Steeden/Patten engagement
Michael Rhodes
son of Mrs Helen Steeden, of Kingston, Surrey and the late Mr Hugh
Steeden, and the Hon Alice Patten, youngest daughter of the Baron
Patten PC (b. 1945) , of Barnes, and Baroness Patten.
Michael Rhodes (please delete the x to e-mail me)
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bx...@yahoo.com
Hon. Mary-Claire, b. 1986. Did they miss a second daughter?
Brooke
bx...@yahoo.com
On Mar 8, 6:42�am, "Michael Rhodes" <migx73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Turenne
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>Michael, Debrett's 2003 shows Baron Patten with only one daughter--
>Hon. Mary-Claire, b. 1986. Did they miss a second daughter?
Patten has three daughters - Kate, Laura, and Alice. Alice is an
Oxford educated actress.
Richard Lichten
Peter FitzGerald
That's Lord Patten of Barnes (who is presumably the life peer Michael
was referring to, though he was born in 1944, not 1945). Lord Patten
(who was born in 1945) is someone different. (If life peers stopped
insisting on having their surnames in their peerages confusion like
this wouldn't arise.)
bx...@yahoo.com
and round with this one!
Peter, I'm with you as far as what these life peers choose to call
themselves. Life's too short to sort out (for example) Hunt, Hunt of
Chesterson, Hunt of Fawley, Hunt of Kings Heath, Hunt Of Tanworth and
Hunt of Wirral.
Brooke
bx...@yahoo.com
On Mar 10, 7:51�pm, "Peter FitzGerald" <pmpfitzger...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Michael Rhodes
Kong was b. 1944, not 1945. He is Lord Patten of Barnes, not "Lord
Patten, of Barnes" the comma is very important.
On 11 Mar, 16:13, "b...@yahoo.com" <b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Richard and Peter, for the clarification. I was going round
> and round with this one!
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> Peter, I'm with you as far as what these life peers choose to call
> themselves. Life's too short to sort out (for example) Hunt, Hunt of
> Chesterson, Hunt of Fawley, Hunt of Kings Heath, Hunt Of Tanworth and
> Hunt of Wirral.
>
> Brooke
> b...@yahoo.com
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> On Mar 10, 7:51?pm, "Peter FitzGerald" <pmpfitzger...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
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> > On 10 Mar, 23:36, "Turenne" <richard.licht...@virgin.net> wrote:
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> > > Brooke wrote:
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> > > >Michael, Debrett's 2003 shows Baron Patten with only one daughter--
> > > >Hon. Mary-Claire, b. 1986. ?Did they miss a second daughter?
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> > > Patten has three daughters - Kate, Laura, and Alice. Alice is an
> > > Oxford educated actress.
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> > > Richard Lichten
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> > That's Lord Patten of Barnes (who is presumably the life peer Michael
> > was referring to, though he was born in 1944, not 1945). Lord Patten
> > (who was born in 1945) is someone different. (If life peers stopped
> > insisting on having their surnames in their peerages confusion like
> > this wouldn't arise.)- Hide quoted text -
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the_ver...@comcast.net
Turenne
>Yes, sorry about the confusion, Chris Patten, sometime Gov of Hong
>Kong was b. 1944, not 1945. He is Lord Patten of Barnes, not "Lord
>Patten, of Barnes" the comma is very important.
Just by way of checking that I've got this right: there are two Lords
Patten, of 'of Barnes' doesn't live in Barnes but the other, plain
Lord Patten does live in Barnes. One was born in 1944 and the other in
1945, and they both have daughters called Alice. You couldn't make it
up!
Richard L
Michael Rhodes
This Alice then is the daughter of Lord Patten, of Barnes, and not
Lord Patten of Barnes.
Turenne
On 13 Mar, 01:03, "Michael Rhodes" <migx73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Thanks for the clarification Michael. Why the junior peer could have
chosen 'Lord Barnes' as his title I don't know.
Richard L
Turenne
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Sorry, correction; '...couldn't have....'
Richard