Rt Hon Baron Deben PC, of Winston in the County of Suffolk cr LP (UK) 2010

[Richard R]

Lord Deben was introduced to the House on 21 June supported by his
brother, Lord Chadlington, and Lord Lloyd-Webber. He has followed his
brother’s example and chosen a georgraphical place rather than a
family name for his title.

John Selwyn GUMMER PC (1985) Born 26 Nov. 1939 son of Rev Canon Selwyn
Gummer (1907-99) and (Margaret) Sybille Vera MASON (1905-93); m 1977
Penelope Jane dau of John P GARDNER and has issue. Educ. King’s Sch.,
Rochester; Selwyn Coll., Cambridge (Exhibr) BA Hons History 1961; MA
1971.
Career: MP (C) Lewisham W, 1970–Feb. 1974, Eye, Suffolk, 1979–83 and
Suffolk Coastal 1983-2010. PPS to Minister of Agriculture, 1972; Vice-
Chm. Conservative Party, 1972–74; Asst Govt Whip, 1981; a Lord Comr of
HM Treasury, 1981–83; Parly Under-Sec. of State for Employment, Jan.–
Oct. 1983; Minister of State, Dept of Employment, 1983–84; Paymaster-
Gen., 1984–85; Chm., Cons. Party, 1983–85; Minister of State: MAFF,
1985–88; DoE, 1988–89; Minister of Agric., Fisheries and Food, 1989–
93; Sec. of State for the Envmt, 1993–97. Chairman: Cons. Gp for
Europe, 1997–2000; Marine Stewardship Council, 1998–2005; Quality of
Life Commn, 2007–08. Chairman: Sancroft Internat. Ltd, 1997–; Valpak
Ltd, 1998–; Assoc. of Ind. Financial Advrs, 2003–; Veolia Water UK
(formerly General Utilities Ltd), 2004– (Dir, 1997–); non-executive
Director: Sovereign Pensions, 2004–; Sistema-Hals, 2007–. Mem., Gen.
Synod of the Church of England, 1979–92; joined Roman Catholic Church,
1993. Publications: (jtly) When the Coloured People Come, 1966; The
Permissive Society, 1971; (with L. W. Cowie) The Christian Calendar,
1974; (contrib.) To Church with Enthusiasm, 1969; (contrib.) Faith In
Politics, 1987; Christianity and Conservatism, 1990. Address: House of
Lords

SONS LIVING
Hon Benedict (Ben) Michael b 1978. MP for Ipswich since May 2010
Hon Felix John b 1981

DAUGHTERS LIVING
Hon Leonora Cicely b 1982
Hon Cordelia Charlotte b 1986

[Turenne]

Neither of the Gummer brothers seem to have liked their surname much.
Neither has incorporated it ino their title.

Richard L

[Michael Rhodes]

I have vivid recopllections of the then Mr Gummer
when Min of Agric feeding his daughter with a beefburger during the
brouhaha
over the BSE crisis.

[Richard R]

I get the impression a place is smarter than using your own name and
can often have family or other associations which are a strong pull.
EG Robin Leigh-Pemberton's use of KINGSDOWN, in honour of a Victorian
ancestor who took that name for his barony.

On Jun 24, 9:37 am, Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
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[Turenne]

On 24 June, 13:15, Richard R <r_rut...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I get the impression a place is smarter than using your own name and
> can often have family or other associations which are a strong pull.
> EG Robin Leigh-Pemberton's use of KINGSDOWN, in honour of a Victorian
> ancestor who took that name for his barony.

You're right, though I doubt whether either Gummer title refers to an
earlier peerage. One thing to note though, is that the Gummers both
went to Selwyn College, Cambridge and that their father's name
was....Selwyn Gummer.

I wonder how Peter Gummer chose the designation 'Deben'? His estate is
in Debenham. Maybe he doesn't want to be confused with the shop!

Richard

[Richard R]

Yes interesting. He'll have taken the advice of Garter of course,
maybe he cautioned him not to take a title too close to Debenham &
Freebody!

[Turenne]

On 24 June, 17:00, Richard R <r_rut...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > I wonder how Peter Gummer chose the designation 'Deben'? His estate is
> > in Debenham. Maybe he doesn't want to be confused with the shop!
>

A friend reliably informs me that the 'Deben' is a river which flows
through his old constituency.

Richard L

[Turenne]

On 25 June, 09:38, Turenne <rick.lich...@virgin.net> wrote:

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> A friend reliably informs me that the 'Deben' is a river which flows
> through his old constituency.
>

Sorry. That's Gummer's constiuency, not my friend's.

RL

[Nick Kingsley]

Deben is the name of the river there; maybe he's a fisherman!

Nick

Richard

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[Nick Kingsley]

An obituary in The Scotsman yesterday for the late Patrick Cadell, formerly
Keeper of the Records of Scotland:
http://news.scotsman.com/obituaries/Obituary-Patrick-Cadell-CBE.6383540.jp

He was the younger son of son of Col HM Cadell of Grange, OBE, of that BLG
family.

Nick Kingsley

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Gummer is the married name of Meryl Streep.

She doesn't use that surname either!

Brooke

[Turenne]

On 8 July, 16:11, "b...@yahoo.com" <b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> She doesn't use that surname either!
>

It's also (nearly) Judy Garland's real name! (Frances Ethel Gumm).

Richard