Viscount St.Davids

[Leigh Rayment]

According to a notice in today's "Times" the 3rd Viscount St.Davids (who was also Lord Hungerford, Moleyns and Strange de Knockin) died on 26 April.

[Michael Rhodes]

The 3rd Viscount St Davids died 26 April, 2009, aged 70. His
viscountcy, cr 1918, was but one of a string of impressive peerages
and a baronetcy, viz: 3rd Viscount St Davids, of Lydstep Haven in the
County of Pembroke (United Kingdom, let. pat. 17 Jun 1918); 16th Baron
Strange of Knokyn (England, writ sum. 29 Dec 1299); 24th Baron
Hungerford (England, writ sum. 7 Jan 1425/6); 22nd Baron de Moleyns
(England, writ sum. 13 Jan 1444/5); 3rd Baron St Davids, of Roch
Castle in the County of Pembroke (United Kingdom, let. pat. 6 Jul
1908); 15th Baronet, styled "of Picton, co. Pembroke" (England, let.
pat. 9 Nov 1621). He was born Colwyn Jestyn John Phillipps, 30 Jan
1939, son of the 2nd Viscount St Davids (b 19 Feb 1917; d 10 Jun
1991), by his wife the former Doreen Guinness Jowett (d 19 Oct 1956);
and was educated at Sevenoaks School; late 2nd Lieutenant, Welsh
Guards; Lord-in-Waiting (Government Whip) 1992-94; Deputy Speaker
House of Lords 1995-99.

He married 1965, Augusta Victoria Correa Larrain, dau of Don
Estantislao Correa Ugarte, of Santiago, Chile, by whom he had issue,
two sons, (i) Hon Rhodri Colwyn Philipps (b. 16 Sep 1966), mar. 6 Sep
2003 Sarah Louise Colyn Butcher, only dau. of Dr Peter Butcher; & (ii)
Hon Roland Augusto Jestyn Estantislao Philipps (b. 9 Apr 1970).

The elder son now succeeds to the peerages and the baronetcy.

His Funeral will be held in St Davids Cathedral on Wednesday 6 May.

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[Shinjinee]

Doesn't the new Viscount have a chequered history?

Shinjinee

On May 2, 12:22 pm, Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

[marquess]

Yeah there was something about him ruining a company in Germany! Isn't
this viscountcy in danger as there are no male heirs apart from the
two sons who have produced no sons so far?

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[Phoen]

Yes, he received a two-year suspended sentence for it in Gernany in
2008 -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1581780/Rhodri-Colwyn-Philipps-squanders-firms-cash.html

[bx...@yahoo.com]

The younger son, Hon. Roland Augusto Jestyn Estanislao, b. 1970 is the
heir presumptive. He is divorced with 2 daughters per DB's 2008.

Since the brother is the only one currently in remainder to the
viscountcy, let's hope the new Viscount and his wife produce an heir
soon.

Brooke

On May 2, 3:22�am, Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

[Shinjinee]

An update from Mandrake in the Daily Telegraph 3 May 2009

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/5268308/Nigella-Lawsons-cooking-not-to-familys-taste.html

Troubled times for new Viscount

Viscount St Davids, a former deputy speaker in the Lords and
descendant of Richard the Lionheart, has died aged 70. The peer, whose
funeral will be held on Wednesday in St David's Cathedral, will be
succeeded by his 42-year-old son, Rhodri Philipps.

The new 4th Viscount St Davids, a polo-playing chum of Jodie Kidd, is
currently appealing against a two-year suspended sentence imposed upon
him in Germany last September after the collapse of his engineering
firm Hans Brochier.

Philipps spent more than a year in prison in Nuremberg while claims
that he used company funds – more than £350,000 on promoting an opera
singer, £12,000 to rent a private jet and £5,000 on a shotgun from
James Purdey – were investigated.

His brother, Roland, 39, is a blues guitarist who uses the stage name
Todd Sharpville.

On May 2, 4:44 pm, Phoen <Phoen...@gmx.li> wrote:
> Yes, he received a two-year suspended sentence for it in Gernany in
> 2008 -
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> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1581780/Rhodri-Colwyn-Phili...

[Michael Rhodes]

> Viscount St Davids, a former deputy speaker in the Lords and
> descendant of Richard the Lionheart, has died aged 70.

Descendant of Richard the Lionheart ??

[marquess]

That is the trouble with those baronies that have been in abeyance for
centuries, and go through the female line. As David Williamson once
said, if you go back far enough you can trace anybody to almost
anybody!

On 5 May, 08:02, Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

[Michael Rhodes]

On 6 May, 01:58, marquess <marquessmarqu...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> That is the trouble with those baronies that have been in abeyance for
> centuries, and go through the female line. As David Williamson once
> said, if you go back far enough you can trace anybody to almost
> anybody!

Did Richard the Lionheart leave ANY descendants ?

[Dennis Cunniff]

There was one purported bastard son, Philip of Cognac. Philip's first
wife d.s.p., and I don't believe Philip left descendants of any
description.

So I'd say Viscount St Davids's "descent from Richard the Lionheart"
was problematic :).

- Dennis J. Cunniff.

[sarac...@googlemail.com]

Yes,I noted that too,and I was about to comment on it,but just like
Baron John Bonde's earlier 'debatable' Jacobite peerage attainder,it
seems a regular lack of historical research now abounds among Daily
Telegraph obit writers!

[Richard R]

There's a complete lack of any corroborating evidence for the contents
of many of the obits in the broadsheets these days, as regular
postings to this site can testify!

On 6 May, 12:42, "saracen9...@googlemail.com"

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[Richard R]

A very full obit in today's Times:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/obituaries/article6268640.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1

The late viscount is quoted on his ancestry and titles:
An imposing, authoritative figure, of impressive build, demeanour and
enthusiasm, he is remembered by friends as a Boy’s Own adventurer. His
grandfather was elevated by Lloyd George, and although the succession
gave Philipps the political opportunity to help his beloved Wales, he
was prouder of the more ancient titles his family enjoyed. His
ancestors did not come over with William the Conqueror: they were
already here. He once wrote with great pride: “My family is of great
antiquity in West Wales. Its origins can be traced back to about 1050.
Members of the family own, through trusts, Manorbier Castle, Pembroke
Castle and Picton Castle. I also hold the baronies of Strange of
Knokin 1299, Hungerford 1425, de Moleyns 1445 and the Baronetcy of
Picton 1621.” ....

And a landmark mass: 'A requiem Mass was held in St David’s Cathedral,
Pembrokeshire, is thought to be the first Roman Catholic Mass to be
celebrated there since the Reformation'

On 6 May, 13:03, Richard R <r_rut...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> There's a complete lack of any corroborating evidence for the contents
> of many of the obits in the broadsheets these days, as regular
> postings to this site can testify!
>
> On 6 May, 12:42, "saracen9...@googlemail.com"
>
>
>
> <saracen9...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Yes,I noted that too,and I was about to comment on it,but just like
> > Baron John Bonde's earlier 'debatable' Jacobite peerage attainder,it
> > seems a regular lack of historical research now abounds among Daily
> > Telegraph obit writers!
>
> > On 6 May, 03:21, Dennis Cunniff <dcunn...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>
> > > On May 5, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Michael Rhodes wrote:
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> > > > On 6 May, 01:58, marquess <marquessmarqu...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >> That is the trouble with those baronies that have been in abeyance  
> > > >> for
> > > >> centuries, and go through the female line. As David Williamson once
> > > >> said, if you go back far enough you can trace anybody to almost
> > > >> anybody!
>
> > > > Did Richard the Lionheart leave ANY descendants ?
>
> > > There was one purported bastard son, Philip of Cognac. Philip's first  
> > > wife d.s.p., and I don't believe Philip left descendants of any  
> > > description.
>

> > > So I'd say ViscountStDavids's"descent from Richard the Lionheart"  

> > > was problematic :).
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[Michael Rhodes]

Obit of Viscount St Davids from the Daily Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/culture-obituaries/music-obituaries/5345739/Viscount-St-Davids.html

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