Caspian Richard Cornwall-Legh

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Turenne

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Feb 12, 2008, 11:30:40 AM2/12/08
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A son, Caspian Richard was born on the 6th February to the Hon Richard
Stephen Cayley Cornwall-Legh, eldest son of the 6th Baron and Lady
Grey of Codnor, and Annie Riches, third daughter of Mr and Mrs Fred
Riches.

Richard Lichten

bx...@yahoo.com

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Feb 12, 2008, 3:57:11 PM2/12/08
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Great news!!! An heir to the heir for this ancient barony (dating
back to 1397)!!!

I was disappointed at first because the post seems to indicate the
couple was not married. However, I did consult my trusty Debrett's
2008 and found out the couple wed in 2005.

Although the peerage dates back over 600 years, there have only been 6
titleholders as the barony was in abeyance for almost 400 years. It
looks like the title in safe for another generation!!

Brooke

Phoen

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Feb 12, 2008, 4:42:45 PM2/12/08
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Actually there were nine holders - but after the termination of the
abeyance in 1989, the precedence of the barony was set of 1397,
instead of 1299, with Richard Grey (died 1418) as first incumbent. His
ancestors were:

- Henry Grey, 1st Baron Grey of Codnor (died 1309)
- Richard Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Codnor (c. 1282–1335)
- John Grey, 3rd Baron Grey of Codnor (1305–c. 1393)

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Phoen

Turenne

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Feb 12, 2008, 5:14:18 PM2/12/08
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Brooke wrote:

>I was disappointed at first because the post seems to indicate the couple was not married.

Sorry Brooke, I should have made my post clearer.

Lord Grey lives very close to me. The trouble, money and time that he
went to so that he could bring the barony out of abeyance would make a
very interesting subject for a book.

Richard

marquess

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Feb 12, 2008, 7:10:34 PM2/12/08
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You mean the previous baron? Anyway it is not a matter of it being
safe for another generation, as there are copious collaterals and
going through the female line gives it extra starying power. Does
anyone know the family acerage?

Turenne

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Feb 13, 2008, 3:35:55 AM2/13/08
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On 13 Feb, 00:10, marquess <marquessmarqu...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> You mean the previous baron? Anyway it is not a matter of it being
> safe for another generation, as there are copious collaterals and
> going through the female line gives it extra starying power. Does
> anyone know the family acerage?
>

Yes, the previous baron.

There doesn't look much to his Cheshire property which is more of a
country house than a stately home. I'm fairly sure that much of the
land in the vicinity is owned by the Brooke family. I'll find out what
I can.

Richard L

Richard R

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Feb 13, 2008, 4:17:22 AM2/13/08
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The trouble, money and time that went into bringing
the barony out of abeyance would make a
very interesting subject for a book.

I don't have Debrett's to hand but I think a previous edition
published a special article on the Grey of Codnor case, authored by
one of the heralds. I think it was the 2000 edition, but not
absolutely sure.

I see Debrett's make reference to the numbering of the title holders,
referring to CP vol VIII, where the earlier holders are included in
the enumeration.

Richard R

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Feb 13, 2008, 4:52:54 AM2/13/08
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Sorry, I meant CP vol VII

marquess

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Feb 13, 2008, 6:03:42 AM2/13/08
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I think that was in the 95 edition, or the 90 one, I recall Charles
Kidd drawing my attention to an article about the Baron and his
struggles to get the thing called out of abeyance and that was in 89,
so I think that it might be the 90 Edition for sure. The curious thing
about was that he started out in the 20's before that ruling on the
hundred year limitation.
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Richard R

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Feb 13, 2008, 12:22:37 PM2/13/08
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Yes Marquess, I've now checked. It was the 1995 - the one with the
article on marquesses!
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Michael Rhodes

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Feb 19, 2008, 8:12:49 PM2/19/08
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Annie Helen Cornwall-Legh (née Riches), wife of the Hon. Richard
Stephen Cayley Cornwall-Legh (b. 24 March, 1976), gave birth to a son,
Caspian Richard, 6 Feb 2008. Richard is the eldest son of the 6th
Baron Grey of Codnor and Baroness Grey of
Codnor, of High Legh, Cheshire, and Annie is the third daughter
of Mr and Mrs Frederick Riches, of Banbury, Oxfordshire. Richard's
father is only the 6th Baron Grey of Codnor even though the peerage
of
England was created in 1397. The title was abeyant between 1496 and
1989.


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