29th Earl of Crawford

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sven_me...@web.de

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Mar 19, 2023, 7:43:21 AM3/19/23
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http://www.clanlindsaysociety.co.uk/lindsay-news/

He has died at the age of 96. A member of the House of Commons from 1955 to 1974 and a member of the House of Lords from 1975 to 2019. At the end there he was on leave of absence. He last voted there on 24th April 2013.

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Mar 19, 2023, 8:14:11 AM3/19/23
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He sat in the House of Lords as Baron Balniel.  Prior to his leaving that institution in 2019, he was one of only a handful of hereditary peers who had also been created life barons, enabling them to sit in Lords.  (There are a total of 6 who remain (shown by their hereditary titles): 3rd Viscount Chandos, 4th Baron Ponsonby of Shulbrede, 6th Baron Redesdale, 18th Baron Berkeley, 18th Marquess of Lothian and 3rd Viscount Hailsham. The 11th Earl of Selkirk also currently sits in Lords, but he disclaimed the earldom.)

The Earl is succeeded in his hereditary peerages by his elder son, Anthony Robert LINDSAY,  Lord Balniel (b. 1958).  The new Earl is married with 2 sons and 2 daughters.  His elder son, the Master of Lindsay, Alexander Thomas (b. 1991) now becomes heir apparent.  He presumably will take his father's old courtesy title of Lord Balniel.  He is unmarried.

Brooke

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Mar 19, 2023, 9:55:01 AM3/19/23
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Date of death for the Earl is March 18, 2023.

Brooke

BREMENMURRAY

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Mar 19, 2023, 11:39:24 AM3/19/23
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Wikipedia lists Ludovic James Lindsay born 2020 as the new Master of Lindsay

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Mar 19, 2023, 12:43:42 PM3/19/23
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I just checked Debrett's Online.  They have not updated their records, except they are showing a 2018 marriage for the new Lord Balniel, to Allison Lee Corbat. No children are shown.

 I realize that Debrett's wants to be thorough, but sometimes it seems we have more up-to-date information from Wikipedia.

Brooke

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Mar 19, 2023, 12:53:22 PM3/19/23
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At the  clanlindsaysociety.co.uk website, there is an announcement from 2020 of the birth of the Hon. Ludovic James Lindsay on December 11, 2020.

Why Debrett's has not updated its website with such an important birth (the only son of the heir to the heir apparent) from over 2 1/2 years ago is more than puzzling.

Thank you BREMENMURRAY, for posting here.

Brooke

sven_me...@web.de

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Mar 19, 2023, 4:14:41 PM3/19/23
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Yes my mistake it was from 1974, not 75

colinp

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Mar 19, 2023, 5:32:29 PM3/19/23
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The Earl of Crawford and Balcarres was a Privy Councillor (1972), Knight of the Thistle (1996) and GCVO (2002).  He was Lord Chamberlain to Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother 1992-2002


EXTRACTS:

Earl of Crawford and Balcarres, Tory defence minister and last survivor of 1955 Commons intake – obituary

His roles ranged from chairman of the National Association for Mental Health (1963-70) to Lord Chamberlain to the Queen Mother (1992-2002)

The 29th Earl of Crawford and 12th Earl of Balcarres, Premier Earl of Scotland and head of the House of Lindsay, who has died aged 96, was a liberal Tory who made a rich contribution to the Commons (as Lord Balniel), Edward Heath’s government, the Lords, the Royal Household, the boardroom and the fields of conservation and mental health.

He was also the last surviving member of the House elected in 1955.

His oldest Scottish title – Lord Lindsay of Crawford – predates 1143, but he owed his right to sit in the Lords, until Tony Blair’s cull of hereditaries, to the English Barony of Wigan. His father, the 28th and 11th Earl, had to sell Haigh Hall, near Wigan, because of “penal taxation”; Crawford himself lived in Fife and Hampstead.

Until he succeeded his father in 1975, Lord Balniel was a career politician. Highly rated as a minister, he was unlucky not to have served in Heath’s Cabinet. Helped in securing his seat at Hertford by his uncle Lord Salisbury being the constituency chairman, he held it at five elections despite an influx of Labour-voting new-town tenants….

Defeated in 1974, he accepted a life peerage as Lord Balniel and joined the Opposition front bench in the Lords. But within a year his father died, and he left active politics. He went on to chair, in turn, the Historic Buildings Council for Scotland, the Royal Commission on Ancient and Historical Monuments of Scotland and the National Library of Scotland.

A dancing partner of Princess Margaret in his youth, who rode in the third Royal carriage at Ascot, Crawford also became First Crown Estate Commissioner, then Lord Chamberlain to the Queen Mother for the final decade of her life. He engineered the removal of her Treasurer, Sir Ralph Anstruther, who had long been incapable of performing his duties.

Robert Alexander Lindsay (always known in the family as Robin) was born in London on March 5 1927, the elder son of the 28th and 11th Earl and the former Mary Cavendish. Educated at Eton and Trinity College, Cambridge, he served with the Grenadier Guards from 1945 to 1949, mainly in the Middle East. After a spell at the British Embassy in Paris, he joined the Conservative Research Department in 1952….

On the Balcarres estate, in the mid-1960s he oversaw the construction, to the designs of the Modernist architect Trevor Dannatt, of Pitcorthie House. His wife transformed the gardens. He became a keen collector of contemporary art and developed an interest in antiquarian books, buying the poet Hugh MacDiarmid’s personal collection.

In 1988, furious that Manchester University planned to sell a manuscript collection donated by the 26th Earl in 1900, he offered to loan them his own Audubon’s Birds of America if they sold their copy instead of the Crawford collection. When they refused, he removed 40,000 of his books from the university.

Crawford was created a Knight of the Thistle in 1996, and appointed GCVO in 2002. For 27 years he was Deputy Lieutenant for Fife.

He married, in 1949, Ruth Meyer of Zurich; she died in 2021. They had two sons and two daughters. He is succeeded as 30th and 13th Earl by his elder son, Lord Balniel, born in 1958.

The 29th Earl of Crawford and 12th Earl of Balcarres, born March 5 1927, died March 18 2023

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Mar 19, 2023, 5:59:55 PM3/19/23
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According to unterstein.net (last updated Nov. 2022), there were only 6 hereditary peers older than the late Earl before he died:  Saye and Sele (b. 1920), Elgin (b. 1924), Walsingham (b. 1925) and 3 born in 1926, Ailesbury, Airlie and Knutsford.

Brooke

Richard R

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Mar 20, 2023, 6:13:33 AM3/20/23
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Obit in the Times of 20 March 2023:
E X T R A C T

Earl of Crawford and Balcarres obituary

Empathetic Conservative MP who became a minister under Edward Heath and later served as lord chamberlain to the Queen Mother

… Balniel served nearly 20 years as an MP, entering parliament when Anthony Eden’s Conservatives won the 1955 general election. He rose to become a defence and foreign office minister under Edward Heath, and after the death of Lord Eden of Winton in 2020 he became the earliest elected living former MP.

In 1975, after his father’s death, he became the 29th Earl of Crawford (Scotland’s premier earldom dating back to 1398), the 12th Earl of Balcarres and chief of Clan Lindsay. Thereafter he served as first commissioner of the Crown Estate, managing Britain’s largest property portfolio, from 1980 to 1985, and as lord chamberlain to Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, from 1992 until her death in 2002, upon which he was appointed GCVO. He marched in her funeral cortège alongside the royal family, most of whom were lifelong friends including the Queen, and he broke his ceremonial wand over the Queen Mother’s coffin during her private interment in the King George VI Memorial Chapel in Windsor Castle…

… He was the third successive Earl of Crawford to be appointed a Knight of the Thistle, Scotland’s highest order of chivalry, but for all his distinguished lineage he was a modest, empathetic man who disliked pomp and had few airs and graces…

… Robert Alexander Lindsay, known to his friends and family as Robin, was born in Marylebone, London, in 1927. His father, David, had served as an MP, and his paternal grandfather had sat in the First World War coalition cabinets of David Lloyd George and Herbert Asquith. His mother, Mary (née Cavendish), was a niece of the Duke of Devonshire. Raised as Lord Balniel, a title his father “lent” him…

… He met Ruth Meyer-Bechtler at an art history summer school in Perugia, Italy. They married in her native Switzerland in 1949 and went on to have four children: Bettina, a teacher; Iona, an art historian; Anthony, an investment manager who now becomes the 30th Earl of Crawford; and Alexander, a documentary film-maker and photographer. The Countess of Crawford died in 2021 after 71 years of marriage…

… He was instead created a life peer as Baron Balniel and for a year, most unusually, he sat alongside his father in the House of Lords until the latter’s death…

… working pro bono for the Crown Estate, the Queen Mother’s household and other worthy causes. He once described his public life as “one long list of chairing meetings”, though he regarded working for the Queen Mother, whom he had known since childhood, as “an honour and nothing but a pleasure”…

Robert Lindsay, 29th Earl of Crawford and 12th Earl of Balcarres KT, GCVO, Conservative politician, was born on March 5, 1927. He died on March 18, 2023, aged 96

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/earl-of-crawford-and-balcarres-obituary-6pppttvfx

Jonathan

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Mar 20, 2023, 6:49:59 AM3/20/23
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On Sunday, 19 March 2023 at 12:14:11 UTC bx...@yahoo.com wrote:
He sat in the House of Lords as Baron Balniel.  Prior to his leaving that institution in 2019, he was one of only a handful of hereditary peers who had also been created life barons, enabling them to sit in Lords.  (There are a total of 6 who remain (shown by their hereditary titles): 3rd Viscount Chandos, 4th Baron Ponsonby of Shulbrede, 6th Baron Redesdale, 18th Baron Berkeley, 18th Marquess of Lothian and 3rd Viscount Hailsham. The 11th Earl of Selkirk also currently sits in Lords, but he disclaimed the earldom.)

 Unlike the six peers listed above, Lord Crawford was created a life peer before he succeeded to his hereditary titles, and long before the House of Lords Act 1999. Was he the only person to be in this position? The Earl of Longford had sat alongside his father but as a hereditary peer (Lord Pakenham) and the Marquess of Salisbury did so but by writ of acceleration. Both only became life peers post-1999. Were there any others with life peerages pre-1999?

Also to be pedantic (and why not, this is a peerage discussion group) the Telegraph's obit is incorrect to say, "he owed his right to sit in the Lords, until Tony Blair’s cull of hereditaries, to the English Barony of Wigan." Putting aside the fact he was a life peer, following the Peerages Act 1963, his Scottish titles were sufficient for a seat in the Lords.

Observer

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Mar 20, 2023, 7:17:45 AM3/20/23
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The Telegraph obituary is indeed wrong, as Jonathan says, in attributing Lord Crawford's seat in the House of Lords to the Wigan barony when first the life peerage and later the inheritance of the Scottish titles sufficed. The obituary is, furthermore, wrong in describing the Wigan title as an "English Barony" when it is a UK peerage (of 1826) rather than a title in the Peerage of England.

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Mar 20, 2023, 7:59:09 AM3/20/23
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Jonathan,  George Younger was created a life baron (Younger of Prestwick) in 1992.  He succeeded as the 4th Viscount Younger of Leckie in 1997.

Brooke

David Beamish

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Mar 20, 2023, 1:47:45 PM3/20/23
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Another creation which may be of interest was that of Baroness Ravensdale of Kedleston, created a life peer in 1958 before the Peerage Act 1963 qualified her for a seat as Baroness Ravensdale, a title to which she had succeeded in 1925.

BREMENMURRAY

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Mar 21, 2023, 5:31:58 AM3/21/23
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It seems Debretts relies on individual families to notify them of changes

bx...@yahoo.com

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Mar 21, 2023, 7:20:48 AM3/21/23
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I  wish Debrett's would be a little more proactive, and maybe do some internet searching (like we do) for major events (i.e., births , marriages and deaths involving peers, heirs apparent/presumptive and their children).

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Mar 21, 2023, 10:41:43 AM3/21/23
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Debrett's Online has now updated its Crawford and Balcarres page to show the new Earl and his family.

The heir apparent, Lord Balniel, is shown with his son and heir, the Master of Lindsay (the  Hon. Ludovic James), b 2020.

Brooke

BREMENMURRAY

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Mar 21, 2023, 1:13:08 PM3/21/23
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Possibly using this website as a prompt?

malcolm davies

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Mar 21, 2023, 5:38:10 PM3/21/23
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Brooke,
             They used to be more proactive-see Cyril Hankinson's book My Forty Years with Debrett 1963 which can be found at Abebooks if your interested.Incidentally did you find a copy of Brian Masters book The Dukes?
  Another useful book is L G Pine The Story of the Peerage 1956.

colinp

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Mar 21, 2023, 5:59:29 PM3/21/23
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From the Daily Telegraph 21 March 2022 - CRAWFORD Robert Alexander (Robin), Earl of Crawford and Balcarres KT, GCVO, PC, Chief of Clan Lindsay, died peacefully at home on 18th March 2023 aged 96.  Greatly loved by all his family; husband of Ruth for 71 years, father of Bettina, Iona, Anthony and Alexander, grandfather to 13, great-grandfather to 10.  Funeral private.  Details of memorial service to be announced later.  Donations if desired may be made to the National Library of Scotland at www.nls.uk/support-nls

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Mar 21, 2023, 6:45:02 PM3/21/23
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malcolm,  yes, I definitely think you're right.

Frankly, there's little excuse for it, in modern times with the Internet. If "regular" people like some of those in our group can find things out online, why can't they?  I can understand if they do find something, to want to maybe confirm the information with the family, but still, it's really disappointing that information is posted by them at such a snail's pace.

Brooke

colinp

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Jul 2, 2023, 9:12:50 AM7/2/23
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The 30th Earl of Crawford and Balcarres is now entered on the Roll of the Peerage.  He is also entered on the Roll as Baron Balniel in the Peerage of Scotland (presumably should be Lord Lindsay and Balniel??) and Baron Wigan in the Peerage of the United Kingdom

S. S.

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Jul 2, 2023, 10:57:28 AM7/2/23
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"Baron Balniel" is probably an error.

S.S.

S. S.

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Jul 2, 2023, 11:03:19 AM7/2/23
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Apologies, it should be "Balneil" not "Balniel".

The peerage is indeed given as "Lord Lindsay and Balneil" in The Peerage of Scotland (1814) in its appendix: "9th January 1651. Alexander Lindsay, Lord Lindsay of Balcarres. [Created as] Earl of Balcarres, Lord Lindsay and Balneil, by patent dated at Perth to him ejusque haeredibus masculis calliae et provisionis, in ejua infeofamentis expressis seu exprimeudis. Mag. Sig. L. lviii. No 3".

S.S.


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Isabelle Maltais

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Mar 5, 2025, 6:58:56 AM3/5/25
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Hello,  Did Ludovic James, master of Lindsay have any siblings?


Thank you in advance,
Isabelle.



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Mar 5, 2025, 7:06:52 AM3/5/25
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No siblings shown on DPB Online.

Brooke

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