Lord Milo Douglas dead

[Shinjinee]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203872/Tormented-lord-jumps-death-council-block.html
[3 August 2009]

"He was second in line to the historic title of the Marquess of
Queensberry.
But for Lord Milo Douglas, 34, life was hardly one of stately homes,
exclusive parties and aristocratic ease.
For years, while working as a teacher and later as a charity worker,
he battled depression. Finally, unable to cope any longer, he leapt to
his death from a council tower block.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203872/Tormented-lord-jumps-death-council-block.html#ixzz0N4skPUO4"

Lord Milo was second in line, because his older 42-year-old brother
Sholto was declared legitimate by Lord Lyon upon application by his
parents (simplifying matters). Otherwise, he would have been Viscount
Drumlanrig.

The Marquess still has two legitimate (or legitimated sons) - Viscount
Drumlanrig and Torquhil (or Torquil, forget the name). Plus Ambrose
Carey, son by Anne Carey.

It is a bit disingenuous to call Caroline Carey a stepsister, because
she is the half-sister of Ambrose Carey, who was born by the
Marquess's liaision with Anne Carey, wife of another man. AFAIK, she
never grew up with the Queensberry lot.

The Marquess has two daughters by his first marriage, three sons (now
two sons living) and one daughter by his second marriage, and one
daughter by his third marriage, plus one (eldest) illegitimate son.
I'm not sure how we come to 12 children.

"Lord Milo, who attended the private Dauntsey's School, in Devizes,
Wiltshire, and Manchester University, was one of 12 children of the
Marquess of Queensberry, and born to his second wife Alexa, a former
model."

Lots of dirt still omitted in the article apart from the Marquess's
own complicated life. The 12th Marquess is descended from not the
eldest brother of Lord Alfred but another brother. The eldest brother
Viscount Drumlanrig also committed suicide (or died mysteriously) in
the 1890s. Their grandfather the 8th Marquess was also said to have
committed suicide. The 9th Marquess was noted for his marital
misbehavior - his first wife divorcing HIM, and still getting to the
1902 Coronation (another story there).

Shinjinee

[marquess]

Thanks for that, most interesting! May Lord Milo rest in peace. What
is the 1902 coronation story then?
On 2 Aug, 13:12, Shinjinee <SSenpub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203872/Tormented-lord-jumps-...

> [3 August 2009]
>
> "He was second in line to the historic title of the Marquess of
> Queensberry.
> But for Lord Milo Douglas, 34, life was hardly one of stately homes,
> exclusive parties and aristocratic ease.
> For years, while working as a teacher and later as a charity worker,
> he battled depression. Finally, unable to cope any longer, he leapt to
> his death from a council tower block.
>

> Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203872/Tormented-lord-jumps-..."

[www.maltagenealogy.com]

How very sad, and in todays world and so many suffering bi-polar
disorder.

"He had a problem with bi-polar disorder,' he said outside the
family's London home.
'He decided he had enough. It's the worst thing that can happen to
anyone, but I guess it has to happen to somebody every now and again.
'He would swing from highs to lows, and had a very severe depression.
I suppose we have known about it ten or 12 years.
'He just hit a very black, low period. 'Basically he decided the
problems of life exceeded its advantages, in a way. He was on
medication, but I don't think he could have been absolutely right."

[Richard R]

Here's the Telegraph death notice: August 8th 2009
DOUGLAS
Milo Luke Dickon, aged 34 years, adored son of David and Alexa
Queensberry, who died suddenly on 21st July. Treasured by his brothers
and sisters, nephews and nieces and by the many who were fortunate to
know him. Enquiries to 07770 756626.

And the Times:
Milo Luke Dickon Douglas
Milo Luke Dickon, aged 34 years, adored son of David and Alexa
Queensberry, who died suddenly on 21st July 2009. Treasured by his
brothers and sisters, nephews and nieces, and by the many who were
fortunate to know him. Enquiries to 07770 756 626.


On Aug 3, 5:00 am, marquess <marquessmarqu...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Thanks for that, most interesting! May LordMilorest in peace. What

> is the 1902 coronation story then?
> On 2 Aug, 13:12, Shinjinee <SSenpub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203872/Tormented-lord-jumps-...
> > [3 August 2009]
>
> > "He was second in line to the historic title of the Marquess of
> > Queensberry.

> > But for LordMiloDouglas, 34, life was hardly one of stately homes,

> > exclusive parties and aristocratic ease.
> > For years, while working as a teacher and later as a charity worker,
> > he battled depression. Finally, unable to cope any longer, he leapt to
> > his death from a council tower block.
>
> > Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203872/Tormented-lord-jumps-..."
>

> > LordMilowas second in line, because his older 42-year-old brother

> > Sholto was declared legitimate by Lord Lyon upon application by his
> > parents (simplifying matters).  Otherwise, he would have been Viscount
> > Drumlanrig.
>
> > The Marquess still has two legitimate (or legitimated sons) - Viscount
> > Drumlanrig and Torquhil (or Torquil, forget the name). Plus Ambrose
> > Carey, son by Anne Carey.
>
> > It is a bit disingenuous to call Caroline Carey a stepsister, because
> > she is the half-sister of Ambrose Carey, who was born by the
> > Marquess's liaision with Anne Carey, wife of another man.  AFAIK, she
> > never grew up with the Queensberry lot.
>
> > The Marquess has two daughters by his first marriage, three sons (now
> > two sons living) and one daughter by his second marriage, and one
> > daughter by his third marriage, plus one (eldest) illegitimate son.
> > I'm not sure how we come to 12 children.
>

> > "LordMilo, who attended the private Dauntsey's School, in Devizes,

> > Wiltshire, and Manchester University, was one of 12 children of the
> > Marquess of Queensberry, and born to his second wife Alexa, a former
> > model."
>
> > Lots of dirt still omitted in the article apart from the Marquess's
> > own complicated life.  The 12th Marquess is descended from not the
> > eldest brother of Lord Alfred but another brother.  The eldest brother
> > Viscount Drumlanrig also committed suicide (or died mysteriously) in
> > the 1890s.  Their grandfather the 8th Marquess was also said to have
> > committed suicide.  The 9th Marquess was noted for his marital
> > misbehavior - his first wife divorcing HIM, and still getting to the
> > 1902 Coronation (another story there).
>

> > Shinjinee- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Shinjinee]

I'm getting ready to leave town, so here is a quick summary sans any
references

His first wife Sybil Montgomery (granddaughter maternally of the 1st
Baron Leconfield, himself illegitimate son of the 3rd Earl of
Egremont, by his mistress later separated wife, Elizabeth Iliffe) whom
he married 1866 divorced him 1887 for various reasons. [His second
marriage to a woman considered unsuitable also collapsed, this time
sans issue]. She was the mother of all his children including Lord
Alfred "Bosie" Douglas. As a Scottish peeress - the Queensberry
marqisate is in the Peerage of Scotland - she retained the rank, style
and precedence of a marchioness even after her divorce. She therefore
insisted on attending the 1902 Coronation, and after an argument legal
and otherwise, was permitted to do so.

Unfortunately, I can't find the relevant sources for this, so this
will have to remain unconfirmed for now. No evidence found in any
Google book search or a group search or a web search. I do remember
this however either from a discussion of Lord Alfred Douglas, or from
a discussion with alt.talk.royalty about precedence and style of
divorced peeresses. The discussion may not have been archived by
Google [it may have been pre-1996].


For more details
Mention of Sybil's petition for adultery and other causes
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=TAN18870226.2.49&l=mi&e=-------10--1----0-all


Shinjinee

[Dennis Cunniff]

On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Shinjinee wrote:

> His first wife Sybil Montgomery ... divorced him 1887 for various
> reasons.

> She was the mother of all his children including Lord

> Alfred "Bosie" Douglas. As a Scottish peeress - the Queensberry
> marqisate is in the Peerage of Scotland - she retained the rank, style
> and precedence of a marchioness even after her divorce.

Erroneously, but interestingly, her tombstone (at the Franciscan
Monastery at Crawley) describes her as "Sibyl Queensberry / Widow of
the 8th Marquis of Queensberry".