Wedding of the Earl of Burlington

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Mel

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Jul 30, 2007, 12:18:02 PM7/30/07
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Did the wedding of the Earl of Burlington, only son of the 12th Duke
of Devonshire, and Laura Montagu already take place?

I came across this sentence on the website of the art gallery of
Lismore Castle.

"This unusual collaborative exhibition brings together work from the
Devonshire and Rubell Family Collections - pieces from the Devonshire
Collection having been selected by the Rubell Family, while pieces
from the Rubell Collection were selected by William and Laura
Burlington."

http://www.lismorecastlearts.ie/news/news_rubells.html

Did I miss something or was it a very secret wedding?

Turenne

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Jul 30, 2007, 5:43:27 PM7/30/07
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I don't know about the wedding, but would be interested to know why he
hasn't assumed the title Marquess of Hartington.

Richard

marquess

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Jul 30, 2007, 7:25:04 PM7/30/07
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Probably doesn't want to be associated with his father, anyway it
doesn't really matter at the moment, as he has no heirs, and would
really have to have two sons for it to make a difference, I can't see
him having a big family. I think that the Bride had been married
before or something or was the same age as him? I just hope that the
Devonshire estates have all been put in trust for whoever does succeed
to the Dukedom, as it is on a thread in the current branch of the
family. I should hate to see the estates divided up, and being
inherited by a daughter, just like in Galway case.

Michael Rhodes

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Jul 30, 2007, 9:00:40 PM7/30/07
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I've seen no mention of the nuptials in the Press. The bride was born
in 1972, and is the ex-wife of a younger son of the Earl of Sandwich,
and has no children from her 1st union.

M


Shinjinee

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Aug 10, 2007, 1:10:04 AM8/10/07
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Nor have I, not that I have been following it closely. OTOH, Henry
Noel married his Zara van Cutsem quietly and they now have a son (a
great-grandson for the present Earl, a grandson for Viscount Campden
who had the only child!). Was this wedding mentioned anywhere?
(Source Theroff's James VI & I descendant news)

Shinjinee

On Jul 31, 6:00 am, Michael Rhodes <migx73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

Jan Böhme

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Aug 10, 2007, 6:59:53 AM8/10/07
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On 10 Aug, 07:10, Shinjinee <ssen_ro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Nor have I, not that I have been following it closely. OTOH, Henry
> Noel married his Zara van Cutsem quietly and they now have a son (a
> great-grandson for the present Earl, a grandson for Viscount Campden
> who had the only child!). Was this wedding mentioned anywhere?
> (Source Theroff's James VI & I descendant news)

They may of course have married very quielty. (Only one can't really
see why they should.) But can't they instead just think that they have
a firm enough relation to justify calling themselves "William and
Laura Burlington", without being actually married? As far as I can
tell this doesn't in and by itself convey any legal mening whatsoever.
Married or not, it's neither their legal names nor their titles, just
something peers and their heirs might call themselves when they don't
want to rub their title in the face of everybody, but still make it
perfetcly clear exactly who they are, title included.

If the website had read "...by Earl and Countess of Burlington"
instead, this would have had a completely different legal
significance. So maybe there is a reason that it didn't?

Jan Böhme

Michael Rhodes

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Aug 10, 2007, 9:28:01 PM8/10/07
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Aristocratic engagement announcements seem to be far more popular than
marriage announcements. I do believe, from a good source, that the
heir to the Duke of Devonshire has married Laura Roundell...

bx...@yahoo.com

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Aug 11, 2007, 2:24:42 PM8/11/07
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Hopefully, we will get definitive information when the next Debrett's
or Who's Who comes out later this year.

Brooke

On Aug 10, 9:28?pm, Michael Rhodes <migx73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

Tracey Lowndes

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Aug 11, 2007, 6:57:20 PM8/11/07
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Perhaps someone should contact Chatsworth and ask whether the couple
have married, and if so, when and where....

Tracey Lowndes.

Cumberland Sausage

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Aug 11, 2007, 9:38:11 PM8/11/07
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Forgive me for asking but why would such a marriage be such a secret ?

Tracey Lowndes

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Aug 12, 2007, 5:28:55 PM8/12/07
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Replying to my own post....

Mandrake in today's Sunday Telegraph says the couple married secretly
in March and that they held "what amounted to a wedding
reception" (the column's words) at Lismore Castle last night.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?menuId=6128&menuItemId=-1&view=MENUCONTENTFIRST&grid=A1&targetRule=0

marquess

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Aug 12, 2007, 5:48:18 PM8/12/07
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Thanks for that one Tracey, lets hope that they are happy and we see a
couple of Male heirs soon! Twins!

On 12 Aug, 09:28, Tracey Lowndes <t.lown...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Replying to my own post....
>
> Mandrake in today's Sunday Telegraph says the couple married secretly
> in March and that they held "what amounted to a wedding
> reception" (the column's words) at Lismore Castle last night.
>

> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?menuId=6128&menuItemId=...


>
> On 11 Aug, 23:57, Tracey Lowndes <t.lown...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Perhaps someone should contact Chatsworth and ask whether the couple
> > have married, and if so, when and where....
>

> > Tracey Lowndes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Michael Rhodes

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Aug 13, 2007, 8:11:28 PM8/13/07
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> Did I miss something or was it a very secret wedding?

No previous bride of a future Duke of Devonshire has been a divorcee.
Perhaps because of her previous marriage this wedding wasn't quite the
vast society bash it might have been....

She is however, in the Devonshire tradition, a great beauty..

Michael Rhodes

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marquess

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Aug 14, 2007, 1:57:35 AM8/14/07
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I'd rather she were ugly and produced seven sons than beautiful and
produced none!

On 13 Aug, 12:11, Michael Rhodes <migx73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

Cumberland Sausage

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Aug 14, 2007, 6:19:10 AM8/14/07
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You'd rather the Earl fucked one of the cows in the paddock would
you ?

Jan Böhme

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Aug 14, 2007, 7:31:24 AM8/14/07
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On 14 Aug, 12:19, Cumberland Sausage <pleyl...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> You'd rather the Earl fucked one of the cows in the paddock would
> you ?

Well, "marquess" is preoccupied with the continuation of peerages, and
thus with the prodcuction of legitimate heirs. However, I would be
very surprised if the offspring of an intercourse such as the one you
indicated under any circumstances would be considered a legitmate heir
under English, or UK, peerage law.

Started to add top-posting to all your other Usenet sins, BTW?

Jan Böhme

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Jan Böhme

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Aug 14, 2007, 10:14:20 AM8/14/07
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On 14 Aug, 15:31, Cumberland Sausage <pleyl...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> Janie are you trying to fuck with me ?
>
> Are you saying there are no cows amongst the British Peerage. Lol

If you go back to my posting and yours that preceded it, you'll see
that I was limiting myself to stating that there are no cows _in the
paddock_ amongst the British Peerage.

Jan Böhme

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Shinjinee

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Aug 17, 2007, 11:51:41 PM8/17/07
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On Aug 13, 2:28 am, Tracey Lowndes <t.lown...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Replying to my own post....
>
> Mandrake in today's Sunday Telegraph says the couple married secretly
> in March and that they held "what amounted to a wedding
> reception" (the column's words) at Lismore Castle last night.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?menuId=6128&menuItemId=...
Here's the full text
Belated reception

There has never been a Duke of Devonshire who has married a divorcee,
but the Earl of Burlington, "Stoker" Cavendish's heir, has secretly
wed the former model Laura Montagu. Bill Burlington married Laura, who
divorced Orlando Montagu, the Earl of Sandwich's youngest son, in 2002
after a four-year marriage, in a secret ceremony in March.

Last night, somewhat belatedly, the couple held what amounted to a
wedding reception at Lismore Castle, Bill's ancestral home in County
Waterford, Ireland, attended by more than 250 guests.

"It wasn't actually called a reception, though," whispers a guest.
"They wanted it low-key."

Laura, 35, who is the daughter of Richard Roundell, deputy chairman of
Christie's, has worked as a fashion editor at Harper's Bazaar.

Normally I don't copy the full text, but the short article contains
information about the bride's father etc. Probably, the reason is
that she was divorced (and from an earl's younger son), but there
might be several other reasons.

Shinjinee

bx...@yahoo.com

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Aug 19, 2007, 12:52:35 PM8/19/07
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Not bad... the new Countess went from being married to the youngest
son of an Earl to marrying the heir to one of England's grandest
titles...

Let's hope one of the reasons they divorced wasn't her inability to
conceive-- otherwise the Dukedom will end up in a collateral branch of
the family...

Brooke

marquess

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Aug 19, 2007, 8:30:56 PM8/19/07
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Well with three major seats it would nice if there were two of three
sons, then one of the seats might pass to one of them. I forsee that
if the current countess does not do manage to have an heir then, we
could see a splitting up of the family property, the eventual Lord
Cavendish of Furness, already has 20,0000 acres and a good family seat
and only one son. Whom I think has been married recently. The trouble
is that these days with people marry later and men marry women of
their own age say 35+ there is little chance of having a large family,
oh I wish he had married 22 year old!

On 19 Aug, 04:52, "b...@yahoo.com" <b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Not bad... the new Countess went from being married to the youngest
> son of an Earl to marrying the heir to one of England's grandest
> titles...
>
> Let's hope one of the reasons they divorced wasn't her inability to
> conceive-- otherwise the Dukedom will end up in a collateral branch of
> the family...
>
> Brooke
>

> On Aug 17, 11:51?pm, Shinjinee <ssen_ro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 13, 2:28 am, Tracey Lowndes <t.lown...@googlemail.com> wrote:> Replying to my own post....
>
> > > Mandrake in today's Sunday Telegraph says the couple married secretly
> > > in March and that they held "what amounted to a wedding
> > > reception" (the column's words) at Lismore Castle last night.
>
> > >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?menuId=6128&menuItemId=...
>
> > Here's the full text
> > Belated reception
>
> > There has never been a Duke of Devonshire who has married a divorcee,
> > but the Earl of Burlington, "Stoker" Cavendish's heir, has secretly
> > wed the former model Laura Montagu. Bill Burlington married Laura, who
> > divorced Orlando Montagu, the Earl of Sandwich's youngest son, in 2002
> > after a four-year marriage, in a secret ceremony in March.
>
> > Last night, somewhat belatedly, the couple held what amounted to a
> > wedding reception at Lismore Castle, Bill's ancestral home in County
> > Waterford, Ireland, attended by more than 250 guests.
>
> > "It wasn't actually called a reception, though," whispers a guest.
> > "They wanted it low-key."
>
> > Laura, 35, who is the daughter of Richard Roundell, deputy chairman of
> > Christie's, has worked as a fashion editor at Harper's Bazaar.
>
> > Normally I don't copy the full text, but the short article contains

> > information about the bride's father etc. ?Probably, the reason is


> > that she was divorced (and from an earl's younger son), but there
> > might be several other reasons.
>

> > Shinjinee- Hide quoted text -

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