Heirless titles (part 2)

[Henry W]

This follows: Heirless titles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Newprogressive/Peerage_titles_with_no_heirs

My page now tracks:
- Titles without any heirs
- Titles likely to become dormant on the death of the current holder
- Titles likely to become abeyant on the death of the current holder
- Titles likely to come out of abeyance as one of the co-heirs has no heir other than the remaining co-heir.
- Titles with one heir aged 50 or more
- Other titles under threat (those with multiple heirs, but all aged 50+)
- Titles Extinct since 2008

Recent updates (check the Edit History of the article - I try to keep notes in the comments):
- Baron Brain has no heirs (death of 3rd Baron)
- Carden baronetcy extinct (death of 5th baronet)
- Baron Harlech removed from list on discovery of heir apparent born 2024.
- Renshaw baronetcy added to Titles with one heir aged 50+.
- Cochrane and Dick-Lauder baronectcies added to Other titles under threat.

(NB Chaytor baronetcy not added on discovery of heir born 2008, see https://groups.google.com/g/peerage-news/c/iSha4_QY5Jc/m/eswCsmN5AwAJ )

I am left with various issues that have crept in over the years.  Some due to additional details about possible dormancies being added to the Kershaw lists.

- Dick-Lauder baronets is annotated by Kerhaw as A 1976 (to dorm).  After the death of the final heir (nephew of the 13th bt, born 1976) I am not aware of any possible heirs, however, this is a Nova Scotia baronetcy and according to the Complete Baronetage Volume IV the 1690 baronetcy was created "with rem. to [the 1st bt's] eldest son in tail male and his heirs male successively". I think this means that the remainder is not limited to heirs male of the body and more distant collaterals can succeed.

Titles that have an heir (or heirs) all aged 50+, followed by a line that cannot be fully accounted for, followed by a line of collaterals that are well documented and include younger heirs. This is a tricky list to work with as each case is slightly different. Examples:
- Campbell baronets of Auchinbreck (baronet born 1953, then dormant, then younger heirs).  Currently listed under Titles likely to become dormant.
- Synge baronets of Kiltrough (baronet born 1942, the dormant, then younger heirs).  Currently listed under Titles likely to become dormant.
- Baron Glanusk (5th Baron born 1942, then heir apparent born 1976, m no issue, then dormant, then younger heirs). Not listed at all as the title will not be immediately dormant on death of the 5th Baron, and does have younger heirs.
- Russell baronets of Swallowfield (baronet born 1955, then half brother born 1956, then dormant, then younger heirs). Not listed at all as the title will not be immediately dormant on death of the baronet, and does have younger heirs.
- Earl of Lauderdale (18th Earl born 1937, then son born 1965, div, then dormant, then younger heirs). Not listed at all as the title will not be immediately dormant on death of the 18th Earl, and does have younger heirs.
- Earl of Westmeath / Baron Devlin - I confess to not being sure what is going on here.  13th Earl born 1928, sons born 1965 & 1966.  Earldom is then dormant according to Kershaw, but no listing of unknown collaterals in Debrett's 2008.  Barony is released but according to Kershaw is dormant, but there are younger collaterals in Debrett's 2008

There may be other titles in similar situations that I have missed (please tell me!).  Looking through the Kershaw lists suggests there are several, but there is an heir under 50 before the dormancy.

Other titles thare are tricky:
- Baron Sinha - the pedigree is likely incomplete as the Baron and all possible heirs are resident in either India or the United States.  I have it listed under Titles with only 1 heir aged 50 or more, however, I think this may be incorrect on checking Debrett's 2008 as there apperas to be a collateral Sunil Sinha (b 1939) alive in the US (he is a physicist at UC San Diego) - he appears to have children who I think are male but unknown DoB.
- Earl of Clancarty - we believe there to be heirs in Australia (descendants of the 1st Earl) - see posts in this group, but Kershaw does not list these and gives its destination as dormancy.  I list Viscount Clancarty (granted to the 2nd Earl) as extinct on the death of the 9th Earl.

Similarly I make no attempt to list titles that are actually dormant with known collateral lines extant, e.g. Earl of Cavan (see posts in this group), but I fear this may be a significant task as there are several titles that have become dormant over the centuries where junior lines are well documented.

In my listing of titles that are extinct since 2008 I have been listing those that are dormant with no known heirs.
-  For Baron Trimlestown (dormant 2024) I gave a possible line of collaterals that was not fully accounted for.
-  Ideally I would like to do so for other titles in this position: Beaumont baronets (dormant 2011) and Reade baronets (dormant 2012).  I am not totally sure how to work this out though - I know Colin has done this work in the past and used Burke's Peerage to make the determination.
- For Beaumont is there a possibility of descendants of Thomas Davie Beaumont (1801 - 1824), ygr brother of the 8th baronet?
- For Reade is there a possibility of descendants of Charles Walter Reade, ygr brother of the 9th baronet?

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Henry,  thank you.  All of your hard work on this is very much appreciated.

Brooke

[marquess]

I happily second Brooke's sentiment. Thank you for the hard work.