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[Shinjinee]

have appeared after a long time. To summarize
1. Sir Desmond de Silva QC appears to have split from his wife
Princess Katharina of Yugoslavia. They have a daughter Victoria
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169739/Love-split-takes-shine-De-Silva.html

2. The new 12th Earl of Harrington (father of Viscountess Linley or
Lady Serena Linley) finds his fortune has substantially decreased in
value

3. One marriage that we missed - 75 year old Viscount Gage has
remarried last week. His new bride is the former Alexandra Templeton,
aged 37, and she is expecting their child. She is a university
lecturer in Art, and the granddaughter of a knight (which one?). Gage
divorced his first wife Lady Diana Beatty, mother of his two sons
Henry (33) and Ben (31).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1170085/Oh-Lord-I-father-75.html

Shinjinee

[Richard R]

I can't place the new Lady Gage with a knightly grandfather. She could
be Kathryn ALEXANDRA Joan b 14 Oct 1971 dau of Michael (a director at
Schroder Investment Management and son of Geoffrey TEMPLEMAN CBE (d
1988) & Dorothy May HEATHCOTE (d 1996)) and his wife Jane Margaret
Willmer dau of Capt John Kenneth LEE (ie neither grandfather was a
knight).

On May 10, 5:52 pm, Shinjinee <SSenpub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> have appeared after a long time. To summarize
> 1. Sir Desmond de Silva QC appears to have split from his wife

> Princess Katharina of Yugoslavia. They have a daughter Victoriahttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169739/Love-split-takes-shin...

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Wow! 75 and he'll be a dad again?!

I guess this gives hope to all of the peerages with elderly peers and
no heirs. Maybe we shouldn't be so quick to write off the Kitchener
of Khartoum earldom. He's only 90!

Brooke

On May 10, 12:52�pm, Shinjinee <SSenpub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> have appeared after a long time. To summarize
> 1. Sir Desmond de Silva QC appears to have split from his wife

> Princess Katharina of Yugoslavia. They have a daughter Victoriahttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169739/Love-split-takes-shin...

[rick.l...@virgin.net]

Shinjinee wrote:

>She is a university lecturer in Art, and the granddaughter of a knight (which one?).

Might it be Sir John Templeton 1912-2008 businessman and
philanthropist

Richard L

[Shinjinee]

Sorry, her name is TEMPLETON, according to the article.

Shinjinee

[Shinjinee]

LOL! OTOH, he was married before, and fathered two sons. i.e. he had
a proven track record.

Shinjinee

[Richard R]

Many thanks Shinjinee! I'll try to take care when reading articles in
future.

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[Richard R]

You may recall Sir John Templeton's death was recorded in an earlier
posting:
http://groups.google.com/group/Peerage-News/browse_thread/thread/41e5218b18a493bd/24b42a760c4dfe19?lnk=gst&q=sir+john+templeton#

There's a link to a Telegraph obit which states his two sons (John
Marks b 1939 & Christopher Winston b 1947) survived him but his only
dau (Anne Dudley, later Mrs Zimmerman) died before him. I've no info
on the marriages or issue, if any, of the two sons.

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[Richard R]

I've now thought to check Who's Who and the eldest son is in there.
He's married in 1970 and has two daus (unnamed). So I suppose one of
his daus, if born within a year of the marriage, could be our lady? A
grand-dau of a knight?

On May 13, 10:02 pm, Richard R <r_rut...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> You may recall Sir John Templeton's death was recorded in an earlier

> posting:http://groups.google.com/group/Peerage-News/browse_thread/thread/41e5...

[Richard R]

I was speaking to a friend about this lady and he knows one of her
'friends' who says he's surprised she's claiming to be 37! (Of course
it's not unknown for a lady to be 'inexact' when referring to her
age). With this in mind I note there's a birth registered in the
December quarter of 1968 (St Pancras) for an Alexandra Murray
Templeton (mother's maiden name Beamson) - could this be our gal? Will
be 41 this winter?

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
Name: Alexandra Murray Templeton
Mother's Maiden Surname: Beamson
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1968
Registration district: St Pancras
Registration county: Middlesex
Volume Number: 5e
Page Number: 1374

[rick.l...@virgin.net]

Are you both saying that Sir John Templeton is the chap you were
referring to? I did mention him earlier but no-one seems to have
acknowledged the fact. If you could see me now, I'm pouting! :)

Richard L

[Richard R]

I'm saying if she's one of the two daus. born to Sir John Templeton's
eldest son (see above) then, yes, Sir John T is the chap.

I'm saying if she's actually older than 37, then she may be the
Alexandra T born in 1968 (ie now aged 40), and I'm not sure if that
person has any connection with Sir John T

[Shinjinee]

Good hunting so far, but until we have further details, we can't say
if she is the granddaughter of Sir John Templeton or the other lady
discovered.

On May 15, 1:16 am, Richard R <r_rut...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm saying if she's one of the two daus. born to Sir John Templeton's
> eldest son (see above) then, yes, Sir John T is the chap.
>
> I'm saying if she's actually older than 37, then she may be the
> Alexandra T born in 1968 (ie now aged 40), and I'm not sure if that
> person has any connection with Sir John T

And no need to pout, Richard R! We're impressed by your sleuthing. It
is just that we have no further information to say yes or no.

Shinjinee

[Shinjinee]

Sorry, no need to pout Richard L. (Should read more carefully,
myself)!

Shinjinee

[rick.l...@virgin.net]

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[rick.l...@virgin.net]

Ha Ha !

Am now assuaged!

Richard L

[Richard R]

I'm now absolutely certain that the new Lady Gage and the woman in my
earlier posting (born 1968) are one and the same person. So, if
there's been creative journalism about her age, maybe there's there's
the same as to her knightly origins?

[Shinjinee]

I was looking for something else, and it seems your friend is right.  Lady Gage was formerly
Alexandra Murray Templeton (although most news reports drop the middle name) and is/was
a university lecturer at the time of her marriage.  And one news report acknowledged she was 40 at the time of the wedding in April 2009, and nearly 41 by the time her son was born.  No idea if she was married
previously or not.

Shinjinee

[Shinjinee]

For example Wikipedia gives her date of birth as 1969 (according to your records she was born in December 1968).
"They were divorced in 2004. He married Alexandra Murray Templeton (born 1969);^[5] they have a son John Valentine.^[6]"

http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/index438.htm
this gives the date of the marriage, but not the year of the divorce from his 1st wife (1974 according to some sources) and simply calls her Alexandra Templeton (no year of birth or parentage details)

http://sussex.greatbritishlife.co.uk/article/lord-gages-first-sale-and-public-exhibition-of-paintings--firle-place-nr-lewes-20067/
This article (circa 2010) says his wife is 38 (!) and that he divorced more than 8 years ago (circa 2002 then, not 2004).
"Lord Gage is bouncier than when we last met eight years ago. Then, divorced from his first wife, he cut a slightly forlorn air. But now, recently married to Alexandra Templeton, 38, a senior fine art lecturer at the University of Brighton, and with a bonny seven-month-old son called John Valentine in tow, he is full of joie de vivre and eager to show off his latest work."

Just to show that we shouldn't trust published news reports, I guess.

Shinjinee