Marchioness of Dufferin and Ava

[pyvery]

The death has been announced of the widow of the 5th marquess.

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here is a source: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/marchioness-of-dufferin-and-ava-dies-aged-79-after-short-illness-39673325.html

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Richard Guinness, of Celbridge (b.ca 1690-d.after 1766); m.1st Elizabeth Read (1698-28 Aug 1742); m.2nd ca 1752 Mrs Elizabeth Clare

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Samuel (ca 1727-1795); m.6 Aug 1753 Sarah Jago (1732-Aug 1794)

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Richard (6 Sep 1755-10 Sep 1829); m.25 Sep 1783 Mary Darley (d.15 Oct 1836)

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Robert Rundell, of Stillorgan (12 Dec 1789-7 Mar 1857); m.1st 2 Nov 1822 Mary Anne Seymour (d.Jul 1837); m.2nd 27 Jun 1840 Mary Anne Moore (d.7 Oct 1889)

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Richard Seymour (28 Apr 1826-2 Dec 1915); m.30 Jul 1857 his cousin Elizabeth Jane Darley, dau of Rev. John Darley by Susanna Guinness

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Benjamin Seymour (18 Nov 1868-15 Dec 1947); m.1st 9 Dec 1902 Bridget Henrietta Frances (d.5 Jan 1931), dau of Sir Richard Williams-Bulkeley, 11th Bt.; m.2nd 2 Apr 1936 Maresa Maria Nunziante di Mignano

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[Thomas] Loel Evelyn Bulkeley (9 Jun 1906-31 Dec 1988); m.1st 4 Jul 1927 (div 1936) Hon. Joan Barbara Yarde-Buller (22 Apr 1908-25 Apr  1997);m.2nd 24 Nov 1936 (div 1951) Lady Isabel Manners (5 Jan 1918-21 Dec 2008); m.3rd 7 Apr 1951 Gloria Rubio y Alatorre (d.1980), formerly wife of Franz Graf von Fürstenberg-Herdringen 

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1.Patrick Benjamin (10 Mar 1931-nr Raron, Wallis 5 Oct 1965); m.Paris 22 Oct 1955 Dolores Freiin von Fürstenberg-Herdringen (b.Berlin-Charlottenburg 31 Jul 1936)

2.William Loel Seymour, b.28 Dec 1939; m.5 Nov 1971 (div 1994) Agnes Elizabeth Lynn Day

3.Serena Belinda Rosemary "Lindy" (25 Mar 1941-Oct 2020); m.21 Oct 1964 Sheridan Frederick Terence Hamilton-Temple-Blackwood, 5th Marquess of Dufferin and Ava (9 Jul 1938-1988)

[Henry W]

A significant period of widowhood, and she appeared to be occupying the estate of the family she married into.  The estate website seems to pride itself on belonging to the family for a period of time, which makes me wonder if her interest was only for life, and it will now default to a member of the Blackwood family; the current Baron Dufferin and Claneboye is an obvious candidate, but there are female line descendants of the Marquesses also.

[malcolm davies]

The holder of the Dufferin barony lives in Australia.It is highly likely that the Irish estate has already been alienated, so that the holder of the Barony has no remaining interest(if he or his predecessors ever had such an interest).This is particularly so, given the costs of running the estate and that those costs  likely were contributed to from the Guiness family of whom both the widows of the 4th & 5th Marquesses were members.

[marquess]

In the interests of tradition it would be nice to see the estate with the current baron, but it will probably end up with the Irish National Trust or whatever equivalent they have in Ireland.

[Richard R]

The Telegraph and Times have been prompt in getting their obits out, both in their editions of 28 Oct 2020:

The Times (it notes "Sheridan bequeathed Clandeboye to his wife, but with a letter telling her that she should sell the estate if it proved a burden."):
EXTRACT
The Marchioness of Dufferin and Ava obituary
Artist, yoghurt entrepreneur and colourful scion of the Guinness family who was painted by Hockney and dived with Cousteau
...She was born Serena Belinda Rosemary Guinness in 1941 in Scotland. Her father, Loel Guinness, a financier who was serving as a wartime group captain, had decreed that his young second wife, Lady Isabel (née Manners), daughter of the 9th Duke of Rutland, should cheer everyone up by giving birth at Prestwick airport. “New life in the middle of war, you know,” his daughter once said. She was raised by a series of nannies in Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire, the family seat of the dukes of Rutland.
...As a debutante she met Sheridan Hamilton-Temple-Blackwood, the 5th Marquess of Dufferin and Ava, her fourth cousin through their great-grandfather, Edward Guinness, 1st Earl of Iveagh. “The Guinness family is fairly big,” she explained. “But we all have the sense of us being from the same team.” Their wedding in Westminster Abbey in 1964 was attended by 2,000 guests, including Princess Margaret, and was widely reported by the international press. The couple divided their time between London and Clandeboye, her husband’s family estate 12 miles outside Belfast, where Sheridan’s widowed mother still ruled the roost. Restoring Clandeboye to its former glory was a big task: the estate had been in the Blackwood family since 1674 and the present house was built in 1801. The 1st Marquess of Dufferin and Ava, a friend of Queen Victoria, ambassador to Italy, France, Russia and Canada, and viceroy of India from 1884 to 1888, had shipped back boatloads of treasure from his travels. All of them needed sorting. “Empire is a dirty word now,” Dufferin said with some nostalgia in 2009. “But I think it’s important to face up to the fact that at one point Britain ruled the world.”
...Sheridan, whom she adored, died from an Aids-related illness in 1988 aged 49 and was described in one obituary as “basically homosexual”; the couple had no children. The marquessate died with him, although an older title, the barony of Dufferin and Clandeboye in the Irish peerage, passed to a relative in Australia. Sheridan bequeathed Clandeboye to his wife, but with a letter telling her that she should sell the estate if it proved a burden.
The Marchioness of Dufferin and Ava, artist and conservationist, was born on March 25, 1941. She died on October 26 2020, aged 79

The Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2020/10/27/marchioness-dufferin-ava-artist-conservationist-chatelaine-great/

[Dapifer de Truchsess]

Well the estate is actually in Northern Ireland, so perhaps the Trust. But also, there is perhaps a bit of stretch for her to transfer to her husbands  extremely distant cousin who lives in Australia if memory serves. I believe the barony went to the 10th Baron who was descended from the youngest son of the first Baroness, making the ties extremely tenuous. 

Though I can't remember if I have this right or not, but was the heir to the Earldom of Abergavenny, but not the Marquessate invited to work with the estate? I believe the heir have their own, Birling Park, rings a bell, but it just strikes a note. 

Even still, in todays day and age, outside of the 10th Duke of Beaufort inviting his first cousin, twice removed to come and aid with the management of the estate before he eventually inherited the title, how frequent does this actually happen.

[BREMENMURRAY]

The late Earl of Leicester invited a distant cousin from abroad to run the Holkham Hall estate prior to eventually inheriting the title

[pyvery]

I would not call in the earl of leicester that you mention a first cousin distant.How much closer can you get than a first cousin ?

In this case it was the first cousin's son who came to Norfolk.

[BrumBoy71]

The estate was bought from creditors of the 4th Marquess (father-in-law of the deceased) by his widow Maureen Guinness, not unlike the Atholl estates, so no real "obligation" to pass to a Dufferin cousin.

Interesting to see though whether the estate becomes an independent trust with no financial benefit to the immediate family or passes in some beneficial way to the descendants of the 4th Marquess and Maureen Guinness. 

The beneficiaries of Maureen's nephew Garech Browne raised some €30 million from his Irish estate. 

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[Henry W]

Thanks for all the replies - I had not realised that the Guinness family had bought the estate from the creditors of the 4th Marquess.  I had also forgotten the 11th Baron was in Australia.

I think some Trust setup is likely as this is common these days.  I hope that the family maintain some ability to house a representative on the estate, again this being done in similar circumstances.

[JonnyK]

I had heard that Lady Dufferin was trying to persuade a niece to take over the place some day. That niece might be Chloe Guinness, who is married to Lord Reginald Vane-Tempest-Stewart, yr brother of the "new" Marquess of Londonderry.

My understanding is the house has already been in the ownership of a trust, obviously the hope is that whatever happens, the collection in the house remains there and there's not a great auction that disperses everything. Clandeboye itself isn't a terribly interesting or attractive house, it's the collection assembled by the 1st Marquess and perhaps a smattering of Hockneys and other modern pieces that Lindy and Sheridan might have acquired.

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[Richard R]

Death notice in the Telegraph & Times of 29 Oct 2020: DUFFERIN Lindy - The Marchioness of Dufferin & Ava of Clandeboye, Co Down and London. 26th October 2020, peacefully after a short illness but a fantastically full life, she was a friend to so many and loved by all whose path she crossed. Due to the current restrictions and in accordance with her wishes there will be a private funeral at her beloved Clandeboye but again in line with her wishes there will follow at a later date memorials in celebration of her life in both Northern Ireland and London.

[Richard R]

From the Times of 23 Oct 2021:
Thanksgiving Service: the Marchioness of Dufferin and Ava
The Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall were represented by the Earl of Rosslyn at a service of thanksgiving for the life of the Marchioness of Dufferin and Ava, held on Friday October 22, 2021 at St Margaret’s Church, Westminster Abbey.
The Rev Anthony Ball, rector of St Margaret’s Church, officiated, gave the bidding, pronounced the blessing and also gave the address. The Rev Robert Latham, sacrist, led the prayers, assisted by Princess Dora Loewenstein and the Hon Sir Ian Huddleston.
Mr William Guinness, brother, read the lesson: I Corinthians 15, verses 51–55.
Mr Rupert Sheldrake read Afterwards by Thomas Hardy and Mr Harry Mount read an excerpt from Lindy Dufferin’s diary, written in the library at Clandeboye in 2017.
Mr Thomas Pakenham paid tribute.
During the service, St Margaret’s Choir, conducted by Mr Greg Morris, sang and Mr Richard Pearce played the organ. Ms Ailish Tynan, soprano, sang the Aria from Notenbüchlein für Anna Magdalena Bach by Johann Sebastian Bach.
The Irish Ambassador was represented by Mr Michael Lonergan.

Also present were: Mrs William Guinness (sister-in-law), Mr and Mrs Sheridan Guinness, Mr Benjamin Guinness, Mr Samuel Guinness, Mr and Mrs Thomas Seymour Guinness, Ms Bella Guinness, Ms Alice Guinness, the Duke of Rutland, Lord Edward Manners with other members of the family.

The Duke and Duchess of Wellington, the Marquess and Marchioness of Salisbury, the Earl and Countess of Airlie, the Earl and Countess of Antrim, the Earl and Countess of Drogheda, the Countess of Castle Stewart, Anna, Countess of Erne, the Countess of Lichfield, Lucy Countess of Snowdon, Viscount Bangor, Viscountess Esher, Viscountess Stuart of Findhorn, Baroness Sainsbury of Preston Candover, Lord and Lady Cecil, Lord Mandelson, Lady Henrietta Spencer Churchill, Lady Amabel Lindsay, Lady Sophia Pilkington, Lady Jane Wellesley, the Hon Christopher and Mrs Chetwode, the Hon and Mrs Erskine Guinness, the Hon Dr and Mrs Finn Guinness, the Hon Sir Mark Lennox-Boyd, the Hon and Mrs Nathaniel Rothschild, the Hon Hannah Rothschild, the Hon Toby and Lady Emma Tennant, Sir Nicholas and Lady Bacon, Sir Richard and Lady Beckett, Sir Antony Beevor, Sir Timothy and Lady Clifford, Dame Vivien Duffield, Sir John Ritblat, Sir Tom and Lady Stoppard, Lady Weinberg, Princess Josephine Loewenstein, Count Aliotto della Gherardesca, Countess Margherita della Gherardesca, Prince Armyn Aga Khan. Mr Mark Amory, Mr and Mrs Noel Annesley, Ms Fiona Annesley, Mr Tommy Arran, Ms Claire Aston, Mr and Mrs James Barnard, Ms Willa Beckett, Mr Richard Burrows, Mr James Beechey, Mr Louis Benech, Ms Charlotte Black, Mr Jack Blakiston Houston, Ms Annette Bradshaw, Mr Charles Bradstock, Mr Neil Broomfield, Ms Linda Bruce, Ms Jenna Burlingham, Mr David Campbell, Mr and Mrs Peter Carew, Mr Edmund Carew, Mr Charles Cator, Ms Rachel Campbell Johnston, Ms Penny Cartwright, Ms Molly Ceglowski, Mr Jasper Conran, Mr Artemis Cooper, Mr Dan Cruickshank, Mr Arthur Channon, Mr Edward Clive, Mr Gordon Collins, Mr Shane Connolly, Ms Ruth Cornett, Ms Marita Crawley, Mr George Cruddas, Ms Harriet Cullen, Mr William Darby, Mr Christopher Dunkley, Mr Patrick Doherty, Mr Nicholas Drake, Mr Robert Dukes, Mr Ian Dunlop, Mr Rick Englert, Mr Simon Elliot, Mr John McEwen, Ms Emily FitzRoy, Ms Virginia Fraser, Mr Adrian Gibbs, Ms Catherine Goodman, Mr Charles Greig, Mr David Grigg, Mr Johnny Grimond, Ms Catherine Goodman, Mr Johnny Grimond, Mr Malachy Guinness, Mr Lorcan Guinness, Mr Michael Harding, Mr Nicky Haslam, Mr and Mrs David Heathcoat-Amory, Ms Sophie Hicks, Mr and Mrs Jools Holland, Mr James Hughes-Onslow, Mr Tom Hallifax, Mr Jamie Hamilton, Mr Guy Hayward, Mr John Hemming, Mr Toby and the Hon Mrs Helme, Mr Patrick James, Mr Glynn Kelso, Mr Christopher Kemp, Mr David Ker, Ms Gilly Kinloch, Mr Charles Kinloch, Mr Andrew Knight, Mr Tim Knox, Mr and Mrs Nick Kulukundis, Mr Noel Lamb, Mr Thomas Lighton, Mr William Lorimer, Mr Michael Lynas, Ms Laura Lindsay, Dr Raymond Maw, Ms Victoria Mcdonaugh, Mr Harvey McGrath, Ms Lucy McLaren, Mr Neil Mendoza, Mr Hugo Montgomery, Mrs Harry Mount, Mr S. Mulji and the Hon Rosaleen Mulji, Kabir, Sachin and Sangita Mulji, Mr Robert O’Byrne, Mr James O’Mahony, Mr Steven Officer, Mrs Thomas Pakenham, Mr Ivor Plymouth, Mr Mark Potton, Mr and Mrs Tristram Powell, Mr James Rawlin, Mr Sean Rafferty, Ms Katherine Reid, Dr Per Rumberg, Mr Francis Russell, Mr and Mrs Alexander Russell, Mr Piers Read, Mr Simon Rendall, Ms Julia Riley, Ms Claudia Rosencrantz, Mr and Mrs George Santis, Mr William Sieghart, Mrs Rupert Sheldrake, Mr Merlin Sheldrake, Mr Cosmo Sheldrake, Mr John Stefanidis, Mr Seth Stein, Mr Harry Stourton, Mr and Mrs Christopher Sykes, Mr Richard Taylor, Mr Matthew Travers, Ms Kate Trevelyan-Kee, Mr and Mrs Antonio Tomassini, Mr Jack Wakefield, Ms Flora Wallace, Mr and Mrs Dominic West, Mr Stephen White together with many more friends, and organisations having connection with the Marchioness.