GREENOCK / MALCOLM engagement

[Richard R]

From the Telegraph of 1 November 2014: Lord Greenock and Miss C.P. Malcolm - The engagement is announced between George, only son of Earl and Countess Cathcart, of Gateley, Norfolk, and Camilla (Willa), only daughter of Sir Alexander and Lady Malcolm, of Brinecombe, Somerset.

Alan George CATHCART, Lord Greenock (b 1986) only s & ha of the 7th Earl CATCHCART (b 1952) and Vivien Clare (b 1954 reg Q4 Norfolk) d of Francis Desmond McInnes SKINNER of Snetterton, Norfolk and Barbara RAMSDEN.

Camilla (Willa) Petronel (b 1987) d of Sir Alexander James Elton MALCOLM OBE 13th Bt (b 1956) and Virginia Elizabeth d of Capt Alfred COXON RN.

Debrett's list only one other legitimate heir for the earldom besides Lord Greenock: Daniel Edward CATHCART (b 1974), he has 2 sons born out of wedlock.

[marquess]

It would be interesting if Daniel were to marry the mother of his children, this would place them in line for the Scottish peerages.

[marquess]

Has this marriage taken place, I can find no record of it?

[G. Willis]

According to his Who's Who online entry - http://www.ukwhoswho.com/view/10.1093/ww/9780199540884.001.0001/ww-9780199540884-e-18081 - they were married in 2015.

[Henry W]

GRO indices show a daughter born to this couple: Hon R A C CATHCART, b Q3 2020 Norfolk.

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Debrett's Online DB shows they married in 2015, but does not list any children for them.

[S R Eglesfield]

Per company records, Francis Desmond McINNES SKINNER was born on 18 June 1925 (N.B. the compound surname seems to have been adopted since his birth, and is sometimes given with, and sometimes without, a hyphen between the two names). He was married in 1952 (registered Q3 - King's Lynn) to Rosemary S RAMSDEN.

Mr McInnes Skinner's parents were Major James Hay McInnes SKINNER (c.1892 - 1962) and his wife (marriage registered in St Giles, Scotland, in 1920), Phyllis Barbara FRANCIS (29 VI 1899 - 18 XII 1985). His sister, Celia McInnes SKINNER (1922 - 2 I 2011) was married, firstly, in 1945, to Roderick Christopher MUSGRAVE (1914 - 22 VII 1946), by whom she had one daughter, Melanie Pensée FitzHerbert MUSGRAVE (born 1946), who was married on 14 February 1969 to (as his first wife; divorced 1975) Col Sir Charles Douglas LOWTHER, 6th Bt (22 I 1946 - 2 X 2018). Mrs Musgrave was married, secondly, on 2 June 1955, to Lt Col John Sholto Henry ("Jock") DOUGLAS, OBE (16 VI 1903 - 15 X 1960), a great-grandson of the 17th Earl of Morton.

[Patricia Light]

According to DPB online Lord Greenock's daughter is named Hon Rosanna Alice Cathcart and she was born in 2020 as indicated by Henry W.

On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 23:49:09 UTC+1 bx...@yahoo.com wrote: