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LoopyCrown3

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Jul 6, 2024, 7:24:16 PM7/6/24
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William James Lindesay-Bethune, Viscount of Garnock, Master of Lindsay (b. 30 December 1990) son and heir of the 16th Earl of Lindsay and his wife Diana Mary (nee Chamberlayne-Macdonald) has become engaged Lady Violet Diana Louise Manners (b. 18 August 1993) daughter of the 11th Duke of Rutland and his wife Emma (nee Watkins)
Lady Violet announced it via her Instagram account.

https:/www.maltagenealogy.com/LeighRayment/

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Jul 6, 2024, 7:36:43 PM7/6/24
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Love these matches !! Fewer and fewer nowadays of Aristocratic (titled/titled) matches. 

bx...@yahoo.com

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Jul 6, 2024, 8:50:36 PM7/6/24
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Totally agree with you, maltagenealogy.

I can't recall the last engagement announcement to compare to this one.

Brooke

bx...@yahoo.com

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Jul 6, 2024, 8:59:44 PM7/6/24
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Lady Violet is the eldest of the Duke's 3 daughters, with Lady Alice (b. 1995) and Lady Eliza (b. 1997)  being the other two.

The sisters have been the subject of several articles, including one in Vanity Fair, about 7 years ago, which seemed to equate them with the Kardashians.

Brooke

malcolm davies

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Jul 7, 2024, 8:12:41 PM7/7/24
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I am a bit surprised that no one mentioned that Lord Garnock's sister Charlotte is Duchess of Noto, having married the Duke of Noto in Palermo in 2021.The Duke of Noto is the son of the Duke of Calabria, one of the claimants to the throne of the Two Sicilies(the other is the Duke of Castro).They have a daughter Francesca born in October 2023.

Shachar Raz

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Jul 8, 2024, 2:48:36 AM7/8/24
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You’ve got to admire these sorts of people for keeping up traditions hundreds of years after losing their thrones

https:/www.maltagenealogy.com/LeighRayment/

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Jul 8, 2024, 3:09:41 AM7/8/24
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Had personally hoped for the Bourbon Sicilies two claimants to have the "heir" to marry the "Heiress". Wasn't the case... Same with the Royal House of Savoy, maybe a marriage between Savoy and Savoy Aosta, which will lead a unification. but I highly doubt it will happen due to the age difference.

malcolm davies

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Jul 8, 2024, 7:34:33 PM7/8/24
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Maltageneology,as I understand it the relations between the Prince of Venice(Emmanuele Filiberto) and the Duke of Aosta(Aimone) are not good.Emmanuel Filiberto has named his daughters as heirs to the House of Savoy which Aimone says is illegitimate.Lurking in the background is the suspicion that all the children of King Umberto II were not his(see for example the Channon Diaries).

https:/www.maltagenealogy.com/LeighRayment/

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Jul 8, 2024, 9:35:36 PM7/8/24
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Yes I believe Umberto was gay or Bisexual.  Interesting though I don't agree that female succession to a throne that has been in pretence since after WW11 can simply change the rules to suit their narrative. I believe after Emmanuele Filiberto should be Aimone as the next successor. Its a similar story with the succession changes with the Bourbon Sicilies Castro claimant.. Its simply wrong to change rules, when there are many male heirs in the family.

pyvery

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Jul 9, 2024, 5:22:46 AM7/9/24
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The last time duke's daughter married Earl's heir was I think a sister of the current Duke of Roxburghe marrying the heir of the Earl of verulam

Richard R

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Jul 10, 2024, 12:27:49 AM7/10/24
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From the Telegraph of 10 July 2024: Viscount Garnock and Lady Violet Manners - The engagement is announced between William, elder son of the Earl and Countess of Lindsay, of Lahill, Fife, and Violet, eldest daughter of the Duke and Duchess of Rutland, of Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire.

bx...@yahoo.com

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Jul 10, 2024, 6:53:08 AM7/10/24
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Interesting that William is not referred to by his courtesy titles in this announcement, nor is Violet referred to as "Lady Violet."

Brooke

S. S.

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Jul 10, 2024, 10:52:49 AM7/10/24
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Isn't it clear from the heading through in The Telegraph?

S.S.

bx...@yahoo.com

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Jul 10, 2024, 1:47:39 PM7/10/24
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S.S., you're right.  I just read the "announcement"  and not the "headline."

Brooke

colinp

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Jan 13, 2025, 1:22:54 PM1/13/25
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Lord Garnock and Lady Violet Manners plan to marry on 21 June 2025 - weddingpresentco.com (thx jip at nobiliana.de)

Isabelle Maltais

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Feb 5, 2025, 5:29:34 PM2/5/25
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They will  marry at Belvoir Castle.

Patricia Light

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Jun 21, 2025, 1:20:37 PM6/21/25
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bx...@yahoo.com

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Jun 21, 2025, 2:04:57 PM6/21/25
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Thanks for the link, Patricia.

Lovely photos.

Brooke

Patricia Light

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Jun 22, 2025, 9:14:42 AM6/22/25
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Robert Jewell

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Jun 23, 2025, 9:16:12 AM6/23/25
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Actually married at the Church of St Mary the Virgin in Bottesford, about 5 miles from the castle.
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