1809 Death in London of Hans Moritz Graf von Brühl

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Feb 15, 2025, 11:47:46 AMFeb 15
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Wikipedia gives his dates as 20 December 1736-9 June 1809.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Moritz_von_Brühl

However, since the death was in the February 1809 Gentleman's Magazine, it seems unlikely that he died in June 1809:

"At his house in Old Burlington-street, aged 72, his Excellency Count de Bruhl, many years minister from the Elector of Saxony to his Britannic Majesty, knight of the White Eagle, etc. He was deeply versed in science; and his learning as great as his family was illustrious."

Gentleman's Magazine February 1809, page 186.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015027527442&seq=312


Does anyone have any sources confirming his date of death?

His connection to the British Peerage is that his first wife was Hon. Alicia Maria Carpenter, Dowager Countess of Egremont. Their daughter married the 6th Lord Polwarth.

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Feb 15, 2025, 12:56:28 PMFeb 15
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The 9 June 1809 death date appears in the DNB; see page 141 here:

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_National_Biography/cisJAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1

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Feb 15, 2025, 1:45:10 PMFeb 15
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Andrew Michaels-Reading has sent me the following:

"His will was proved in London on 3 February 1809 so he was evidently dead by that date.  In addition to his widow Mary [his second wife, Mary Chowne [sp?]], the will names a son George Bruhl and daughter, Mrs Scott [later, Lady Polwarth].

"I can find the burial of his widow in 1811, but not a burial for the Count."


So even the GM announcement is wrong, apparently. I read it as 22 February, but should it be 22 January, if his will was proved 3 February?

On Saturday, February 15, 2025 at 10:47:46 AM UTC-6 dpth...@gmail.com wrote:

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Feb 15, 2025, 1:48:53 PMFeb 15
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See my Brühl page for genealogical context:

https://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/gotha/bruhl.html

Chris Pitt Lewis

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Feb 15, 2025, 2:24:25 PMFeb 15
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The Gentleman's Magazine has copied from The Times Tuesday 24 January 1809, where the death is reported on p.4 in almost the same words, but crucially with a precise date:

"DIED.....On Sunday morning, aged 72, at his house in Old Burlington-street, his Excellency Count de Bruhl, many years Minister from the Elector of Saxony to his Britannic Majesty, Knight of the Order of the White Eagle. He was deep in science, and his learning as great as his family was illustrious."

So this gives a death date of 22 January 1809.

The Times' OCR could not cope with his surname, so I did not find it by searching the archive for "Bruhl", but it did turn up by searching "Saxony" in 1809.

He was buried at Harefield, Middlesex 30 January 1809 - the parish register is on Ancestry, London C of E Baptisms Marriages and Burials 1538-1812, and the entry reads "Hans Mauritz, Count de Bruhl, [age] 72 y". Oddly, the entry is not indexed by Ancestry, but can be found by browsing the register.

The new Oxford DNB has a revised entry for him which gives the correct death date and his place of burial.

Chris Pitt Lewis

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Feb 15, 2025, 2:31:53 PMFeb 15
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Thanks very much for that!

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Feb 15, 2025, 2:47:36 PMFeb 15
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I posted this new information in the "Talk" section of the Wikipedia article, but did not try to edit the article itself. Perhaps someone with experience editing those articles would care to try editing it.
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