Queensberry marriages and succession

[Shinjinee]

In reading about the death of the 12th Marquess's brother in law, I
checked on the collateral heirs.

The 11th Marquess had one daughter by his 1st marriage, one son (the
12th Marquess) and one daughter (Lady Jane) by his second marriage,
and one son by his 3rd marriage 1947.

His elder son the 13th Marquess has been thrice married, and has two
daughters by his first marriage, three sons and one daughter by his
second wife, and one daughter (born outside wedlock and legitimated)
by his third wife. Plus an eldest son born outside wedlock whose
mother he never married. Ambrose Carey is married and has two sons,
but cannot inherit the marquisate. His next brother Viscount
Drumlanrig was born outside wedlock while his father was still married
to another woman, but interestingly legitimated in 1969, contrary to
previous Scottish law, He is not yet married, nor are his two younger
brothers. A Berkeley-like situation? If none of them marry, the
eventual heir will be their half-uncle Lord Gawain Douglas or his only
son Jamie Sholto Douglas (b. 1975). Lord Gawain also has five
daughters.

The next heir appears to be one Douglas Bruce Georges Douglas, b.29
Jan 1926, who is the elder surviving son of Lord Sholto Douglas's
second but elder surviving son Sholto Douglas (1900-1950). The younger
son also appears to be unmarried. This son, also philoprogenitive,
had no less than eleven children - six sons and five daughters. Three
sons died unmarried (two relatively young) and only the third son
married and had a daughter before his death in 2007.

Currently, there isn't reason to despair, but if the three sons of the
present Marquess fail to marry, the family may have cause to worry.
Sons (younger sons) appear to marry late if at all, and then produce
mostly daughters.

1. Sholto Francis Guy Douglas, Viscount Drumlanrig, b.1 Jun 1967
2.Lord Milo Luke Dickon Douglas, b.6 Apr 1975
3.Lord Torquil Oberon Tobias Douglas, b.2 Nov 1978
4. Lord Gawain Archibald Francis Douglas, b.23 May 1948, md and has
issue 1 son and 5 daus
6. Jamie Sholto Douglas, b.1975
[grandsons of Lord Sholto Douglas, 4th son of 9th Marquess]
7. Douglas Bruce Georges Douglas, b.29 Jan 1926
8. Noel Douglas, b.27 Dec 1939

Are there heirs in remainder from collateral lines?

Shinjinee

[Richard R]

Certainly are heirs among the collaterals! Here's the full list as I
see it (from Debretts 2008, note Jamie Sholto Douglas is 5th not 6th
in line, which changes your 7 & 8 numbers to 6 & 7). Let the sons do
their worst, there's no cause to worry over this title's survival!
This list covers descendants of the marquesses but the remainder is to
heirs male whatsoever - so who knows how many descendants are lurking
among earlier ancestors of the 1st Marquess!

Sons of the present Marquess:
1 SHOLTO FRANCIS GUY DOUGLAS (Viscount Drumlanrig) b 1 June 1967
2 Lord Milo Luke Dickon Douglas b 1975
3 Lord Torquil Oberon Tobias Douglas b 1978

Half-brother of the present Marquess (& his son):
4 Lord Gawain Archibald Francis Douglas b 1948
5 Jamie Sholto Douglas b 1975

Descendants of Lord Sholto George Douglas, 4th son of 9th Marquess:
6 Douglas Bruce Georges Douglas b 1926
7 Noel Douglas b 1939

Descendants of Henry Alexander Douglas, brother of 6th and 7th
Marquesses:
8 Archibald Sholto Gordon Douglas b 1937
9 Ian Andrew McClelland Douglas b 1939
10 Andrew James Sholto Douglas b 1973
11 Gavin James Douglas b 1926
12 Edward John Douglas b 1952
13 Andrew Benedict Douglas b 1957
14 Gavin Gerard Douglas b 1958
15 Matthew Liam Douglas b 1987
16 Benjamin James Douglas b 1988
17 Nicholas Edward Douglas b 1990
18 William Gavin Douglas b 1994
19 Christopher James Douglas b 1962
20 Andrew Brice Douglas b 1931
21 Rev Sholto Francis Douglas b 1958
22 David James Douglas b 1960
23 James Francis Emerson Douglas b 1998
24 William Brice Douglas b 2003
25 Maxwell Richard Douglas b 1966
26 Andrew Brice Christopher Douglas b 1968
27 Joseph Andrew Douglas b 2003
28 Alexander Michael Douglas b 1926
29 Henry Alexander Michael Douglas b 1955
30 Eric Michael Douglas b 1987
31 Joseph Henry Douglas b 1988
32 Richard John Douglas b 1957
33 Alexander Rodney Douglas b 1958
34 Alexander Conrad Jeremy Douglas b 1986
35 John Mackney Douglas b 1989
36 Andrew Beirne Douglas b 1960
37 James Beirne Douglas b1990
38 James Patrick Douglas b 1965
39 Henry John Douglas b 1942
40 Geoffrey Peter Douglas b 1970
41 Ian Andrew Douglas b 1971
42 Robert John Douglas b 1950
43 James Robert Douglas b 1986
44 Sholto James Shaw Douglas b 1962
45 Robert Horton Douglas b 1970
46 William John Archibald Douglas b 1975
47 Francis Maxwell Douglas b 1946
48 James Baldvin Douglas b 1974
49 Sholto Francis Alexandre Douglas b 1996
50 Alexandre Louis James Douglas b 1998
51 James Sholto Douglas b 1950
52 Francis Sholto Douglas b 1983

Descendants of Lord William Robert Keith Douglas, MP ((who was raised
to the rank of a Marquess's yr son 1837) brother of 6th and 7th
Marquesses:
53 Walter Francis Edward Douglas b 1917
54 Francis Gustave Douglas b 1946
55 Niall Edward Douglas b 1978
56 Mark Gavin Douglas b 1958

[Shinjinee]

On Jan 24, 4:53 pm, Richard R <r_rut...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Certainly are heirs among the collaterals! Here's the full list as I
> see it (from Debretts 2008, note Jamie Sholto Douglas is 5th not 6th

Thanks. That off numbering was a serious typo.

Shinjinee

[Richard R]

Not so serious Shinjinee. At least you got the first seven names
right! I had difficulty finding Noel b 1939 for awhile. His entry is
so small in the collaterals, he could be easily overlooked!