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Leigh Rayment

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Jun 6, 2008, 8:34:52 PM6/6/08
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I understand that the 3rd Baron Savile died on 2nd June. According to the 106th edition of Burke, the heir is his brother Henry Leoline Thornhill Lumley-Savile, but I note that he was born in 1923. Does anyone know if he is still alive, or whether the peerage now descends to Henry's son, John Anthony Thornhill Lumley-Savile?

marquess

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Jun 6, 2008, 9:14:20 PM6/6/08
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I thought that the brother was had died, and that the son b 1947 is
the heir then we have the triplets, James, Peter and Robin b 75, none
of the latter are married as far as I am aware, I hope that Brooke's
introspective of wisdom will correct me if I am wrong. The family
seats Walshaw and Gryce Hall are surrounded by 18,000 acres. I recall
editing the entry for the late peer for Debretts Distinguished People
of Today back in the late 80's and the mention of the acres. Of course
these were orginally Scarborogh acres. Looks like the whole Scarborogh
clan could be on its last generation. Unless of course the son b 47 is
married and has children and we didn't know about it.

Michael Rhodes

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Jun 6, 2008, 10:48:52 PM6/6/08
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The Hon Henry Lumley-Savile died 28 March, 2001.


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Phoen

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Jun 7, 2008, 4:43:19 AM6/7/08
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Obituary Evening Courier

http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/The-lord-of-Savile-Park.4161348.jp

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Phoen

On 7 Jun., 04:48, Michael Rhodes <migx73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
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marquess

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Jun 7, 2008, 5:28:22 AM6/7/08
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Thanks for that, I wonder who will now inherit the property with the
Nephew living in Cornwall? Does anyone know if he is married or
anything about him? Or is it all in trust for the triplets?

Michael Rhodes

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Jun 7, 2008, 6:01:32 AM6/7/08
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The last news on the family:-

The engagement was announced 20 November, 2004, between James George
Augustus Lumley-Savile (b. 1975), eldest triplet son of the late the
Hon Henry Lumley-Savile and of the Hon. Mrs Lumley-Savile, of
Walshaw,
Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire, and Stephanie Barba Mendoza, daughter
of
Dr and Mrs A. Barba Mendoza, of Uruapan, Mexico.

marquess

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Jun 7, 2008, 8:33:57 AM6/7/08
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I wonder if Brooke has any information from Debretts 2008 and for that
matter on the other brothers?

On 6 Jun, 22:01, Michael Rhodes <migx73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
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bx...@yahoo.com

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Jun 7, 2008, 1:12:25 PM6/7/08
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According to DB 2008, the heir presumptive (now the 4th Baron) is John
Anthony Thornhill Lumley-Savile. He is married but without issue.

The only one of his triplet half-brothers who is married is the new
heir presumptive, James George Augustus. He married Stephanie, da of
Dr. A. Barba Mendoza in 2005. They are without issue to date.

As the triplets are the only ones in remainder (and they turn 33 this
year), at least one of them better produce an heir or the title is
doomed!

Brooke
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Michael Rhodes

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Jun 9, 2008, 7:28:41 PM6/9/08
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The 3rd Baron Savile, landowner, died 2 June, 2008, at the age of 89.
George Halifax Lumley-Savile was born 24 January, 1919, the elder son
of the 2nd Baron Savile, KCVO (1853-1931), by his 2nd wife the former
Esmé Grace Virginia Wolton (d 1958), former wife of Capt Claude E
Levita, & only dau. of John Hyem Wolton. He succeeded to the peerage
(UK 1888) on the demise of his father, 1931; unmarried. He is
succeeded by his nephew, John Anthony Thornhill Savile (b. 10 Jan
1947).

A Thanksgiving Service takes place at Thornhill Parish Church, 17th
July 2008.

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Michael Rhodes

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Jun 10, 2008, 1:36:33 PM6/10/08
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Lord Savile's obituary at the Halifax Evening Courier:-


http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/The-lord-of-Savile-Park.4161348.jp

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Michael Rhodes

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Jun 15, 2008, 4:43:05 PM6/15/08
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LORD Savile, who has died aged 89, was in some respects one of the
last of the PG Wodehouse landed-gentry characters to inhabit the 21st
century.
Charmingly eccentric and every inch a gentleman, he veered off from
the Wodehouse stereotype in his love of classical music, being a
familiar sight at concerts.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/obituaries/Lord-Savile.4186005.jp

His younger brother Henry, who had died before him, was a gifted
musician.

George Halifax Lumley-Savile, the third Baron Savile of Rufford,
enjoyed grouse shooting, and as one of Calderdale's biggest
landowners, his antipathy to wind farms – he opposed having any on his
land – was significant.

As a hereditary peer, he took his duties in the Lords seriously, and
after the Lords reform which denied hereditary peers their seats, he
missed being able to attend the debates.

Despite a succession of one-sided affairs – for a time he was the
enthusiastic friend of Barbara Cartland's daughter Raine, later
Countess Spencer and stepmother of Princess Diana – he never married.

George enjoyed the company of younger people, and the Bloody Marys
served by his butler to those fortunate enough to be invited to Sunday
lunch at Gryce Hall, a late Elizabethan farm house near Huddersfield
which he bought after the war to serve as the family seat, were
reckoned to be the best in the region.

His early years were blighted by his parents' blatant preference for
his brother, making no secret to their friends that they regarded
Henry as a more suitable heir.

But when the Second Baron died in 1931, it was, of course, George who
inherited the title.

His mother sold the family mansion at Rufford Abbey, Nottinghamshire,
and with it most of its contents, including paintings and furniture
which had been accumulated by the family since it rose to prominence
in Calderdale in the 16th century.

The family held estates at Hebden Bridge, Rishworth, Thornhill and
Elland, and the lordships of the manors of Ovenden, Skircoat and
Elland – now sold.

In 1939 the family made Walshaw Lodge above Hebden Bridge their
permanent residence, Lady Savile having replaced the family heirlooms
with pictures and pieces in the latest fashion.

During the Second World War, George was a captain in the Duke of
Wellington's Regiment and was later attached to the 1st Battalion the
Lincolnshire Regiment, seeing service with it in Burma during the
campaigns of 1943 and 1944.

Settling down after the war at Gryce Hall, he was for many years a
magistrate in the Dewsbury area.

The Savile family's munificence has benefited Calderdale considerably.

In 1866, George's great-uncle, Captain Henry Savile of Rufford Abbey,
sold Skircoat Moor – then valued at about £40,000 – to Halifax
Corporation for the nominal sum of £100, on condition the corporation
took action to alleviate smoke pollution in the town.

In recognition of his generosity, the moor was renamed Savile Park.

Henry also gave large areas of Hardcastle Crags to the National Trust
in 1950, and in 1960 gave Popples Common and nearby moorland close to
Heptonstall to Hepton Rural District Council.

A devout Anglican, Lord Savile worshipped for over 60 years at Emley
Parish Church, of which he was patron.

He leaves his sister, the Hon. Deirdre Barbara Elland of Maryland,
USA, and his heir is his nephew, John Anthony Thornhill Lumley-Savile,
who lives in Cornwall.


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