O'NEILL / Waterbury engagement

[Richard R]

From the Times of 21 July 2022: THE HON F. H. N. O’NEILL AND MISS L. A. WATERBURY The engagement is announced between François, son of Lord and Lady Rathcavan of Cleggan Lodge, Ballymena, County Antrim, and Lydia, daughter of the late Mr Richard Waterbury and Mrs Richard Waterbury of Chelsea, London.

Hon Francois Hugh Nial O'NEILL b 1984 s&ha of the 3rd Baron RATHCAVAN b 1939 and Sylvie Marie-Therese d of Georges WICHARD of Provence, France.

Lydia Anne b 1986 reg Q3 London d of Richard Colin WATERBURY b Aug 1946 and _ O'SULLIVAN.

[Henry W]

I presume this marriage took place, although confirmation of date would be helpful.  At the time of the engagement Francois was the only person in remainder to the title.

They have issue:

T H R O'NEILL (m/m/n Waterbury), b Q1 2023 Westminster.

Another child seen in social media, male, who is seen in social media - probably born circa 2020?  Not clear if he is issue of the marriage, or one of the couple from a previous relationship.

[colinp]

Thanks Henry.  As you will have seen I found a potential marriage date of 3 Dec 2022.

Could you just verify the reference for the birth of THR O'Neill? Nothing is coming up when I search GRO

[Patricia Light]

Colin, i too have found the entry: its a son if you type in the district on GRO i.e. Westminster, because you are right if you just type O'Neill/Waterbury nothing appears, hope this helps

[Patricia Light]

Lydia O'Neill (Waterbury) instagram page: could the 2nd child be Atticus - what do others think?

https://www.instagram.com/_lydsoneill/?hl=en

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Looks like the wedding took place on December 3, 2022 (see the next to the last page):

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/619f9a5785bda14d5d18ed47/t/6388b471cdb6a808d27d443c/1669903491121/December-2022.pdf

Brooke

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Sorry-- it's actually page 9 (or 4th from the last page).

Brooke

[bx...@yahoo.com]

I don't have an Instagram account, but I do see, in googling, there is a Lydia O'Neill with THREE boys.  

Not sure if it's the same Lydia in question.

Brooke

[colinp]

It appears the eldest Blaise MORRIS is from a previous relationship

[bx...@yahoo.com]

An interview with the new baron, from a few months ago.  In it, he mentions "having had kids," but nothing more specific:

https://realpowerofone.com/en-us/blogs/boxing-elite-performance-mentality-and-mental-health/lets-be-frank-with-francois-oneill?srsltid=AfmBOorCy96UFesEV3ZJSrK7hX9tDI2Jt5b6KMrwTgjQj3e1207S0Uyr

Brooke

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Henry, "T H R" makes sense, in light of the post in the other thread, of a son, Tyrone Hugh Richard, who was born.

The detective work of this group never fails to amaze me!

Brooke

[Henry W]

Brooke,

The reason why I initially posted it as "T H R" was that I had found the birth in the GRO, was relatively sure it was correct as a child of this couple, but there was no announcement of the birth that I had found.

I'm very conscious that some parents choose not to place the names of their children into the public domain, and that if we do so, internet searches are likely to lead to this group, which the parents, and subsequently the children themselves, may not be happy with.

By posting as T H R, I know that most posters would be able to gather the relevant information from the GRO themselves and update their notes.

However, in this case I did subsequently find the instagram announcement of his birth and so felt a new thread was the correct way to bring it to the groups attention as the parents are clearly okay with the information being in the public domain.

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Makes perfect sense, Henry.

In any event, it looks like there is an heir (or two) to the barony after all, so no need to add it to your Heirless Titles list.

Thanks for your hard work.

Brooke.