BEVAN, Lady (Pamela Murray nee SMITH) d 2019

[Richard R]

From the Telegraph and Times of 27 November 2019: BEVAN Lady. Pamela Murray, dearly loved wife of the late Sir Timothy, died peacefully on 21st November. Devoted mother of Nicola, Fiona, Mark and Hugh and much loved grandmother and great grandmother. Thanksgiving Service at St Mark’s Church, Staplefield at 2 p.m. on Tuesday 17th December.

She was d of Norman SMITH and Margaret _. She m 1952 Sir Timothy Hugh (1927-2016) s of Francis Hugh BEVAN (1895-1971), scion of the gentry family of that name of Trent Park and of the BOSANQUET gentry family, and Pleasance Mary Vidal (1901-84) d of Frederick SCRUTTON (1859-1937) by his 1892 m (reg Q2 Suffolk) to Maude Cunliffe VIDAL (1868-1927, descended from Gen Sir Robert Henry CUNLIFFE 4th Bt (1785-1859)), and had 3 sons and a dau as above.

[Jeff Rosenfeld]

The following is related to Gen Sir Robert Henry Cunliffe:

1. From Debrette's Baronetage ed 1840,then current Bt:

"SIR ROBERT-HENRY CUNLIFFE, Baronet, born 22 1785, succeeded his father

, sir Foster, 15 June 1834, a Major General in the service of the East Indiia Company;

married twice in india, and has issue:

1 Robert, 2 Louisa, 3 Harriot, 4 Emma-Rhoda 5 George, 6 David. 7 Charlotte 8 Henry"...

2. From East India Register and Army List ed 1845:

Served as Colonel Bengal 4th Reg. Native Infantry. Appt Major Gen. 1836. Awarded CB

July 22 1838.

 

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 2:05 AM Richard R <r_ru...@hotmail.com> wrote:

From the Telegraph and Times of 27 November 2019: BEVAN Lady. Pamela Murray, dearly loved wife of the late Sir Timothy, died peacefully on 21st November. Devoted mother of Nicola, Fiona, Mark and Hugh and much loved grandmother and great grandmother. Thanksgiving Service at St Mark’s Church, Staplefield at 2 p.m. on Tuesday 17th December.

She was d of Norman SMITH and Margaret _. She m 1952 Sir Timothy Hugh (1927-2016) s of Francis Hugh BEVAN (1895-1971), scion of the gentry family of that name of Trent Park and of the BOSANQUET gentry family, and Pleasance Mary Vidal (1901-84) d of Frederick SCRUTTON (1859-1937) by his 1892 m (reg Q2 Suffolk) to Maude Cunliffe VIDAL (1868-1927, descended from Gen Sir Robert Henry CUNLIFFE 4th Bt (1785-1859)), and had 3 sons and a dau as above.

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[Jeff Rosenfeld]

Date of birth should be 22 April 1785

[G. Willis]

Frederic[k] Scrutton of Woolpits, Nutfield, Surrey, formerly of Copesfield [sic?], Snaresbrook [presumably Essex? See below]; m. Maude Cunliffe, dau. of Rev. Francis Furse Vidal, M.A. (Cantab.), rector of Creeting St Mary, nr Needham Market, Suffolk, schoolmaster at Eton, and Lucy Mary, dau. of Robert Ellis Cunliffe (s. of Gen. Sir Robert Henry Cunliffe, 4th Bt).

Frederic's (this spelling is on his probate record, that of his father, and elsewhere) elder son was Furse Fairfax Vidal Scrutton (1893-1938), of Tower House, Bletchingley, Surrey, and of 16, Fenchurch Avenue, London, 'master stevedore' [on his father's probate record]; he m. 1918, Emmeline Mary, dau. of Owen Charles Bevan, M.C., and sister of Francis Hugh Bevan (as in Richard's post), their mother being Mary Frances Merelina, dau. of Theodore Bosanquet, I.C.S., of West Down House, of that family formerly of Broxbornebury (see BLG 1965). Pleasance Mary Vidal Scrutton's elder sister, Barbara Vidal Scrutton (1895-) m. 1916, Capt. Humphrey Richard Pelly, Royal Engineers, s. of Herbert Cecil Pelly (grand-s. of Sir John Henry Pelly, 1st Bt).

Per this source- http://www.theydon.org.uk/lhs/Downloads/LHS%20News%20200.pdf - 'Frederick Scrutton (1859–1937) was involved in Scrutton Sons and Co and Scruttons Ltd. His son was Furse Fairfax Vidal Scrutton (1893–1938) of Scruttons Ltd and in turn his son was Philip Furse Scrutton (1923–1958) of Scruttons Ltd.' This is of assistance in ascertaining earlier generations, as follows.

This site- http://www.green.gen.name/vidal/D6.htm - providing also the marriage announcement of Maude Cunliffe Vidal and Frederic Scrutton ('of Copesfield [sic?], Snaresbrook') in 'The Suffolk Chronicle' of 23 Apr. 1892- indicates the groom to be son of Thomas Scrutton.

Frederic Scrutton appears in census records alongside Thomas and Mary Scrutton; in 1871 resident at Poplar, and in 1881 at East India Road, Poplar, as a 'ship broker's clerk'. His father's birth year is given as 1829, his wife born the previous year at Denton, Norfolk. The 1854 marriage of Thomas Scrutton and Mary, dau. of Rev. Edward Hickman, appears in a British Newspaper Archive family notice. 'The Life of Thomas E. Scrutton', by David Foxton, gives a lot of detail on the Scrutton family ship business, and identifies the Thomas Scrutton ('the younger') that married Mary Hickman (her father Rev. Edward a 'Norwich Congregational minister') as Thomas Urquhart Scrutton, b. Oct. 1828. His father was also Thomas Scrutton (there is additionally a Thomas Urquhart Scrutton b. 1825, to Alexander and Rebecca Scrutton, at Kingsland, Middx., but this appears to be a different individual; the 1896 probate record for Thomas Urquhart Scrutton provides the names of his sons, Frederic and Thomas Edward [later Sir Thomas, a judge- https://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-35998 ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Edward_Scrutton]. The death record gives this T. U. Scrutton as 1829-1896).

The elder Thomas Scrutton, per this account, was in 1861 of '2 East India Road, Poplar, "a large Georgian house, surrounded by large gardens and an orchard"', and 'the success of the firm enabled Thomas the elder to acquire a second home on the Isle of Wight called "Copsefield"' (for which, presumably, 'Copesfield' [sic] at Snaresbrook was named by his son). Thomas the younger is noted to have lived at 11 East India Road in the 1861 census, which corroborates the 1871 and 1881 census details above. The book states of Thomas the younger also that 'in late 1881 or early 1882, they moved to a new house in Buckhurst Hill, Essex- named "Copsefield" after Thomas the elder's house on the Isle of Wight."

The earlier generations of the family are given thus: Robert Scrutton, of Ipswich, tailor, had a second son, James, of 18, Robinson's Road, Kingsland, Middx., a stationer (Freeman of the Stationers' Company from 1790), later a stockbroker with Ellis, Scrutton & Co. James m. 1793, Susannah, dau. of Alexander Urquhart, a shipbroker and West Indies trader. James Scrutton made a substantial financial contribution to his brother in law Thomas Urquhart's firm, Urquhart and Hope, ship and insurance brokers and merchants, which was the Scruttons' first venture in this field. Thomas Scrutton (the elder, as above) was James Scrutton's third son, b. 1797; he was educ. Christ's Hospital, then joined Urquhart and Hope (adding his name in the process), and became a Lloyd's underwriter at that time. By 1840, Thomas Scrutton the elder was the sole owner of the company, purchasing its first ship in 1843 and expanding from then onward. Thomas (the younger) was his second son by his wife, per census records named Mary (1811-).

It's worth noting that David Foxton's book, particularly the first section (as somewhat outlined in the previous paragraph), viewable here- https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=FaKyAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA6&lpg=PA6&dq=Thomas+Scrutton+Mary+Hickman&source=bl&ots=iu4hmdPORM&sig=ACfU3U1LcbVUoOcJGTobI8TZdXZHpnII_g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiz5Oa0t5DmAhU5RBUIHSFaDgAQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=Thomas%20Scrutton%20Mary%20Hickman&f=false - gives a lot of detail on the Scruttons and is quite illuminating, with regard to details such as that Thomas the younger's 'generation of the family spoke broad Cockney' according to his granddaughter, and much else.

[Jeff Rosenfeld]

The following is related to Gen Sir Robert Henry Cunliffe:

1. From Debrette’s Baronetage ed 1840, then current Bt:

“SIR ROBERT HENRY CUNLIFFE, born 22 April 1785, succeeded his father, Sir Foster

, 15 June 1834, a Major General in the service of the East India Company; married twice in India, and has issue:

1.Robert, 2, Louise, 3, Harriot, 4, Emma-Rhoda, 5, George, 6, David, 7, Charlotte, 6, Henry”…

2. From East India Register and Army List ed 1845:

Served as Colonel Bengal  4^th Reg. Native Infantry. Appt. Major Gen. 1836. Awarded CB July 22 1838.

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[dpth...@gmail.com]

From my file on this family; I have identified 17 children, collating information from various volumes of Debrett’s, Burke’s, Lodge, etc.:

 

2.1.2.Sir Robert Henry, 4^th Bt. (22 Apr 1785-10 Sep 1859); m 1^st 15 Dec 1805 Mrs Louisa Forest (d.4 May 1822); m.2^nd 2 Apr 1825 Susan Emily Paton (d.11 Nov 1856)

[by1st m.]:

2.1.2.1.Robert Ellis (27 Mar 1808-31 Mar 1855); m.2 May 1837 Charlotte Howel (d.1856)

… issue …

2.1.2.2.George, d.India 18 Oct 1834

2.1.2.3.David (14 Feb 1815-19 Sep 1873); m.24 Oct 1837 Fanny Priscilla Davies

…issue…

2.1.2.4.Louisa Harriot, d.10 Feb 1899; m.21 Oct 1835 Hippisley Marsh

2.1.2.5.Emma Rhoda, d.12 May 1836; m.23 Jul 1831 John Panton Gubbins

2.1.2.6.Charlotte, d.15 May 1883; m. Gen. Frederick Smith

[by 2^nd m.]:

2.1.2.7.Rev. Henry (16 Mar 1826-1 Aug 1894); m.1^st 16 Nov 1853 Mary Augusta (d.2 Dec 1879), dau of Sir J M Riddell, 2^nd Bt.; m.2^nd 20 Apr 1887 Lady Alexandrina Victoria Murray (d.21 Nov 1911)

…issue…

2.1.2.8.Charles Watkin (6 Apr 1833-k.during Indian Rebellion at Byram Ghat Jun 1857)

2.1.2.9.Foster John (14 Oct 1834-Lucknow 22 Sep 1857)

2.1.2.10.Frank (8 July 1839-24 Mar 1878)

2.1.2.11.Mary, d.23 Oct 1912

2.1.2.12.Harriot

2.1.2.13.Emily

2.1.2.14.Janet Victoria, d.3 Jul 1900; m.19 Feb 1867 Andrew Aldcorn Munro (d.2 Feb 1898)

2.1.2.15.Clare,d.31 Oct 1879; m.6 Oct 1875 Thomas William Hopper Tolbart (d.1883)

2.1.2.16.Agnes, d.an infant

2.1.2.17.Alicia

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