Clare Irby nee Aschan's Guinness ancestry and relatives

[Shinjinee]

The arrest and trial of a "society beauty" Clare Irby has made the
news recently. I looked her up today. She is the stepdaughter of
Paul Irby (not Aschan), nephew of the 9th Baron Boston and cousin of
the 10th Baron (and not the grandson of a baron either). Her thrice-
married mother is Emma Henderson who married firstly a Seymour (of the
marquesses of Hertford) and thirdly Paul Irby, with Clare's father in
the middle. She has issue four children, two each by her second and
third marriages. Clare's father David (not Paul) Aschan is also
thrice married, also with issue four children, two each by his second
wife and third wife Emma. [I don't know if he remarried after his
third divorce in 1981].

I don't know when Clare changed her name from Aschan to Irby, but her
son James Byron Aschan Irby was born 15 December 2006 to Clare and one
Graham (surname ___). Clare was then 27.

She is a third cousin of society notables Rose van Cutsem (nee Astor),
Kate Goldsmith (nee Rothschild) and Alice Rothschild. Her paternal
grandmother was a Guinness.

Her mother Emma has some noble ancestors in the Lowthers, the Barons
Annaly (descent from the 3rd Baron) etc.

The connection to the Earls of Iveagh etc goes back via Clare's
ancestors Mary Alice Guinness (descended from William Lunell Guinness,
5th son of Arthur Guinness and Olivia Whitmore; their 2nd son Arthur
being father of the 1st Bt and grandfather of the 1st Lord Ardilaun
and the 1st Earl of Iveagh) and Howard Rundell Guinness (grandson of
Robert Rundell Guinness,

Richard Guinness -> Arthur Guinness (1725-1803) founder of the better
known branches -> [5th son] William Lunell Guinness (1779-1842) who
helped manage the family brewery before 1839 -> Rev William Newton
Guinness (1811-1894) -> Mary Alice Guinness (d 1949) md 1887 Howard
Rundell Guinness

Richard Guinness -> Samuel Guiness (c 1727-1795) -> Richard Guinness
(1755-1829) -> Robert Rundell Guinness (1789-1857) / Richard Samuel
Guinness (1797-1857) -> [2nd son] Henry Guinness (1829-1893) -> [4th
son] Howard Rundell Guinness (1868-1937) -> Henry Samuel Howard
Guinness (1898-1975) -> [2nd dau] Marit Victoria Guinness (b. 1919) ->
(John Laurence) David Aschan (b. 1943) -> Clare Louise Aschan (b.
1979)

A great uncle Edward Douglas Guinness (or Ned Guinness 1893-1983) was
father of Sir Howard Christian Sheldon Guinness (b 1932) and Sir John
Ralph Sidney Guinness (b 1935).
Another great uncle Sir Arthur Rundell Guinness (1895-1951) was father
of two sons and one daughter
1. James Edward Alexander Rundell Guinness b. 23 Sep 1924, d. 26 Mar
2006 -> father of one son and four daughters by his wife Pauline
Vivien Mander -> his eldest dau is Sabrina Guinness, ex-flame of
Prince Charles, and his third daughter is Anita Patience Guinness (b
1957) widow of Hon Amschel Rothschild and now Mrs James Adair Wigan ->
Anita and Amschel had issue including an elder dau Kate Emma
Rothschild (b 1982) now wife of Ben Goldsmith with issue, and a yr dau
Alice Miranda Rothschild (b 1983) who has been involved with her
married brother in law Zac Goldsmith since 2005 (he recently announced
his separation from his wife of ten years, Sheherazade, mother of
their three children)
2. Pamela Patience Guinness+2 b. 25 Sep 1925 -> Clare Pamela St John
md David Waldorf Astor -> issue incl Rose Astor (b 1979) md 2005 Hugh
van Cutsem, and has issue 1 son (b 2009) and 1 dau
3. Ivan Douglas Rundell Guinness+2 b. 27 Jun 1927, d. 14 Aug 1956 ->
one son

So the Guinness connection and nearest Guinness relatives appears to
be as follows:
Howard Rundell Guinness (1868-1937) -> Henry Samuel Howard Guinness
(1898-1975) -> Marit Victoria Guinness (b 1919) -> (John Laurence)
David Aschan (b 1943) -> [2nd dau] Clare Louise Aschan, now Irby (b
1979)

Howard Rundell Guinness (1868-1937) -> Sir Arthur Rundell Guinness
(1895-1951) -> James Edward Alexander Guinness (1924-2006)/ Pamela
Patience Guinness (b 1925) -> Anita Patience Guinness (b 1957)// Clare
Pamela St John -> Kate Rothschild (b 1982)/ Alice Rothschild (b
1983)/// Rose Astor (b 1979) md 2005 Hugh van Cutsem

The Goldsmith-Rothschild and van Cutsem-Astor marriages and births of
subsequent issue were announced on this group, as was the death of
James Guinness in 2006

Robert Rundell Guinness (1789-1857) / Richard Samuel Guinness
(1797-1857)
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From Richard Samuel Guinness & his wife Katherine Jenkinson, of the
Jenkinson baronets, now ext (collaterals of the Earls of Liverpool)
come the more interesting and notable relatives, albeit more distant
as well.

[1st cousins]
Adelaide Maria Guinness (1844-1916) md 1873 her cousin 1st Earl of
Iveagh/ Claude Hugh Campbell Guinness (1852-1895) ->

[2nd cousins]
2nd Earl of Iveagh (1874-1916) / 1st Baron Moyne (1880-1944) // [1st
cousins of] Grace Zoe Guinness (1893-1978) md 2nd Viscount Daventry -
>

[3rd cousins]
Lady Brigid Guinness// Bryan, 2nd Baron Moyne (1905-1992)/ Grania,
Dowager Marchioness of Normanby (b. 1920)// [2nd cousins of] five
Fitzroy daughters

[4th cousins]
Antonia, Marchioness of Douro, nee Prinzessin von Preussen (b.
1955)/// [2nd cousin of] Jonathan, 3rd Baron Moyne (b. 1930)// [1st
cousin of] Constantine Phipps, Marquess of Normanby (b. 1954)
novelist'// [3rd cousins of] Belinda Mary Musker, ex wife of John
Aspinall and then wife of Stuart Wyndham-Murray-Threipland (now
husband of Claire, formerly Countess of Pembroke & Montgomery)

[5th cousins]
Arthur, Earl of Mornington (b. 1978)//// Hon Catherine Fleetwood-
Hesketh (b. 1951), ex wife of the Earl of March & Wemyss (as Lord
Neidpath)/ Daphne Guinness (b. 1967) socialite/// Alexander Wyndham-
Murray-Threipland who married his step-sister Lady Sophia Herbert, and
has issue.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213443/Society-beauty-drunken-romp-male-plane-passenger-girlfriend-slept-nearby.html

[Clare] Irby is the daughter of Old Etonian banker Paul Aschan, a
scion of the Guinness brewing dynasty. Her late grandfather Robert
Henderson was chairman of private bank Kleinwort Benson.

Here she is
http://www.thepeerage.com/p30167.htm#i301663
Clare Louise Aschan was born in June 1979.1 She is the daughter of
John Laurence David Aschan and Emma Mary Henderson.2

According to this site, her father is David Aschan, not Paul Aschan as
mentioned before

http://www.thepeerage.com/p14640.htm#i146393 [slightly adapted*]
(John Laurence) David Aschan was born on 1 May 1943. He is the son of
Carl Nils Wilhelm Gunnar Aschan [son of a Swedish judge] and his
former wife (div 1963) Marit Victoria Guinness. He married, firstly,
Pennant Elfrida Iremonger, daughter of Thomas Iremonger, on 20
September 1967. He and Pennant Elfrida Iremonger were divorced in
1968. He married, secondly, Penelope Jane Wilson, daughter of Robert
Edward Arnsby Wilson, on 25 June 1970. He and Penelope Jane Wilson
were divorced in 1978, after one son and one daughter. He married,
thirdly, Emma Mary Henderson, daughter of Robert Alistair Henderson
and Bridget Elizabeth Lowther, in 1979. He and Emma Mary Henderson
were divorced in 1981. He had issue two more daughters by his third
wife.
John Laurence David Aschan usually went by his middle name of
David. He was educated at Eton College, Eton, Berkshire, England. He
was a banker. He lived in 2003 at 25 Chelsea Park Gardens, London,
England.

Here is her mother Emma Mary Henderson (b 1950)
http://www.thepeerage.com/p5316.htm#i53159 [adapted**]
Emma Mary Henderson was born on 5 November 1950. She is the daughter
of Robert Alistair Henderson and Bridget Elizabeth Lowther, daughter
of Colonel John George Lowther and Hon. Lilah Charlotte Sarah White,
daughter of Luke White, 3rd Baron Annaly of Annaly and Rathcline and
Hon. Lilah Georgiana Augusta Constance Agar-Ellis, elder daughter of
Henry Agar-Ellis, 3rd Viscount Clifden of Gowran. She married thrice,
having issue by her second and third marriages.
She married, firstly, Hugh Leopold Seymour, son of Leopold Richard
Seymour [of the Marquesses of Hertford] and Sheila Butler, on 6
January 1971. They were divorced in 1978.2 She married, secondly,
(John Laurence) David Aschan, son of Carl Nils Wilhelm Gunnar Aschan
and Marit Victoria Guinness, in 1979. They were divorced in 1981,
having had two daughters (the elder Clare b 1979 apparently uses her
stepfather's name). She married, thirdly, Paul Anthony Irby, eldest
son of Major Hon. Anthony Paul Irby [yr brother of the 9th Baron
Boston] and Countess Marie Apponyi, on 29 January 1982. They have two
sons

Paul Irby is the eldest son of Major Hon. Anthony Paul Irby [yr
brother of the 9th Baron Boston] (1908-1986) by his first wife
Countess Marie Apponyi (d 1952), daughter of Count Anton Apponyi and
Kate Nelke.

The two year old child mentioned appears to be James Byron Aschan Irby
(b 15 December 2006), son of Clare and Graham. I don't know the
father's name.


Birthing Center Assagao Goa India NEWS
Birth Announcement 38/2006. James Byron Aschan Irby, son of Clare and
Graham, born on the 15th of December 2006. Birth Announcement
37/2006 ...
www.birthing-center.com/archive.php?archive...list... - Cached -
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http://www.thepeerage.com/p30166.htm#i301653 [adapted]
Her paternal grandmother is Marit Victoria Guinness who was born on 28
January 1919., the second daughter and co-heiress of Henry Samuel
Howard Guinness [himself the son of Howard Rundell Guinness (himself
eldest son of Henry Guinness and Emmelina Brown) and Mary Alice
Guinness] and his wife Alfhild Holter. She married Carl Nils Wilhelm
Gunnar Aschan, son of Nils Aschan and Baroness Elsa Djurklov, on 21
July 1937. She and Carl Nils Wilhelm Gunnar Aschan were divorced in
1963.



Original source which sparked my interest (along with a more colorful
account today in the Daily Mail):
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6189487/Drunken-socialite-Clare-Irby-stripped-to-her-knickers-and-abused-airline-staff-court-told.html

"Irby's father, Old Etonian banker Paul Aschan, is descended from the
Guinness brewers and her stepfather is the grandson of a baron.
Her late grandfather Robert Henderson was chairman of private bank
Kleinwort Benson. Irby herself was educated at Heathfield School in
Worcestershire."

Changing original sources
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*slightly adapted - meaning that I have removed footnote numbers, and
moved around a little text, and added children with marriages

** adapted - more commentary - e.g. further details of parentage


Shinjinee

[Shinjinee]

On Sep 15, 7:42 am, Shinjinee <ssenpub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The arrest and trial of a "society beauty" Clare Irby has made the
> news recently.  I looked her up today.  She is the stepdaughter of
> Paul Irby (not Aschan), nephew of the 9th Baron Boston and cousin of
> the 10th Baron (and not the grandson of a baron either).  Her thrice-
> married mother is Emma Henderson who married firstly a Seymour (of the
> marquesses of Hertford) and thirdly Paul Irby, with Clare's father in
> the middle. She has issue four children, two each by her second and

> third marriages.  Clare's father David (notPaul) Aschanis also

> thrice married, also with issue four children, two each by his second
> wife and third wife Emma. [I don't know if he remarried after his
> third divorce in 1981].

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213443/Society-beauty-drunke...
>
> [Clare] Irby is the daughter of Old Etonian bankerPaul Aschan, a

> scion of the Guinness brewing dynasty. Her late grandfather Robert
> Henderson was chairman of private bank Kleinwort Benson.

Here her grandfather is called Richard, not Robert, Henderson. Has
her father changed his name to Paul instead of David? Clare is an
estate agent. Interestingly, Clare is unmarried, upper-middle-class
(at least), and there were too many witnesses. The Daily Mail's
coverage of her story is rather more sympathetic (thanks to her
background?) than it is to this kind of thing, usually.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1168127/The-party-Jacobi.html
[7 April 2009]

Nine years ago, she gave a moving reading at the memorial service for
her grandfather, former Kleinwort Benson boss Richard Henderson.
Yesterday, Heathfield-educated Clare Irby, 29, was staying out of the
limelight after being allegedly caught performing a sex act on a
flight from India with the boyfriend of a model asleep in the next
seat.
The estate agent daughter of Old Etonian banker Paul Aschan, a member
of the Guinness family, was holed up in her family's £600,000 Fulham
home.
'Clare is a wreck, she's devastated,' a family member says. 'There was
no sex. The whole thing is untrue. She is not that sort of person.'
Clare, whose parents divorced when she was two, was arrested along
with model Sarah Hannon and her boyfriend, Daniel Melia, at Heathrow.

Shinjinee

[Shinjinee]

Clare's paternal ancestry:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1168201/Im-innocent-claims-Guinness-heiress-quizzed-drunken-jet-romp-models-boyfriend.html

"Her grandmother Marit Guinness Aschan was a noted artist, while her
grandfather Carl Aschan, who died last year aged 102, was a vital
wartime intelligence officer.
He served Britain in his native Sweden during the Second World War,
and in 1945 helped to hunt down some of Hitler's close associates.

And is her mother now divorced? The same article says:

"Miss Irby's mother Emma lives with Miss Irby's younger sister and two
brothers in a semi-detached town house only 200 yards from Clare's
flat."

The article describes Clare Irby as a former stockbroker, now estate
agent, who has her own luxury flat in Fulham West.

Shinjinee

[Shinjinee]

Update on the trial

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213907/Guinness-heiress-accused-mile-high-romp-glasses-wine-flight-home.html

Cleared on a technicality, because she was not drunk when she landed
in Britain, as opposed to during the flight - because the captain had
banned her from drinking further.

"But it took a jury only 45 minutes to clear the 30-year-old of being
drunk on an aircraft because of a legal technicality.
Despite evidence that she was drunk around four hours into the 11-hour
flight, the jury could convict her only if they found she had lost
control of her faculties over British airspace - the last 20 minutes
of the flight as the plane crossed the Channel.
But the jury heard that by the time Miss Irby landed, she had not had
a drink for at least six hours because the captain of the plane had
banned her from drinking.
A not guilty verdict was subsequently returned."

The headline reads: "Guinness heiress accused of mile-high romp is
CLEARED of being drunk on jet"

I don't know if there were other charges, and if Miss Irby is liable
for prosecution in India (because she was flying Kingfisher Airlines,
which is Indian-owned AFAIK).

The aristocracy hasn't been having a good press lately, with the
brother of the current Lord Davies being accused of stealing money
from the family trust to fund his own personal and familial expenses.

Shinjinee

[Shinjinee]

Also, the Daily Mail has finally corrected her father's name to David
Aschan after a string of stories. Wonder why he was called Paul Aschan
for all this while (since April 2009) and David Aschan only now???

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213907/Guinness-heiress-accused-mile-high-romp-glasses-wine-flight-home.html
Miss Irby, of Fulham, West London, is the daughter of Old Etonian
banker David Aschan and is a scion of the Guinness brewing dynasty
through her paternal grandmother Marits Guinness."

But her paternal grandmother was Marit, not Marits, nee Guinness.

Shinjinee