serpentine Gallery and the last principal of the Byam Shaw School of Art before it was subsumed by Central Saint Martins, part of the University of the Arts, London.

The Warmans are something of a Harrovian dynasty, founded by Alister Warman’s father, Mark Warman, a long-remembered head of classics and, aided by his wife “Bobbie”, housemaster of the Head Master’s and then Newlands. Their eldest daughter Anthea married Peter Stillwell, housemaster of the Grove; and the three Warman boys, Alister the eldest, attended the school, a connection set to extend to the fourth generation.

Jamie Warman, a distinguished City banker, described his eldest brother having many of their father’s traits, including a “quiet, scholarly manner” and a complete absence of financial ambition. Breadth of cultural interest, gentle wit, encouragement of the young and a relaxed approach to life, all bore the paternal mark. “It is never a waste of time to gaze out of the window,” his father once told him.

During the Serpentine years Warman’s marriage to Anne Guthrie, with whom he had two children, Jake and Rebecca, ended in divorce and he entered into a relationship with the abstract painter Alison Turnbull. It was an arrangement which allowed them to pursue separate careers with equal success from their London home.

Alister Warman is survived by Alison Turnbull and by his son and daughter.

Alister Warman, born December 9 1946, died May 29 2020 

[G. Willis]

Given the recent posting on the Warman family, some notes for possible future reference, put here since I previously posted some details in 2016:

Alister Seager Warman eldest s. of, as in the above obit. Colin posted, Mark Seager Warman (1916-2004), of Naphill Cottage, Bull Lane, Chalfont St Peter, Bucks., head of classics and housemaster at Harrow, and Zillah ("Bobbie") Frances Sarah (1923-2009); the birth record of Zillah F. S. Whittle gives mother as "Short", so per corresponding marriage records her father may have been Sidney Whittle, of Portsmouth, who m. 1920 Ann J. Short, but unable to confirm. This possibly the man of that name b. 1892, res. 1911 census as a boarder at Eling, Hants., corn merchant's traveller.

M. S. Warman elder s. of Arthur Seager Warman (1870-1946), of The Red House, Knotty Green, Beaconsfield, Bucks., educ. Marlborough, Corpus Christi Coll. Oxon. (B.A. 1894), temp. high master (1930), 2nd master, formerly assistant master, Manchester Grammar Sch. 1893-1930, and (m. 1915) Rosalind Anna Louisa [/Louise] (1887-1973), dau. of (Carl Englebert) Oswald Hillerns (1848-1923), of Roselands, Ambleside, Westmorland, formerly of Hull, Yorks. 

A. S. Warman elder s. of John Seager Warman (1840-1918), of 17, Norham Gardens, Oxford, educ. Balliol Coll., Oxon. (B.A. 1865, M.A. 1867), vicar of Blackmoor, nr Petersfield, Hants. 1880-4, rector of Boxford, Colchester in 1884, and (m. 1869) Lucy Hutchinson (1842-1873), dau. of Rev. James Tate [John Seager Warman m. 2nd, 1875, his wife's cousin, Frances Ellen (1847-1877), dau. of Rev. Francis Blackburn Tate, issue 1 dau.; he m. 3rd, 1880, Clara (1842-1882), née Howard (her parentage difficult to ascertain based on number of options in available records), issue 1 s.]

J. S. Warman 2nd s. of John Hughes Warman (1805-1882), of Beaufort West, Walcot, Bath, Somerset, formerly of Ebley House, Stroud, Glos., solicitor (also "gentleman" and "attorney"), and (m. 1834) Anne Seager (1811 [per census] 1806 [per b/d records]-1894), dau. of James Buckland, of Crudwell, Wilts., who had an interest in the Hampstead Brewery (operated by Messrs Shepheard and Buckland- the Buckland family owned The Grove or Chelworth manor, Crudwell, in the late 1800s. James was presumably descended from John Buckland (1719-1770), of Crudwell, who m. Elizabeth (1733-1806), dau. of John Seager.

J. H. Warman s. of William Warman, of Wootton Bassett, Wilts., and (m. 1784), Mary, dau. of - Hughes.

[G. Willis]

Per sources including the Rugby School Archives, which has an entry on his son Maj. H. W. O. Hillerns, R.F.A., Rosalind Warman's father C. E. Oswald Hillerns was a merchant, and at the time of his son's death in action in 1917 was resident at Fairway, Dissey, Cheshire.